Schiano's sons

[NewJerseyGuy]

Technically no one on the staff contributes anything to winning games unless you count Howard as a win

Yes. We are 1-0 in the Howard season!

 

[PSU_Nut]

Like many coaches (Harbaugh as an example), the new era of data/metrics has taken the human element out of sports. Baseball is a great example. The entire sport is metric driven. You don't even need a manager anymore. In Schiano's quest to become a better coach, he's gone completely down a rabbit hole, which has lead to more losing.

There is a place for analytics in sport, but not when it defies what you are seeing with your own eyes.

Black jack is a perfect example of this concept. Schaino is the black jack player who plays by the rules no matter what. He refuses to adapt because that what the "rules" say. A great black jack player (card counter) is aware of the rules but knows when to deviate from them. When the count is high they deviate from the analytics and are able to take advantage when the deck is stacked in his favor.

 

[vkj91]

But but but they’re cheap!!! And they volunteered for 3 years.

I can’t imagine living in my parent’s basement 3 years removed from college. Asking mom and dad for $100 so I can take some girl out on a date. All because I’m volunteering rather than earning a paycheck. Talk about the definition of entitlement and nepobaby.

I don’t know if his sons are good coaches. Will be good coaches or will become great coaches but you just described the life of basically every GA coach. As well as, a large number of young HS coaches.

 

[kupuna133]

I don’t know if his sons are good coaches. Will be good coaches or will become great coaches but you just described the life of basically every GA coach. As well as, a large number of young HS coaches.

Exactly why I said multiple times in this thread and others. Very few coaches will bring their sons/relatives in without them getting experience other places. It’s not good for optics. Pick up the phone and get them experience other places. And “volunteer GA” went away many years ago. If they were GA it would have been mentioned. It wasn’t.
So young high school coaches now delay a paying career to work 16-18 hrs/day for daddy for free?

Also there are very specific rules for GA’s. Which obviously the sons were not;


NCAA Rules and Requirements

• Education Requirement: Must be enrolled in at least 50% of a regular graduate program (except potentially during a final graduating term).
• Timeline Limit: Generally limited to 2 years of service, though a 3rd year may be granted under specific credit-completion rules.
• Eligibility Window: Must have received their first bachelor's degree or exhausted their playing eligibility within the last 7 years
• Education and Work Mix: GAs balance full-time or part-time graduate studies with heavy hours supporting the football program.
• Compensation: Instead of a full coaching salary, GAs typically receive a monthly stipend, health insurance, and a tuition waiver or credit.

 

[vkj91]

Exactly why I said multiple times in this thread and others. Very few coaches will bring their sons/relatives in without them getting experience other places. It’s not good for optics. Pick up the phone and get them experience other places. And “volunteer GA” went away many years ago. If they were GA it would have been mentioned. It wasn’t.
So young high school coaches now delay a paying career to work 16-18 hrs/day for daddy for free?

Also there are very specific rules for GA’s. Which obviously the sons were not;


NCAA Rules and Requirements

• Education Requirement: Must be enrolled in at least 50% of a regular graduate program (except potentially during a final graduating term).
• Timeline Limit: Generally limited to 2 years of service, though a 3rd year may be granted under specific credit-completion rules.
• Eligibility Window: Must have received their first bachelor's degree or exhausted their playing eligibility within the last 7 years
• Education and Work Mix: GAs balance full-time or part-time graduate studies with heavy hours supporting the football program.
• Compensation: Instead of a full coaching salary, GAs typically receive a monthly stipend, health insurance, and a tuition waiver or credit.

I don’t know what else you wrote in this thread. I was responding to this

I can’t imagine living in my parent’s basement 3 years removed from college. Asking mom and dad for $100 so I can take some girl out on a date. All because I’m volunteering rather than earning a paycheck. Talk about the definition of entitlement and nepobaby.

yes, that is the lifestyle many young coaches lead

 

[kupuna133]

I don’t know what else you wrote in this thread. I was responding to this

I can’t imagine living in my parent’s basement 3 years removed from college. Asking mom and dad for $100 so I can take some girl out on a date. All because I’m volunteering rather than earning a paycheck. Talk about the definition of entitlement and nepobaby.

yes, that is the lifestyle many young coaches lead

I coached. Had many friends that pursued the lifestyle as a career. I can tell you personally none of us lived in our parents basements, asked mom for $100 and delayed a paying job. We all worked and then coached. Or they went the “GA” route as a full time career. What you describe is definitely not the norm.

 

[vkj91]

I coached. Had many friends that pursued the lifestyle as a career. I can tell you personally none of us lived in our parents basements, asked mom for $100 and delayed a paying job. We all worked and then coached. Or they went the “GA” route as a full time career. What you describe is definitely not the norm.

“Coached” “pursued”. Maybe the fact you all pursued paying gigs first is why
And yes, most don’t live in their parents basement because they don’t coach close to home. They are busy sleeping in an office at their school.

 

[kupuna133]

“Coached” “pursued”. Maybe the fact you all pursued paying gigs first is why
And yes, most don’t live in their parents basement because they don’t coach close to home. They are busy sleeping in an office at their school.

Exactly. That was the point from the get go. This wouldn’t be a conversation if Greg and his sons did what most of the coaching world does and go away to another persons staff to “volunteer.” We didn’t have daddy paying for our “volunteer” lifestyle. Yea I coached after college. Wasn’t trying to make a career out of it. But I was also working 60+ hours a week in finance, bartending and paying my own way. Very much like the dozens of buddies and relatives over the years. Many are still coaching. Couple made careers of it.

 

[PessimisticallyHopefulPragmatist]

Aside from his kids, I don't understand why the staff is so large. And some of the titles are head-scratchers.

 

[kupuna133]

Aside from his kids, I don't understand why the staff is so large. And some of the titles are head-scratchers.

Been discussing this fact for 3-4 years.

 

[Fat Koko]

Been discussing this fact for 3-4 years.

I brought the Rutgers football spending situation to TKR’s attention 3.5 years ago soon after I signed up for TKR.

Posters criticized me, stating nobody cares how much Rutgers spends on sports. Many wrongly stated Rutgers accounting was more conservative than other schools, without exception failing to provide evidence.

On my math, Rutgers football was close to break even in 2022 and 2023, after allocating most of the B1G media rights revenue to football. Move to ahead 2024 and 2025 - football losses of roughly $10 million each year. Why? Extraordinary spending increases that corresponded with - and perhaps caused - deteriorating on-the-field results.

Now, Rutgers athletics is stuck in a quagmire caused by the spending problems i identified and others dismissed. The football program needs a reset but absurd financial practices allowed by incompetent leadership during the 2.0 era could prevent a change from happening, forcing Rutgers to tolerate unacceptable conditions for at least a few more years.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Aside from his kids, I don't understand why the staff is so large. And some of the titles are head-scratchers.

Because he's a lunatic who overthinks everything that he overthinks.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I brought the Rutgers football spending situation to TKR’s attention 3.5 years ago soon after I signed up for TKR.

Posters criticized me, stating nobody cares how much Rutgers spends on sports. Many wrongly stated Rutgers accounting was more conservative than other schools, without exception failing to provide evidence.

On my math, Rutgers football was close to break even in 2022 and 2023, after allocating most of the B1G media rights revenue to football. Move to ahead 2024 and 2025 - football losses of roughly $10 million each year. Why? Extraordinary spending increases that corresponded with - and perhaps caused - deteriorating on-the-field results.

Now, Rutgers athletics is stuck in a quagmire caused by the spending problems i identified and others dismissed. The football program needs a reset but absurd financial practices allowed by incompetent leadership during the 2.0 era could prevent a change from happening, forcing Rutgers to tolerate unacceptable conditions for at least a few more years.

Yeah, you're the first person to EVER discuss "spending" on these boards lol....sure....and you get criticized because you bring it up incessantly and inject it into conversations where, most of the time, there's ZERO need to do so. Kinda like you have....what's that thing called.....

....an AGENDA!!!

 

[kupuna133]

I brought the Rutgers football spending situation to TKR’s attention 3.5 years ago soon after I signed up for TKR.

Posters criticized me, stating nobody cares how much Rutgers spends on sports. Many wrongly stated Rutgers accounting was more conservative than other schools, without exception failing to provide evidence.

On my math, Rutgers football was close to break even in 2022 and 2023, after allocating most of the B1G media rights revenue to football. Move to ahead 2024 and 2025 - football losses of roughly $10 million each year. Why? Extraordinary spending increases that corresponded with - and perhaps caused - deteriorating on-the-field results.

Now, Rutgers athletics is stuck in a quagmire caused by the spending problems i identified and others dismissed. The football program needs a reset but absurd financial practices allowed by incompetent leadership during the 2.0 era could prevent a change from happening, forcing Rutgers to tolerate unacceptable conditions for at least a few more years.

Yep. You got a helluva lot more granular than I. I saw the expansion of staff going back to 2022-23. Spoke to a friend that is on the “inside”. He told me and another friend, the staff is/was much larger than what was posted on the website. At the time I want to say it grew from a listed staff of 35-40 to 75-80. Now it is well north of 110.

 

[RUAldo]

I know i’m a broken record…if you want to force out Schiano and negotiate a reasonable exit you start by firing his sons immediately and any assistant that has no meaningful role. You make a statement that Greg’s ego could never accept. He brought this upon himself by creating a bloated, waste of taxpayer money, circus of a coaching staff.

 

[Section124]

Aside from his kids, I don't understand why the staff is so large. And some of the titles are head-scratchers.

Al says we need more resources to recruit. Definitely not working so the can probably cut 75% of the coaching staff now. 100% after the season.

 

[Jtung230]

But but but they’re cheap!!! And they volunteered for 3 years.

I can’t imagine living in my parent’s basement 3 years removed from college. Asking mom and dad for $100 so I can take some girl out on a date. All because I’m volunteering rather than earning a paycheck. Talk about the definition of entitlement and nepobaby.

Nebo is in right now. its not just football.

 

[LotusAggressor_rivals]

Al says we need more resources to recruit. Definitely not working so the can probably cut 75% of the coaching staff now. 100% after the season.

Recruiting is easier when you win. No amount of resources is going to help when you're get run out of your own stadium in a paycheck game by a team that was winless the previous season. Or lose to a bottom feeding ACC team with a D2 QB.

 

[Knight Shift]

Al says we need more resources to recruit. Definitely not working so the can probably cut 75% of the coaching staff now. 100% after the season.

There is a travel fund donor group that pays for private planes and helicopters and other travel expenses

 

[Jtung230]

Recruiting is easier when you win. No amount of resources is going to help when you're get run out of your own stadium in a paycheck game by a team that was winless the previous season. Or lose to a bottom feeding ACC team with a D2 QB.

Indiana says hello