She acted with all the class and self-restraint of one of those women you see in the vid clips losing their sh* t at a fast food worker because they got the wrong sauce. Unbelievable.
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I wouldn't say it happens often but players can request stadium security remove fans who are being disrespectful. CC requested a fan get kicked out of a playoff game against Connecticut her Rookie year. Westbrook got a fan kicked out of a game in Utah. There were a couple incidents in the MLB last year.
Shoutout to @Legend12 for staying with the "Business of Basketball", rather than reacting to all of the Kanter Controversy.
True. She should have gone to the ref and snitched on him.Regardless of how you feel about what he's doing, she's the one that messed up. Pretty much rule #1 of any sporting event for athletes is to not engage the crowd, no matter how stupid the crowd is acting.
He was simply there to observe and offer suggestions on how to improve the game.
This 100%. But that's what mature professionals do. The WNBA is loaded with women who are neither
Well maybe we can agree it's shame we're talking about all this other crap instead of a great game?
We won't agree on why we're talking about the other crap, but it is still a shame.
I thought that he might be scouting for a future team?
11 years in the NBA, worth over $40M. Sounds like a failure to me. Too bad he didn't do anything meaningful with his life.
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Do not engage.And i would add that all gets back to the league has never had to operate as a true business with a desirable product instead of the money pit it's been for decades.
They should follow the example of other leagues who have instituted testing for fairness and transparency. Agree.Oh NO. Remember, the WNBA IS ALL about "inclusion", lolol. Sure they are
Okay. Lets go there.People keep saying, why do people want to "fix a problem that doesn't exist" Correct? So, please tell me Why the IOC in charge of ALL international competition, the NCAA, and pretty much every other women's professional league has but in place "ONLY biological females will be allowed to participate". Why has basically every other governing body seen fit to address this as an issue worthy of a firm "this is the line" rule, but the WNBA as always lags behind in taking an actual (and frankly easy and concise) stance. Why?
The whole point of protesting and going to games (And I don't give a damn which side does it) is to get the WNBA off of it's dead ***, and make important changes and be more transparent.
It would appear to me Kanter has just been trying to seek attention ... for a lot of worthy causes!
Nobody has to like his methods, but he's proving a point we've all talked about anyways for years.
I wasn't gonna post the above, but you didn't drop the topic, so......
The problem with the WNBA isn't transgender athletes.
It's hypocrisy. And it's been a huge f***ing problem pretty much since the league's inception, and only got worse as the sport grew more and more niche and insular.
Guys like Enes Kanter, who is absolutely 100% playing the troll, wouldn't seek this kind of attention if the WNBA was run like a serious organization................
You know this.
Yes, stick with pick and roll. Set high ball screens for Mitchell and Clark. Block out and rebound.
The fact that Reeve is a paid employee and wears apparel supporting a highly controversial matter, only re-enforces how agenda driven the league is. At least Kanter paid money to be there and wore his own apparel. Adam Silver removed agendas from the NBA. The W needs to do the same.
Again, how many trans players are currently playing? And I believe you've said there has been 1 but that's also a little unclear. You're all about the whatism's going on. There are currently zero playing. The only people that seem bothered about basically a non issue ( zero players) are guys like you that aren't playing.
Silver is Englebert's boss, correct? If so, why isn't he doing it here?
Silver has no authority over the WNBA. That's up to the Board of Governors. He's the "Subsidizer in Chief" lol. He does have a great deal of influence, however.
As someone who has served in the armed forces, I applaud Kanter for standing for the National Anthem.
Not knowing what was said, He doesn't strike me as the type of person who would profane someone. Lately, W players have been pretty thin-skinned with fans.
Please! No! We're still getting flashbacks.It's time to come back to Indiana
That's just patently false.
Sophie made a comment about no biological males should be in girls' sports. She didn't mention the WNBA.
It is people in and around the W, including the traditional media, that pressed the issue and at least one player publicly stated she would welcome a trans player. Also, plenty of fans in Toronto, NYC, and Chicago were "bothered" by Sophie's comments which again didn't mention the W.
I've mentioned her several times already, but it was certainly not a "non-issue" to Reeve, or for that matter the Valkyries coach.
If I'm recalling correctly @SoonerBeAHawk, only one Sky player was out there standing for the National Anthem. 
Credit to that player.
Credit to that player.
The fact is, that we don't know for certain if there are, or how many there are, until the league follows the path that other women's sports organizations have, and begin testing and verifying. Quite simple really. Just be transparent.
That doesn't make anything I said in my post untrue. He was a mediocre player at best. He tried getting into the WWE. He craves attention. And IMO he's a total clown. Even if I agree with Sophie's position on this, he's doing that argument zero favors through his ridiculous actions of trying to declare for the WNBA draft. Just attention seeking and stupid.
With all this turmoil that started with one player who, OFF COURT, stated her opinion, it just reinforces for me that players, and now coaches too, shouldn't be dragging their politics onto the playing surface before or during a game.
That is all.
That is all.
Tear down the messenger instead of the message much?
What does it matter what his playing ability in the League was? You and I would both have killed to have ever touched an NBA floor.
He has brought attention to the hapless plights of many peoples and received many awards and recognitions for it, which you seem to casually shrug off, and now for this issue he is suddenly and purely self motivated? Nonsense.
I would say there are many more people appreciating, and even celebrating, Kanter's involvement than not going by what I have seen so far.
I'd suggest hanging in the NBA for 11 years takes a little more than "mediocre". If not, that opens a whole nother discussion about professional sports.
As for the rest, sure. I can see your point of view. But he has done some meaningful things with his after-basketball life.
Regardless, this whole thing is an absurd circus and was long before he got involved.
I'd suggest there is such a thing as a "mediocre" NBA players, just like there are in every other professional sport.
But I do agree the whole thing is a circus.
Does the w go out of their way to find a way to distract from CC every single time she has a record breaking game? Jeebus people.
Ideally I’d keep AB and ditch SW. In the WNBA the coaches can screw up teams a lot more than they can help them be better. There’s only maybe 2 or 3 coaches that are worthwhile in the entire league. Nakase may be the best right now considering what she’s doing with the roster she has. Reeve and Hammon do great, when they have the best players in the league on their rosters. It’d be interesting to see what either one of them could do with GS’s roster. The “horses” on the floor are what really matters in the league.
But AB’s contract is so large that if you can find the right return for it, and free up some cap space, I’d be listening to offers if I was the GM. If Clark doesn’t sign an extension, Boston will be earning almost 3x as much next season. That’s a huge amount of salary, probably around 1/5 of the total cap next season. She hasn’t been worth that much this season and that salary is going to make it hard to get a viable backup for her.
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