Schiano's sons

kupuna133

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His sons get a lot of play here but they are irrelevant. If the team was winning no one would care. The are making a pittance.
It’s less about what they are being paid and more that they are skirting the nepotism clauses. If you have one relative on staff with appropriate credentials. You can excuse it. When you have 3 with zero experience. There’s an issue. Regardless of what they’re paid. And then excusing it away with saying they don’t report to you is next level. When you have to state that they volunteered and work 16-18 hrs/ day basically shows that you know you’re wrong.
 

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It’s less about what they are being paid and more that they are skirting the nepotism clauses. If you have one relative on staff with appropriate credentials. You can excuse it. When you have 3 with zero experience. There’s an issue. Regardless of what they’re paid. And then excusing it away with saying they don’t report to you is next level. When you have to state that they volunteered and work 16-18 hrs/ day basically shows that you know you’re wrong.
Perhaps one is legitimately qualified and talented to be on the staff, but hiring all 3 reeks of mindless nepotism.
 

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Perhaps one is legitimately qualified and talented to be on the staff, but hiring all 3 reeks of mindless nepotism.
This is exactly why multiple coaches are on record as to why they don’t hire their children. They send them away to learn the “business” other places. Once they get skills then maybe they can come home. But not first gig. Beamer, Ferentz, Paterno etc… all in record saying as such. Good friends father was a D1 AD. He wouldn’t even let his son take a position in the same conference. Shipped him off to Iowa for his first gig.

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even the comparisons that the article point to shows this is not the norm.
Whittinghams son had 8 years NFL experience before joining him at Michigan
his Brother had professional playing experience
Ferentz so played in the NFL and coached there for 3 years. Ferentz is on record saying. He wouldn’t hire him without learning how other do it. He knew how they coached and played at Iowa. He needed to see another perspective.
Harbaugh son coached 3 years D1 and 3 years NFL prior to joining him at Michigan.
 
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let’s be very clear that, while might make fun of it once in a while, I couldn’t care less that his sons are on the staff so long as they’re getting paid appropriately for what they do.

NOW….Why does somebody who played the game at the collegiate level and coached for 30 years now at both the collegiate and professional levels, need someone following them around with a book of what to do when?

That tells me so much about so many things. Enough.
 

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let’s be very clear that, while might make fun of it once in a while, I couldn’t care less that his sons are on the staff so long as they’re getting paid appropriately for what they do.

NOW….Why does somebody who played the game at the collegiate level and coached for 30 years now at both the collegiate and professional levels, need someone following them around with a book of what to do when?

That tells me so much about so many things. Enough.

Like many coaches (Harbaugh as an example), the new era of data/metrics has taken the human element out of sports. Baseball is a great example. The entire sport is metric driven. You don't even need a manager anymore. In Schiano's quest to become a better coach, he's gone completely down a rabbit hole, which has lead to more losing.

There is a place for analytics in sport, but not when it defies what you are seeing with your own eyes.
 

kupuna133

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Like many coaches (Harbaugh as an example), the new era of data/metrics has taken the human element out of sports. Baseball is a great example. The entire sport is metric driven. You don't even need a manager anymore. In Schiano's quest to become a better coach, he's gone completely down a rabbit hole, which has lead to more losing.

There is a place for analytics in sport, but not when it defies what you are seeing with your own eyes.
Agree 100%. Especially your last paragraph. Schiano is living proof of paralysis from analysis. He doesn’t know what he is looking at anymore. Drunk with data. No feel.
 

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Like many coaches (Harbaugh as an example), the new era of data/metrics has taken the human element out of sports. Baseball is a great example. The entire sport is metric driven. You don't even need a manager anymore. In Schiano's quest to become a better coach, he's gone completely down a rabbit hole, which has lead to more losing.

There is a place for analytics in sport, but not when it defies what you are seeing with your own eyes.
+1
Great post.
 

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Like many coaches (Harbaugh as an example), the new era of data/metrics has taken the human element out of sports. Baseball is a great example. The entire sport is metric driven. You don't even need a manager anymore. In Schiano's quest to become a better coach, he's gone completely down a rabbit hole, which has lead to more losing.

There is a place for analytics in sport, but not when it defies what you are seeing with your own eyes.
+1

It’s like HoF voting…you are or you’re not.
 
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AreYouNUTS

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Like many coaches (Harbaugh as an example), the new era of data/metrics has taken the human element out of sports. Baseball is a great example. The entire sport is metric driven. You don't even need a manager anymore. In Schiano's quest to become a better coach, he's gone completely down a rabbit hole, which has lead to more losing.

There is a place for analytics in sport, but not when it defies what you are seeing with your own eyes.
This is exactly my thought process here; You absolutely nailed it. He overthinks everything, exponentially, to the point where it’s a defeatist way of coaching.
 

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Like many coaches (Harbaugh as an example), the new era of data/metrics has taken the human element out of sports. Baseball is a great example. The entire sport is metric driven. You don't even need a manager anymore. In Schiano's quest to become a better coach, he's gone completely down a rabbit hole, which has lead to more losing.

There is a place for analytics in sport, but not when it defies what you are seeing with your own eyes.

Indeed, Google AI said GS had Dremel letting punts bounce because ANALytics said catching them was risky. Schiano isn't dumb - just weird
 

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It’s less about what they are being paid and more that they are skirting the nepotism clauses. If you have one relative on staff with appropriate credentials. You can excuse it. When you have 3 with zero experience. There’s an issue. Regardless of what they’re paid. And then excusing it away with saying they don’t report to you is next level. When you have to state that they volunteered and work 16-18 hrs/ day basically shows that you know you’re wrong.
they shouldn't be anywhere near the program and these articles speak volumes

Greg is toast
 
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What do analytics say about calling a timeout to ice the kicker on a 58 yard attempt into a 20 mph wind? Or tackling a receiver on a catch and run so he doesn't score a TD with no time left on the clock? Or trying to run the ball without blocking anybody?
 
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What do analytics say about calling a timeout to ice the kicker on a 58 yard attempt into a 20 mph wind? Or tackling a receiver on a catch and run so he doesn't score a TD with no time left on the clock? Or trying to run the ball without blocking anybody?
Duhhh. Thats all analytics. He actually admitted that and used as the excuse.
 
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Caliknight

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Duhhh. Thats all analytics. He actually admitted that and used as the excuse.
Not only did he call the TO, but he did it late allowing Bielema to see the kick had zero chance and promptly ran the offense back out.

He did the dumbest thing you could do in calling a TO, then did something dumber allowing them to actually get a practice kick in.

If there was any doubt he was a football moron before that, there sure wasn't after that. He gifted Bielema a win on a platter. Instead of him being the idiot for trying that kick, Schiano one upped his idiocy.
 

kupuna133

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Not only did he call the TO, but he did it late allowing Bielema to see the kick had zero chance and promptly ran the offense back out.

He did the dumbest thing you could do in calling a TO, then did something dumber allowing them to actually get a practice kick in.

If there was any doubt he was a football moron before that, there sure wasn't after that. He gifted Bielema a win on a platter. Instead of him being the idiot for trying that kick, Schiano one upped his idiocy.
Then tripled down and played a soft zone with 15 yard cushions on the receivers. Gifting minimum first down.

 

RUTGERS95

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if they can find any email or someone to admit that Greg influences their reviews etc, then we can get out of the buyout
 

kupuna133

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That's 0.33333333333 wins per son. That is violently inadequate.
But but but they’re cheap!!! And they volunteered for 3 years.

I can’t imagine living in my parent’s basement 3 years removed from college. Asking mom and dad for $100 so I can take some girl out on a date. All because I’m volunteering rather than earning a paycheck. Talk about the definition of entitlement and nepobaby.
 
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