Demarcus Henry

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Going back to when? Last year? He’s easily in the high 30’s, lower 40’s on 5 stars, going back to when he was first hired.

BTW, Pope has never landed a player who was a 5 star when they arrived in Lexington… Not Jasper Johnson, not Moreno, and not Ryan Hampton… So Pope is technically 0-40 something signing a 5 star player!

A stat that will last longer than UK’s home winning streak record, and a stat that will make Mark Pope go down as the worst recruiter at a top 10 historical program, in the history of college sports!
Rivals has 14 five stars in each of the last 2 recruiting classes. So if pope recruiting every 5 star in the '25 and '26 recruiting classes and missed he would still only be 0 for 28, but don't let facts get in the way....I guess you could include the '24 class but most of those 5 stars were committed before pope was hired
 
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JwUKFan11

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Rivals has 14 five stars in each of the last 2 recruiting classes. So if pope recruiting every 5 star in the '25 and '26 recruiting classes and missed he would still only be 0 for 28, but don't let facts get in the way....I guess you could include the '24 class but most of those 5 stars were committed before pope was hired
Wow man what an idiot that guy is! Pope is only 0 for 28 or 0 for 42 if you count that first year. Man that guy was way off, thanks for correcting him!
 

UKFootball78

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Wow man what an idiot that guy is! Pope is only 0 for 28 or 0 for 42 if you count that first year. Man that guy was way off, thanks for correcting him!
Wow man...so you are saying he recruited all 28 5vstars the last 2 years and all 14 the year before...when most were already committed to others schools before he even got the UK to start recruiting them. Wow man, what an idiot...Use your damn head man and stop letting your hate blind you
 

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Demarcus Henry thoughts:
-I don’t expect to get him
-NFL super agent David Mulugheta represents him…he will get PAID. Probably a 5M type number if I had to guess
-I’m not fully convinced our 6M man will actually leave this year at his position.


If I were Pope, I’d lock up a big this fall signing period then let the chips fall where they may. He’s sinking or swimming with the dudes on the roster today. Most of which can and probably should return if things go well.
 
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JwUKFan11

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Wow man...so you are saying he recruited all 28 5vstars the last 2 years and all 14 the year before...when most were already committed to others schools before he even got the UK to start recruiting them. Wow man, what an idiot...Use your damn head man and stop letting your hate blind you
I would hope he is considering that he hasn't gotten a single one. What is the argument that you are even trying to make? That it isn't as bad as it seems because he only recruits 10 of the top 14? He clearly cannot get top HS players to come here and has also struggled to consistently land the big fish in the portal. Milan is the only one. Attempting to argue that this guy can recruit, or will eventually, is just insanity.
 

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number 2 player in the class? Yeah nah he ain't coming here. Not anymore. We used to get those guys but not anymore. He will visit, they all visit to pump up the asking price. But don't get your hopes up over these types of kids. This isn't 2015.
 
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UKFootball78

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I would hope he is considering that he hasn't gotten a single one. What is the argument that you are even trying to make? That it isn't as bad as it seems because he only recruits 10 of the top 14? He clearly cannot get top HS players to come here and has also struggled to consistently land the big fish in the portal. Milan is the only one. Attempting to argue that this guy can recruit, or will eventually, is just insanity.
I was pointing out that the numbers were exaggerated. Pretty obvious what I was doing. And yes, the actual numbers, whatever they may be, still aren't good. That also, is pretty obvious. So many posters on here just throw out random exaggerated numbers to prove their opinions and facts be damned. Then the posters that support that poster's opinion run with those exaggerated numbers as if they were fact.
 

VC99

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number 2 player in the class? Yeah nah he ain't coming here. Not anymore. We used to get those guys but not anymore. He will visit, they all visit to pump up the asking price. But don't get your hopes up over these types of kids. This isn't 2015.
The fact that we still get visits and are in the top 5 for literally every kid, despite the fact none of them want to play for Pope, proves Kentucky is the brand.

If Pope was at Arkansas they wouldn't even entertain it or have Arkansas in their top 50.
 

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Demarcus Henry thoughts:
-I don’t expect to get him
-NFL super agent David Mulugheta represents him…he will get PAID. Probably a 5M type number if I had to guess
-I’m not fully convinced our 6M man will actually leave this year at his position.


If I were Pope, I’d lock up a big this fall signing period then let the chips fall where they may. He’s sinking or swimming with the dudes on the roster today. Most of which can and probably should return if things go well.
Great calls.

These last 5-6 kids have a ton of leverage and are playing the market. Suppply & Demand.

Henry is Cal's. He probably told him to go see what he could get and circle back, Cal has an offer out and donor's ready if he needs to sweeten.

As it's playing out, not sure Cal is getting as big a class as he thought. He might only get two top kids. He's got to get one of Black or Daughtry, priority and then I'd think second slot reserved for Henry. He's probably just seeing how the $$ shakes out.
 

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The fact that we still get visits and are in the top 5 for literally every kid, despite the fact none of them want to play for Pope, proves Kentucky is the brand.

If Pope was at Arkansas they wouldn't even entertain it or have Arkansas in their top 50.
I think it proves that our NIL offers are high end and that is backed by data. Other programs cringe when someone visits UK because they know the asking price just went up. Agents are using us as leverage.
 

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I think it proves that our NIL offers are high end and that is backed by data. Other programs cringe when someone visits UK because they know the asking price just went up. Agents are using us as leverage.
Let's see how it plays out. Rosser & Henry either leveraging up, or maybe take the deepest.

I'd love to know how much these kids are willing to forego by going elsewhere. If it's 7 figures, that really says something.
 

JwUKFan11

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I was pointing out that the numbers were exaggerated. Pretty obvious what I was doing. And yes, the actual numbers, whatever they may be, still aren't good. That also, is pretty obvious. So many posters on here just throw out random exaggerated numbers to prove their opinions and facts be damned. Then the posters that support that poster's opinion run with those exaggerated numbers as if they were fact.
They weren’t exaggerated. He’s been here 3 years and your count was 42 5 stars. This nonsense that he gets a pass for year one is just dumb. If he could recruit he would have had a 5 star committed to BYU and then brought him here. But guess what he can’t.
 

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Most think Henry will chose between Arkansas and Louisville. UK on the outside looking in on another recruit.
Word is that Henry doesn't like Black, so might not want Arkansas if he goes. Cal has been prioritizing Black as his Smith replacement and lead guard. That makes things interesting.
 
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UKFootball78

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They weren’t exaggerated. He’s been here 3 years and your count was 42 5 stars. This nonsense that he gets a pass for year one is just dumb. If he could recruit he would have had a 5 star committed to BYU and then brought him here. But guess what he can’t.
So mark pope being hired on April 12, 2024 when almost everyone was already committed isn't an excuse...are you dense. How many 5stars were even available at that point. Not many,but not looking it up. Then you incorrectly assume he tried to recruit every 5star in the 2 following classes. Sorry if you don't understand, but I can't fix stupid. That's you by the way, since you clearly lack the ability to think logically.
 

JwUKFan11

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So mark pope being hired on April 12, 2024 when almost everyone was already committed isn't an excuse...are you dense. How many 5stars were even available at that point. Not many,but not looking it up. Then you incorrectly assume he tried to recruit every 5star in the 2 following classes. Sorry if you don't understand, but I can't fix stupid. That's you by the way, since you clearly lack the ability to think logically.
How many 5 stars has he ever gotten? I seem to remember when Cal came here, he pulled a few from Memphis.

If you want to make your bed on a complete lie that Pope can recruit you, you might be the dumbest human on the planet.
 

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From what I've heard, Williams and Rippey are both pissed they're not starting. It sounds like Scheyer blew some BS with this class, so not sure how repeatable this is. I think he's getting desperate and now lying to get as many insurance policies on the roster as he can.
I would far rather have that problem. Sigh.
 

Feral Manatee

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I've wondered if Pope gets way too in the weeds with analytic talk when dealing with recruits. They just want to know how will you use them, how will you prepare them for the next level, and how much will you pay. I do think he needs to go away from the Musselman approach of getting involved with just about every recruit, that seems like easy ammo for opposing schools to use against him.
I just think he's dorky as **** and can't relate to these kids. I say that with love for the man. I'm going into this season hoping for the best and open (my fervent hope) to being proven wrong. But I don't believe that I am and that makes me sad for what we're probably facing after another good, but not UK good season.
 

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So you think scheyer is getting recruits because he is the cool one?
Scheyer isn't all that cool. He's corporate. Most of his interviews feel really canned.

He does strike me as very competitive. He's not lighting up the podium, that's for sure.

Greatest mouthpieces at the mic are in the Big East.
 

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Rivals has 14 five stars in each of the last 2 recruiting classes. So if pope recruiting every 5 star in the '25 and '26 recruiting classes and missed he would still only be 0 for 28, but don't let facts get in the way....I guess you could include the '24 class but most of those 5 stars were committed before pope was hired
Some services have more. ESPN had 23 last season and some have over 30 some years. Rivals doesn’t have a set number either for every year although the last couple years have only had 14. In 2022 they had 20 five stars and have had more than that. I get your point but recruiting definitely needs to improve. Hard to figure out with all the money we have. Is what it is. lol.
 
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Ash Williams

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Rivals has 14 five stars in each of the last 2 recruiting classes. So if pope recruiting every 5 star in the '25 and '26 recruiting classes and missed he would still only be 0 for 28, but don't let facts get in the way....I guess you could include the '24 class but most of those 5 stars were committed before pope was hired
Weird flex.
 

Ash Williams

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So mark pope being hired on April 12, 2024 when almost everyone was already committed isn't an excuse...are you dense. How many 5stars were even available at that point. Not many,but not looking it up. Then you incorrectly assume he tried to recruit every 5star in the 2 following classes. Sorry if you don't understand, but I can't fix stupid. That's you by the way, since you clearly lack the ability to think logically.
Speaking of dense, are you seriously trying to make the case that Pope would have landed even one of those 14 players in 2024 when he has landed zero in the subsequent two years? Please respond to this because I want to understand your twisted logic.
 

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How many 5 stars has he ever gotten? I seem to remember when Cal came here, he pulled a few from Memphis.

If you want to make your bed on a complete lie that Pope can recruit you, you might be the dumbest human on the planet.
Now you are just putting words in my mouth to cover your stupidity
 

UKFootball78

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No, I am not. The point for the 24 class was he didn't even get a chance to recruit most of those 5 stars to UK, since they were already committed when he got the UK job. Yet you guys are saying he whiffed on all of them. How are you failing to see the logic here?
 

UKFootball78

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Speaking of dense, are you seriously trying to make the case that Pope would have landed even one of those 14 players in 2024 when he has landed zero in the subsequent two years? Please respond to this because I want to understand your twisted logic.
No, I am not. The point for the 24 class was he didn't even get a chance to recruit most of those 5 stars to UK, since they were already committed when he got the UK job. Yet you guys are saying he whiffed on all of them. How are you failing to see the logic here?looks like you are the dense one here
 
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