If we can get zoom Mason Morton N’Diaye McBride Hawthorne and Kam back that’s a really good core to build onto.
Nasir Anderson not coming on his visit he cancelled it
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His free throw defense was elite
I stated above john wall would only get a couple hundred thousand. That was a guess but looks to be on point. I know they got paid.
Was still a different time and hard to compare.
So say You are an elite recruiter. Better than John calapari. Would you want to coach UK back then when you could ILLEGALLY pay a couple players....because if you think every player got paid you're crazy. Only the top stars....or would you rather have a $22 million war chest thrown in your lap and the freedom to go recruit with that 22 million however you wanted?
Im going with today's time because if you coach at Uk and even have the smallest ounce of swag you are going to get some studs. Not Pope. BILLY G WOULD BE RECRUITING BETTER THAN MARK POPE WITH 22 MILLION..
Hell you can be a terrible basketball coach and have a little bit of swag and get players with our resources. Pope is just EXTREMELY ODD. Millions of fans are looking at it. Players see what we see.
Shiiiiiiiiite - did not know Silver is a Duke grad, or that nugget about Grant Hill. This is interesting intel. F Puke.
Good God, there is no stopping it. Does put a lot more pressure on Scheyer.
Sue Bird is the Team USA's women's GM - the women's side is all UConn mafia.
Honestly man --- I just think that's what college sports have mostly become. And I don't see it changing soon. I do agree NBA pipeline still matters, but beyond that --- playing time and money matter most of all.
If you think pope is strange then what you think about a raging alcoholic as your coach?
billy g should’ve stayed at A&M where that style of coaching worked. Star players don’t wanna play that style.
So how is Pope odd? Because he isn’t like you or Calipari? There has been some very odd acting coaches still pull talent. It’s got nothing to do with him being “odd” as you say.
Which was total bullshi% . He threatened to sue the paper if they couldn't provide proof that he actually did that. Then ended up retracting the story and apologized. It came out later that the story originated from a rival school angry that Davis didn't go there.
46-26 vs. 40-27 against much easier schedules are not anywhere close to identical.
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Hahaha, so some writer said there were rumors and now it is fact? Keep trying.
Eh, bags were a thing back then. Who cares. Jay Williams just went on an interview openly talking about his black duffel bag and asked the Duke guy next to him if he got one. I presume everyone was doing some of it.
Actually they literally are one game away from being identical. Just because your opinion about schedule difficulty says today is harder im not buying it.46-26 vs. 40-27 against much easier schedules are not anywhere close to identical.
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But let's say your opinion that today is harder than back then is true. Even tho we play the same exact programs. If we cheated back then and payed players and I guess yall assume had more resources than these other programs why does that make today easier? If we have more resources today than than other programs we shouldn't be a ninth seed in the tournament.
Look at the revenue share. We put way more towards Basketball than any other program. Roughly 45%. So where are yall getting Billy G had all these advantages and an easier schedule than Pope? Pope literally has an advantage over other coaches. Thats just revenue. Not including boosters and everything else.
Even tho I don't want either man anywhere near the program im still going to roll with Billy G in today's game over Pope. It's really not close. He played the same damn teams.
ONLY REASON YALL SAY TODAY IS HARDER IS BECUASE POPE IS TERRIBLE AND WE CANT COMPETE WITH THE CONFERENCE ANYMORE.
its more of we got worse than the schedule got harder. Florida is winning titles now and they was winning even more back then. Pope protectors man.
46-26 vs. 40-27 is not literally one game difference. If you had looked at the link I gave you you would have seen the strength of schedule rating for their seasons. Pope has played a SOS difficulty of 14.04 and 12.96 (the two most difficult in school history) vs. 7.09 and 4.82 for Billy G (47th and 54th most difficult in the 76 seasons rated).
The SRS (actual performance vs schedule) rates at 21.26 and 19.13 for Pope vs. 9.19 and 12.96 for BCG.
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I was always curious about Nasir Anderson's recruitment. I agree with the poster who said he was a bully-ball type PG - which is no knock on him for me. But M. Williams went head-to-head with Anderson last season and I think thoroughly out played him (and no, I don't care about the non-sequitur of who is ranked where in high school recruiting rankings). Now it's one game and Anderson is also a class behind Williams (I don't know about their ages), but I wonder if playing time concerns arise - especially if you think maybe both Diallo and Williams are at UK next season.
That's a huge "if." At the beginning of last year, we all thought we would be getting Jelly, Garrison, Lowe, Jasper, Chandler, and Mo D for this season. In the NIL world, coaches shouldn't count on anything. Especially a coach like Pope.
Im rolling with BIlly G Paul. Sure he was terrible but we didn't get made fun of nationally. Pope is terrible just like Billy but we get made fun of and used like a hooker in a wild west saloon.
And as far as the record my bad. Misread the 46 for 40
Pope is better than Billy Clyde by a country mile.
That said, neither one of them is UK material.
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Billy Gs team will do Popes team exactly like Georgia does them. Come on man Pope can't even beat Georgia. Can't even beat Bama one time out of how many?
I don't know for sure but im pretty sure Billy G beat them at least once. JUST ONCE
Every other post you have ever made has been horribly stupid as well so this is exactly the kind of reply I expect from you. God forbid you ever admit to being wrong even when it has so thoroughly been proven to you.
Do you continue to insist 46-26 vs 40-27 to be literally one game difference as well?
I haven't seen much on him, but boy he is built like a tank, looks more like a FB player. I can't think of many comps.
You are a big numbers guy. Those numbers from computers or random people don't reflect reality. Like hiw can you actually judge a strength of schedule? I guess the same way they have preseason polls and some teams they predict to ball out don't even make the tournament.
Like we went crazy about beating number nine on the road but two weeks later the entire country blows it off like aw well they actually aren't thay good. So is the strength of schedule really a point of argument when they rank them number nine then all of a sudden they are garbage?
Let's just go off of what we witnessed back then and what we are seeing today. You can't find a softer coach in college basketball than Pope.
Actually I will debate you and make valid points like I always have. And I'll do it without attacking you. I'll do it respectfully. I'll make a valid point that you can disagree with all you want but don't try to distract with all the little non sense things.Every other post you have ever made has been horribly stupid as well so this is exactly the kind of reply I expect from you. God forbid you ever admit to being wrong even when it has so thoroughly been proven to you.
Do you continue to insist 46-26 vs 40-27 to be literally one game difference as well?
What kind of reply would you expect? Because I've always stated my opinion and then break it down the best I can. You can't have a conversation without making it about me and you. Keep it about Pope and Billy G.
So does strength of schedule get stated before the season? Is it a thing that can change as the season goes on? Or is it a thing where they overated a terrible Texas a&m team before the season but on the strength of schedule it still takes it as the ninth team in the country when really they are not even a ranked team. How's it work Paul
Also I already admitted to misreading the 40 wrong aboveEvery other post you have ever made has been horribly stupid as well so this is exactly the kind of reply I expect from you. God forbid you ever admit to being wrong even when it has so thoroughly been proven to you.
Do you continue to insist 46-26 vs 40-27 to be literally one game difference as well?
simple mistake. I actually can admit when im wrong. And when you say something that makes sense I have the ability to agree with you.Hopefully somebody can answer my question about strength of schedule. Paul ran away when I asked him a valid question about his strength of schedule argument.
I gave you conclusive facts and you basically said you don't care, you are not changing your mind, Pope is the worst coach in history, made up some stuff about embarrassment, national jokes, and blah, blah, blah.
The strength of schedule is derived from the SRS rating of your opponents and it adjusts as things play out eventually landing at a final rating. It has nothing to do with AP rankings preseason or otherwise.
The strength rating of your opponents is derived by the strength of their opponents and their actual results against those opponents. The SOS and SRS ratings I have given you would appropriately adjust to the actual results of the completed season.
They are both in an eternal battle of suckage to me. I hope Pope fixes it, but I’m still seeing the same things. I don’t see him becoming an elite recruiter, injuries still happening at a crazy pace, and we will see about game prep and how hard they play this year.
You did not wait long enough to get a response. It was 16 minutes from you asking to this.
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So back when Billy g was coach maybe 3-4 sec teams made the tourney max. It’s been what 12-13 teams under pope. Seems like the competition is a little bit stiffer these days. But I guess that don’t matter. Also the comment about we didn’t get made fun of under Billy G. I take it you weren’t around then by that comment alone.
You admitted to (edited) it after I had already called you out on it.Also I already admitted to misreading the 40 wrong above
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As long as Pope is here I’m going to assume we miss out on the big recruits we want.
I was only kidding paul. Im just messing with you. Hopefully you can hate my opinions but still see im not trolling at all. I get you hate me crapping on pope man.
I edited it way before. Im sure yiu csn see a time stamp or something
Not to mention starting 50 threads an hour at times as well as posting gay porn. I'll go ahead put you on ignore now. I'll probably see your next account in a day or two anyway.
We didnt get made fun of like we are now. Im sure we did a little because we are UK and usually great while Billy G sucked....but I don't we were s national running joke. The pr Pope and Kentucky have had the last two years is terrible.
I bet when Billy G was the coach everyone knew when big blue madness was. Bet it was packed out and people were excited at least a little bit.
OK that was in the past. Im not asking for forgiveness lol.....just stay on topic. There's no gay porn around right now but as much as you bring that up I feel like you are disappointed..
I can easily see where it was not there when I quoted you in my reply. So long until your next account.
So you are going to avoid the strength of schedule question because it destroys your argument. Got it..funny
Billy G would put Popes entire team in a bathroom stall just like Georgia does. Case closed
Sure feels that way. I understand recruiting isn't easy and theres a lot of factors in play, but I cant understand is how we can be so far behind when we are offering a top10 salary cap. Theres no reason for a school like VaTech or Rutgers or Baylor to battle with us for players.. the only reasonable explanation then, is that Mark Pope is just not good at this.
Im not saying we should just go land 5 guys in the top10.. but the bare minimum for Kentucky in this NIL era should be a top5 recruiting class. A good coach should be able to sleep walk his way to an elite class when he has UKs NIL money snd facilities backing him.
And if Pope cant do that (and hes clearly far off as of now), then what are we doing here?
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