Rocco Becht is playing injured.
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It was reported the scouts that were there almost specifically to see Becht left at the half. The podcaster who rode the elevator with them said (paraphrasing) they had seen enough and it was bad.
It was bad...I'm questioning whether or not any scout was sent just to watch Rocco though. That seems like a massive waste of time/money for someone who was never a day 1 or 2 pick. Hopefully they were with the Bears and made the quick trip if true lol
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I thought about this some more. Maybe he has a mental injury or at least an injured self esteem. Because for someone who is supposed to be an experienced expert in running this offense, he certainly doesn’t seem to know what he is doing.
I can't imagine why anyone was there to see Becht - I assume those guys do go overboard though on doing their due diligence.
There are plenty of effective college QBs who are absolute non-prospects wrt the NFL. So it is not a condemnation of Becht, but there is zero opportunity for Becht in the NFL, and that is a conclusion that could have been reached 1 year or 2 years ago.
It is great that he played for years at ISU and helped them win games - truly. And now he gets to play on a bigger stage. That used to be, and in some cases still is, a dream come true for a ballplayer. But his football career is done whan Penn State's season concludes this year.
Let's also remember this about Becht...
These boards have basically hated every QB we've had since Collins with the possible exception of Trace (which was smoke and mirrors because of Saquon, Gesicki and Godwin). People here still act as though Beau would have been better than Allar despite him being run off Mizzou and will likely be pushed out at UVa after this year. People bashed Clifford for years. Hack was hated despite staying. McMoxie was loved then hated. Morelli was hated for not living up to the hype. Clark and MRob were probably the only others since 2000 that were liked at all.
Collins is the only Penn State QB that has had real success in the NFL since Blackledge. He hasn't been here in over 30 years.
It's just common for posters to attack the QB--it's easy. Becht has been awful for 2 games but we've had worse.
These boards have basically hated every QB we've had since Collins with the possible exception of Trace (which was smoke and mirrors because of Saquon, Gesicki and Godwin). People here still act as though Beau would have been better than Allar despite him being run off Mizzou and will likely be pushed out at UVa after this year. People bashed Clifford for years. Hack was hated despite staying. McMoxie was loved then hated. Morelli was hated for not living up to the hype. Clark and MRob were probably the only others since 2000 that were liked at all.
Collins is the only Penn State QB that has had real success in the NFL since Blackledge. He hasn't been here in over 30 years.
It's just common for posters to attack the QB--it's easy. Becht has been awful for 2 games but we've had worse.
LOL
Or maybe - in addition to Becht - all of the DTs on the roster are playing hurt....
And the entire offensive line....
And all the LBers sans Rojas....
And all the Safeties....
And all the WRs
And the Punter - hell, maybe even lay that on the Kicker, who has missed, IIR twice as many FGs as all of last year.
But the CBs have been healthy! LOL
Or maybe, just maybe, you're right.
All these backups and 2nd/3rd tier transfers from lower-level programs are not all "diamonds in the rough" being coached up to Excellence at the Highest Level
I liked him--but I feel like everyone turned on him in 2003 & 2004--at least 2004Fans liked him:
Losing seems to do that
The overall talent (not just QB) just doesn't seem to be there. We'll see where they end up at the end of the season but 5-6 losses with no IU, OSU or Oregon on the schedule and a pathetic non-conf schedule would be a considered a failure
Yes you are making excuses. Did he re-injure his oblique this fall because he sure as hell would have long recovered from the one he supposedly had last year at ISU.
My recollection is that Hostetter and Blackledge alternated for a game or two but could be wrong.
Because I don’t give a bleep what he did before he got here. Becht has been flat out bad the last 2 games and looked overwhelmed at times.
And this is great...you're acknowledging exactly what I'm claiming is the problem. Thank you.
For someone that's injured, some his passes seem to zip about 75 mph right behind receivers.
But we don't have that. Our best chance is to spread the defense and use the pass to set up the run.
More than at times - just overall bad, overwhelmed, not performing -- welcome to the Big 10
The "Welcome to the Big 10" part is the problem. You all act like lower level QB never have success moving up a level.
You're probably real confused how guys like Josh Allen, Joe Flacco, Big Ben, etc
How many Big Ten QBs do you think are currently starting in the NFL?
Allegedly he's 6'1" but he doesn't have to be on their level
Mendoza came from the ACC/Cal and won a title. It doesn't matter where the guys come from.
Kurtis Rourke came from the MAC and had success
Rocco has been horrible--why people don't comprehend that a QB like Rocco needs a legit #1 to be successful is crazy to me. See Iowa State in 2014 with 2 NFL WRs.
He never healed after being injured at Wisconsin in ,2002, just like Becht
5-6 losses??? We're going to be lucky to win 1 Conference game, let alone 3 or 4. This team was so far from competitive against a middling b1g team this past Friday it's ridiculous. Complete pie-in-the-sky to believe this team is qualifying for the postseason.
The OL has also looked overwhelmed the past 2 weeks. Could that also be contributing to the qb problems?
Becht's issue is accuracy. Last year at ISU vs weaker competition he was 61%.
This year vs Wisky 41%
1st 3 quarters vs NW pre garbage time 58%
And his downfield passing as in 20 plus yards seems atrocious.
He has to get more accurate obviously but the reality is he was not stellar with his accuracy at ISU. I thought he was better than that at ISU. I hope he can improve but with better defenses we may be seeing his ceiling at about 60% if not mid 50s. Getting Howard back will help him as he will get separation but we may not see anything different than what we have seen the last two games vs USC.
Also a lot of people are dogging NW. They are a good team. That doesn't mean I'm saying we are pretty good or don't have big time issues but NW is probably a top 5 or 6 team in the B10. I challenge anyone to come up with 5 B10 teams that you think are significantly better than NW.
This year vs Wisky 41%
1st 3 quarters vs NW pre garbage time 58%
And his downfield passing as in 20 plus yards seems atrocious.
He has to get more accurate obviously but the reality is he was not stellar with his accuracy at ISU. I thought he was better than that at ISU. I hope he can improve but with better defenses we may be seeing his ceiling at about 60% if not mid 50s. Getting Howard back will help him as he will get separation but we may not see anything different than what we have seen the last two games vs USC.
Also a lot of people are dogging NW. They are a good team. That doesn't mean I'm saying we are pretty good or don't have big time issues but NW is probably a top 5 or 6 team in the B10. I challenge anyone to come up with 5 B10 teams that you think are significantly better than NW.
It's hard to believe that any NFL team would consider drafting him. Perhaps CFL. He's small with an average arm and a bit of a low release point. It's conceivable that he's not 100%.
No. 2002. At Wisconsin. We won the game and from there on in he could not throw the ball the same.
Maybe, Lando. At some point he might recognize that nearly finished stadium is far from full and it’s supposed to be.
He’s also going to lay in bed at night and hear the question “am I doing the right thing” pop in his head.
I won’t be surprised if he stays the course tho.
he does have to win. There is not that much house money.
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