So now we all hate Tucker Carlsen right?

RockyMtNole

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I agree it’s a bad look, but so is the way the democrats treated Trump even prior to him being President. Same way they treated Bush. “George Bush don’t care about black oeople”

Come to think of it, when have democrats treated any Republican like sane adults? And yes, Republicans do the same thing. Welcome to the world of politics where there is no high road.


Hash it out. That’s why we are all on this board. Every last one of you. It’s called the House of Politics. Not the house of Righteousness.


You and Michelle Obama can pretend like you have the high road, but you don’t.
How Democrats treated Trump before becoming President? Did anyone ever comment on Trump before he started with the Obama birth certificate nonsense?
 

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You and many Lefties here are simpletons and assume that all Trump supporters support everything he does. Maybe you should look in the mirror and see how awful some of your policies are. I think Tucker went over the top here, but I have no problem with him breaking with Trump. I supported DeSantis over Trump and would support JD Vance over Trump. I believe the war is a horrible mistake. Too bad there isn't anyone with an IQ of 50 on the other side.
Lol. Nothing sillier than dumb people like you thinking they're know stuff. Exactly what policies are you referring to? And at least there used to be "policies". This crap by Trump isn't policy....just grift and white nationalism.
 

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Unfortunately the Republicans did that in the 80s under Reagan and the Dems welshed on their side of the deal. They will do it again, because their core policy is to import as many people as they can to create dependency and what they view as Dem voters in the future. Trump and others should make it hard to be here illegally and force illegals to self-deport. With everything going digital it is doable.
Simple man's math. And just more right wing ********. But you believe it and that's all that matters.
 
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So what is the status? Walk in and you get full citizenship?
Create another “Ellis Island” system, where peeps come in and get “documented”, put on a path, and move towards Naturalization.
Help them with language classes, citizen ship classes, education. In return, we gain peeps with a stake in the country, a desire to give back for the opportunity to live and thrive in the US of A.
All but the First People here have come from other lands.

It sucks that we are now pitted against immigrants
 

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Lol. Nothing sillier than dumb people like you thinking they're know stuff. Exactly what policies are you referring to? And at least there used to be "policies". This crap by Trump isn't policy....just grift and white nationalism.
Open borders for a start. DSA lunacy. Attacks on merit in academia and dumbing down University education by support for dei. Intolerance and monoculture in academia. Dismissal of Western civilization (See Mandami getting rid of Little Italy in New York City on its map) and treating the harmful ideology of Islam as though it is a force for good in society. Huge stupid spending on supposed climate change solutions that does nothing. Support of high spending on failing educational system as a result of teacher union lobbying. Socialism. Rent control. Squatters rights Support for world hijab day. Excusing and being lenient on black crime. (See support for Karmelo Anthony ) Excusing or supporting squatters rights. Extreme regulation of building and business as is practice by California, such as building a toilet for the homeless for $625,000. This is a partial list.
 
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Open borders for a start. DSA lunacy. Attacks on merit in academia and dumbing down University education by support for dei. Intolerance and monoculture in academia. Dismissal of Western civilization (See Mandami getting rid of Little Italy in New York City on its map) and treating the harmful ideology of Islam as though it is a force for good in society. Huge stupid spending on supposed climate change solutions that does nothing. Support of high spending on failing educational system as a result of teacher union lobbying. Socialism. Rent control. Squatters rights Support for world hijab day. Excusing and being lenient on black crime. (See support for Karmelo Anthony ) Excusing or supporting squatters rights. Extreme regulation of building and business as is practice by California, such as building a toilet for the homeless for $625,000. This is a partial list.
You have entered cray cray land.
 

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*Approximately $200K for a restroom building in a public park.
No, because of the publicity surrounding the $1.7 million original estimate a private party donated $425,000. You can't seriously expect that as a matter of routine.

To show you how out of touch you and California are, I am a private lender in Ohio in addition to being a lawyer. Recently several investors have presented several very beat up 4000 sq ft mult-family structures that they could buy for $150,000 -- $175,000 and fix for under $200,000. Depending on the configuration of the bldgs they could rent typically for $1,000 a month for 4 units. Myself and another lender will provide the money. Basically 4 families will live in what will be nice buildings for less than it costs to build a toilet in Calif. You might be insensitive to the cost and waste in California because you are a member of a privileged class as a professor and other professors and graduates of the UC system benefit by being hired to write up useless multiple reports (for instance environmental reports) as a precondition to build a toilet or restroom building as you call it. (According to chat gpt building was 50 sq ft when completed. $12,500 per sq ft. as I analyze it. $4167 per sq ft as you analyze it.

Something you and all Californians can be proud of,
 
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No, because of the publicity surrounding the $1.7 million original estimate a private party donated $425,000. You can't seriously expect that as a matter of routine.

To show you how out of touch you and California are, I am a private lender in Ohio in addition to being a lawyer. Recently several investors have presented several very beat up 4000 sq ft mult-family structures that they could buy for $150,000 -- $175,000 and fix for under $200,000. Depending on the configuration of the bldgs they could rent typically for $1,000 a month for 4 units. Myself and another lender will provide the money. Basically 4 families will live in what will be nice buildings for less than it costs to build a toilet in Calif. You might be insensitive to the cost and waste in California because you are a member of a privileged class as a professor and other professors and graduates of the UC system benefit by being hired to write up useless multiple reports (for instance environmental reports) as a precondition to build a toilet or restroom building as you call it. (According to chat gpt building was 50 sq ft when completed. $12,500 per sq ft. as I analyze it. $4167 per sq ft as you analyze it.

Something you and all Californians can be proud of,
A new defense contractor with don trump as a principle received a 600 million loan from the pentagon, largest loan ever given by the defense dept. The new contractor has received billions in contracts from the US govt.

Of course you are fine overlooking this scale of open corruption and grift rom trump because...it's your side?

You must be so proud at your president enriching himself by 2.2 billion in his 1st year of his 2nd term.
 

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San Francisco, not California, spent approximately $200K to build a restroom building in a public park. Those are the actual facts.
The actual facts are it cost $625,000 to build it and that's what it will cost to build the next one. You got a one-time charity contribution which can't be expected in the future and the $625,000 is a real reflection of what it costs to build a 50 ft restroom in San francisco. As far as I know, San Francisco hasn't repealed the onerous and expensive regulations that require $625,000 of materials and effort to build a 50 ft square toilet building.
 

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The actual facts are that San Francisco spent approximately $200K to build a restroom building in the Noe Valley public park. Additionally, I did not, in fact, receive a one-time charity contribution.

There are so many other more factually founded ways to criticize California and San Francisco, as you are so oddly inclined to do as a resident of Ohio, that I do not understand why you persist in repeating this singular example and characterizing it inaccurately.
 

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The actual facts are that San Francisco spent approximately $200K to build a restroom building in the Noe Valley public park. Additionally, I did not, in fact, receive a one-time charity contribution.

There are so many other more factually founded ways to criticize California and San Francisco, as you are so oddly inclined to do as a resident of Ohio, that I do not understand why you persist in repeating this singular example and characterizing it inaccurately.
You are economically illiterate. The point is that there are layers and layers of bureaucracy and waste. If it was a one off of someone hiding a bribe or something like that I wouldn't care. However it is built into the system. Here is an article that lays it all out. https://www.kalw.org/bay-area-news/2024-04-16/here-it-is-san-franciscos-most-famous-toilet
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according to Supervisor Rafael Mandleman, more than a million-and-half dollars is not so unusual for a toilet in San Francisco.
“I think there are other bathrooms that are as expensive or more expensive.....
the process of building even one toilet has many stages: an architect has to draw up plans for the bathroom; there needs to be a community review process; and then the arts commission has to do a design review.

After that, it’s subject to review under the California Environmental Quality Act. And once it’s approved, there are all the costs associated with hooking up the plumbing, and paying laborers to build the project.

Mandelman represents District 8, which includes Noe Valley.

This wasn’t a one-off problem, this was a problem that is embedded in almost everything we do
 

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You and many Lefties here are simpletons and assume that all Trump supporters support everything he does. Maybe you should look in the mirror and see how awful some of your policies are. I think Tucker went over the top here, but I have no problem with him breaking with Trump. I supported DeSantis over Trump and would support JD Vance over Trump. I believe the war is a horrible mistake. Too bad there isn't anyone with an IQ of 50 on the other side.
Nope, not at all. Although, to use your own wording, I can see how simpletons might think that. First of all, I'm not a leftie... I'm a moderate, a centrist. So everyone hates me for sure. I don't like a lot of the right wing policies and I don't like a lot of the left's either. As a general rule, I look at each piece of legislation and action in an of itself and think, is this a good idea? Then I support it based on merit, not whether the idea has an R or a D by it.

And again, if you read my previous posts here. I don't like Tucker at all... I admit it tickles me that he's anti Trump now and the MAGA folks are all pissed at him. To clerify, I don't think Trump supporters support everything he does. I think that Trump supporters support him NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES. There's a BIG difference between those two things. Again, a simpleton may not get that unless it's explained to them slowly like this.

As for who you support... Good? I guess? These guys (especially Vance) certainly carry water for Trump on the daily. What's the difference between them again?
 
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Nope, not at all. Although, to use your own wording, I can see how simpletons might think that. First of all, I'm not a leftie... I'm a moderate, a centrist. So everyone hates me for sure. I don't like a lot of the right wing policies and I don't like a lot of the left's either. As a general rule, I look at each piece of legislation and action in an of itself and think, is this a good idea? Then I support it based on merit, not whether the idea has an R or a D by it.

And again, if you read my previous posts here. I don't like Tucker at all... I admit it tickles me that he's anti Trump now and the MAGA folks are all pissed at him. To clerify, I don't think Trump supporters support everything he does. I think that Trump supporters support him NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES. There's a BIG difference between those two things. Again, a simpleton may not get that unless it's explained to them slowly like this.

As for who you support... Good? I guess? These guys (especially Vance) certainly carry water for Trump on the daily. What's the difference between them again?
Vance opposed the Iran War, and is not intentionally provocative or insulting. DeSantis is a great administrator who has kept taxes down in Florida and is strategic and who very substantially wounded dei in florida. I supported DeSantis over Trump in the primaries and I very strongly oppose the Iran War. If I could have found a way to keep myself off of the political texting messaging lists I would have contributed to Thomas Massey's campaign in kentucky.

There are lots of people who support Trump no matter what. There are a lot of others who hold their nose and support him because the other side is worse. I am mostly in the second camp.
 
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Do you agree that $1,000,000 or $1.5 million is not unusual to construct a toilet in San Francisico?
I do not know what is typical for the construction of toilets in San Francisco. This story and the one about the futuristic toilet in the Embarcadero are literally the only stories about toilets in San Francisco that I have ever read. Honestly, constructing public toilets in San Francisco is just not all that relevant to my life or interests. As I noted previously, I think that the fixation on this particular toilet is odd.
 

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I do not know what is typical for the construction of toilets in San Francisco. This story and the one about the futuristic toilet in the Embarcadero are literally the only stories about toilets in San Francisco that I have ever read. Honestly, constructing public toilets in San Francisco is just not all that relevant to my life or interests. As I noted previously, I think that the fixation on this particular toilet is odd.
Where you and I are passing ships in the night is that this is illustrative of the incredible unthinking waste and bureaucracy in california. Your Governor thinks he is qualified to be president of the United States and I think his record and the record of what occurs in California should be an issue. You apparently are not concerned with environmental statements and community review for something as simple as a toilet. I would imagine a lot of people disagree with your position and it is important that people know how inefficient and wasteful things are in California.
 

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Vance opposed the Iran War, and is not intentionally provocative or insulting. DeSantis is a great administrator who has kept taxes down in Florida and is strategic and who very substantially wounded dei in florida. I supported DeSantis over Trump in the primaries and I very strongly oppose the Iran War. If I could have found a way to keep myself off of the political texting messaging lists I would have contributed to Thomas Massey's campaign in kentucky.

There are lots of people who support Trump no matter what. There are a lot of others who hold their nose and support him because the other side is worse. I am mostly in the second camp.
Are you kidding me?

Vance criticized prominent Democrats, including Kamala Harris, by suggesting that people without biological children lacked a direct stake in America's future. He referred to them as "childless cat ladies" who were miserable in their own lives.

Remember him comparing Trump to Hitler?

Just to name a couple.
 

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Where you and I are passing ships in the night is that this is illustrative of the incredible unthinking waste and bureaucracy in california. Your Governor thinks he is qualified to be president of the United States and I think his record and the record of what occurs in California should be an issue. You apparently are not concerned with environmental statements and community review for something as simple as a toilet. I would imagine a lot of people disagree with your position and it is important that people know how inefficient and wasteful things are in California.
You are correct: I am not concerned with the city of San Francisco having environmental statements and community review for buildings in public parks. I do not have a position on the construction of public toilets in San Francisco, other than generally supporting the city in doing so. I would be surprised to learn that a lot of people disagree with me on that. In fact, I can not recall having a single additional conversation with any people living in San Francisco or anywhere in California, much less any other state in the U.S., about the construction of this restroom.
 
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You are correct: I am not concerned with the city of San Francisco having environmental statements and community review for buildings in public parks. I do not have a position on the construction of public toilets in San Francisco, other than generally supporting the city in doing so. I would be surprised to learn that a lot of people disagree with me on that. In fact, I can not recall having a single additional conversation with any people living in San Francisco or anywhere in California, much less any other state, in the U.S. about the construction of this restroom.
it's funny...if you're using federal funds on a project that is located in a public park, you'd also (likely) have to do an environmental review and have it go through an additional agency review...it happens in my work all the time.
 

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*Approximately $200K for a restroom building in a public park.
That might be a lot for a couple of single-seaters but for a full building capable of serving multiple people... not so much.

edit: that's a lot for a single seater. But it's SF.
 
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I do not know what is typical for the construction of toilets in San Francisco. This story and the one about the futuristic toilet in the Embarcadero are literally the only stories about toilets in San Francisco that I have ever read. Honestly, constructing public toilets in San Francisco is just not all that relevant to my life or interests. As I noted previously, I think that the fixation on this particular toilet is odd.
Where are you and I are passing ships in the night is that this is illustrative of the unthinking waste and bureaucracy in california. Your Governor thinks he is qualified to be president of the United States and I think his record and the record of what occurs in California should be an issue.
Are you kidding me?

Vance criticized prominent Democrats, including Kamala Harris, by suggesting that people without biological children lacked a direct stake in America's future. He referred to them as "childless cat ladies" who were miserable in their own lives.

Remember him comparing Trump to Hitler?

Just to name a couple.
Vance was saying that people with children have more of a stake in the future of society which is true. He made a joke about cat ladies, which although exaggerated, had enough truth in it that it upset a lot of people. Additionally, there has been a substantial increase in mental illness and depression among women under 35.

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