***CC22 and the Fever mega thread***

The Big Z

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I don't watch much NBA basketbakk, but since I live in Texas, I thought I would watch the Spurs during the finals. I was surprised how much less physical contact is made in the NBA vs the WNBA These ladies are a lot rougher on each other than the men are.
The finals was crazy physical. Way more than the W. Be real here.
 

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Grayhair1981

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Agree on everything besides your last point. And i guess that’s in your “what it would take to get me to watch again” which would mean it’s more a “you thing” which is fine. But she doesn’t act any different than any of the other superstars in any of the other leagues. Hell, there’s plenty of players just in the WNBA that go off on the officials constantly. She has the spotlight though, so i guess it looks worse.
But she is over the top in complaining. I still remember her dad yelling at her to shut up and play when she was at Iowa. The truth is if she played at ISU or a rival B1G team, the Iowa forums would have had endless threads hating on her.
 

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What do you think I meant when I wrote, "(minus socials)"?

Ok, whether CC handles her emotions and team dynamics well or not, is it not still her job to handle those things better?

I'm not even sure what your point is, with any of this. Just all sounds like a bunch of whining, to me
You just keep posting the same nonsense and most of it just proves you're just pulling shi- out your backside. Just keep talking to yourself, you're the only one buying your tripe....
 

Kceasthawk@77

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Yes, this is the prevailing sentiment of fans that want to see Caitlin Clark fail. This is not a vocal minority for those wondering. I'm keeping tabs, for those on here that still wanna downplay........................



Lolol.. Well I guess there were those who ragged on MJ and Tiger as well because they didn't comment publicly the way some people wanted them to use their clout. Jordon once was quoted saying, "Republicans buy sneakers too"......
 

Franisdaman

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Look at what the NBA did to Draymond Green as an example.

He's choked, stomped and smacked players. His penalties have increased from 1 game, to 5 games and the last one was 12 games and having him take therapy for his anger.

As the NBA being the godfather over the W this should be a no brainer of what to do. But instead the W leadership has no plan or rules in place to cover this and the thugs continue with their dirty play.

how many players, during a game, has Dramond kicked in the groin?

and remember him punching a teammate during a practice? someone leaked the video and the Warriors were not happy about it (they wanted to keep it in house). The Warriors ended up trading that player and kept Dramond.
 

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I don't watch much NBA basketbakk, but since I live in Texas, I thought I would watch the Spurs during the finals. I was surprised how much less physical contact is made in the NBA vs the WNBA These ladies are a lot rougher on each other than the men are.
well IMO, the NBA are real men and the trash wnba is a bunch of women trying to be men.
 

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Absolutely nothing wrong with what she said here.
Clark super fans want more vocal public support for CC but White has already presented fairly strong remarks on behalf of Clark publicly and directly to the league. Nothing objectionable about what White said. An argument could be made that Fever management could be a bit more vocal, I suppose. What the super fans want is hysterical displays of outrage, public tantrums. They will continue to be disappointed.
 

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Most notably, Alyssa Thomas, Britney Griner, Angle Reese Reese, Alisha Grey, Chennedy Carter, and Marina Malberry all have been guilty of flagrant fouls, all have a large element of excessive physicality to their game. Ajah Wilson consistently uses excessive physical force in almost every game she plays but has the widely acknowledged benefit of her famous "Ajah Whistle" that gives her an extreme level of physicality, setting screens, clearing rebounders when blocking out, and receiving perhaps the largest number of flop calls in the league offensively and defensively, resulting in league-leading trips to the free throw lines. CC btw, is awarded by far, the fewest free throws in the league for a league-leading guard.

 

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Most notably, Alyssa Thomas, Britney Griner, Angle Reese Reese, Alisha Grey, Chennedy Carter, and Marina Malberry all have been guilty of flagrant fouls, all have a large element of excessive physicality to their game. Ajah Wilson consistently uses excessive physical force in almost every game she plays but has the widely acknowledged benefit of her famous "Ajah Whistle" that gives her an extreme level of physicality, setting screens, clearing rebounders when blocking out, and receiving perhaps the largest number of flop calls in the league offensively and defensively, resulting in league-leading trips to the free throw lines. CC btw, is awarded by far, the fewest free throws in the league for a league-leading guard.

"Awarded" FT's. 🤣 🤣

Again flagrant fouls are part of the game, to an extent. Are any of those players, other than perhaps Thomas, considered habitual offenders?

I'm guessing I know what your response is going to look like, given you're complaining about things that aren't even called fouls. 🤣 Again, even when players do commit fouls, it's PART OF THE GAME
 

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To those that are putting CC down about her handling stress, I have a suggestion for you. Lets say someone with a heavy rubber mallet and this person comes to your place of work and unexpectedly whacks you on the arm, or back, or neck 4 or 5 times a day. After a few weeks you would probably start looking around all day wondering when it will happen again.
 

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"Awarded" FT's. 🤣 🤣

Again flagrant fouls are part of the game, to an extent. Are any of those players, other than perhaps Thomas, considered habitual offenders?

I'm guessing I know what your response is going to look like, given you're complaining about things that aren't even called fouls. 🤣 Again, even when players do commit fouls, it's PART OF THE GAME
Of course fouls are part of the game, but saying flagrant fouls are part of the game is patently ridiculous. This isn't the 1980's NBA, or maybe that is where the WNBA is at. There is a reason they are called "flagrant" because they are far outside the accepted rules of the game. Stop making excuses.
 

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Clark super fans want more vocal public support for CC but White has already presented fairly strong remarks on behalf of Clark publicly and directly to the league. Nothing objectionable about what White said. An argument could be made that Fever management could be a bit more vocal, I suppose. What the super fans want is hysterical displays of outrage, public tantrums. They will continue to be disappointed.
I'll just respectfully disagree with your over generalization. My comment was that just a couple of days ago White called Thomas's actions, "egregeous, and unacceptable". Then she comes out supporting Thomas because Thomas said she's received racial slurs and death threats, (no one knows the accuracy of those claims), and then White says she and the league are all about safety for ALL players. SO, what happened to her comment a couple of days ago that HER player had "egregeous, and unacceptable" contact on her by the very player she is now supporting? Lets not forget that White and Thomas have a previous relationship as player/coach. Just how "egregeous" did white think those plays were? Or was that just a show?
 

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I'll just respectfully disagree with your over generalization. My comment was that just a couple of days ago White called Thomas's actions, "egregeous, and unacceptable". Then she comes out supporting Thomas because Thomas said she's received racial slurs and death threats, (no one knows the accuracy of those claims), and then White says she and the league are all about safety for ALL players. SO, what happened to her comment a couple of days ago that HER player had "egregeous, and unacceptable" contact on her by the very player she is now supporting? Lets not forget that White and Thomas have a previous relationship as player/coach. Just how "egregeous" did white think those plays were? Or was that just a show?
The fear of being labeled as "racist" or "homophobic" is very real. I'll leave off "misogynistic" for obvious reasons - but then again? It's worked for a long time and until people start to stand up to it then it will continue.
 

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I'll just respectfully disagree with your over generalization. My comment was that just a couple of days ago White called Thomas's actions, "egregeous, and unacceptable".

So White took up for CC after the game and correctly called out the cheap shot from AT that leads to a suspension.


Then she comes out supporting Thomas because Thomas said she's received racial slurs and death threats,

Pretty reasonable. Regardless of what you think of AT as a player or person, I think most people don't think she should be receiving slurs and death threats over this incident. White even stated that she did not believe the people sending these messages were WNBA or Fever fans.


(no one knows the accuracy of those claims),

I've seen several people say similar things like this. Firstly, I'd question how much some of you are on social media because if you think slurs and death threats getting sent to professional athletes is out of the realm of possibilities then you are living under a rock. Secondly even if you believe that AT is lying would you rather White publicly doubt her? Because that would open a whole can of worms that would make this data go on longer than it already has.


I and then White says she and the league are all about safety for ALL players. SO, what happened to her comment a couple of days ago that HER player had "egregeous, and unacceptable" contact on her by the very player she is now supporting?

I believe this comment was in regards to player safety off the court and online. Which again is pretty mundane statement
 
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Clark super fans want more vocal public support for CC but White has already presented fairly strong remarks on behalf of Clark publicly and directly to the league. Nothing objectionable about what White said. An argument could be made that Fever management could be a bit more vocal, I suppose. What the super fans want is hysterical displays of outrage, public tantrums. They will continue to be disappointed.
They want them to match the energy of the haters and the players like Thomas trying to turn this around and play the victim.

You are right though. That's not gonna happen...........
 
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The fear of being labeled as "racist" is very real.
Oh believe me when I say people are getting less and less afraid by the day, because of all the "cry wolf" bullsh** going on.

There's even a growing sentiment in the black community that's rolling their eyes every time another black person tries to excuse their behavior or actions because racism.
 

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Of course fouls are part of the game, but saying flagrant fouls are part of the game is patently ridiculous. This isn't the 1980's NBA, or maybe that is where the WNBA is at. There is a reason they are called "flagrant" because they are far outside the accepted rules of the game. Stop making excuses.
That's why I said they are part of the game, to an extent. And made the distinction between habitual offenders.

There's a difference between intentionally committing flagrants, and simply making a foul where the totality of the play warrants a flagrant. Those things happen.

And I'm guessing most people that do it intentionally will end up being habitual offenders that deserve further punishment.

Still, sometimes you have to do what you have to do
 

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ESPN posts top 50 WNBA players

  1. A’ja Wilson
  2. Kelsey Plum
  3. Caitlin Clark
  4. Paige Bueckers
  5. Breanna Stewart
  6. Olivia Miles
  7. Allisha Gray
  8. Rhyne Howard
  9. Jackie Young
  10. Alyssa Thomas
  11. Kelsey Mitchell
  12. Brittany Sykes
  13. Angel Reese
  14. Courtney Williams
  15. Aliyah Boston
  16. Jonquel Jones
  17. Jessica Sheppard
  18. Sonia Citron
  19. Kahleah Copper
  20. Nneka Ogwumike
  21. Marina Mabrey
  22. Chelsea Gray
  23. Kayla McBride
  24. Natasha Howard
  25. Kiki Iriafen
  26. Gabby Williams
  27. Skylar Diggins
  28. Arike Ogunbowale
  29. Shakira Austin
  30. Satou Sabally
  31. Carla Leite
  32. Nalyssa Smith
  33. Dearica Hamby
  34. Chennedy Carter
  35. Veronica Burton
  36. Jordin Canada
  37. Janelle Salaun
  38. Pauline Astier
  39. Dominique Malonga
  40. Kamilla Cardoso
  41. Marine Johannes
  42. Aneesah Morrow
  43. Azzi Fudd
  44. Natisha Hiedemen
  45. Leonie Fiebich
  46. Kiki Rice
  47. Naz Hillmon
  48. Bridget Carleton
  49. Flau’jae Johnson
  50. Nia Coffey
 

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I'll just respectfully disagree with your over generalization. My comment was that just a couple of days ago White called Thomas's actions, "egregeous, and unacceptable". Then she comes out supporting Thomas because Thomas said she's received racial slurs and death threats, (no one knows the accuracy of those claims), and then White says she and the league are all about safety for ALL players. SO, what happened to her comment a couple of days ago that HER player had "egregeous, and unacceptable" contact on her by the very player she is now supporting? Lets not forget that White and Thomas have a previous relationship as player/coach. Just how "egregeous" did white think those plays were? Or was that just a show?
White and Thomas had a relationship? that's sic

And for those of you that don't like me saying that? I don't really give a ****
 

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I think a one game suspension was appropriate. Certainly, nothing to raise a big deal about.

Whether AT has a history or not is an entirely different matter. And if she were punished more severely, based on that history, it would have nothing to do CC.

And the refs are bad, period. To suggest that they are officiating with an anti-CC bias is ridiculous, and only makes her look bad
It's not beyond the realm of possibility that the refs are bad and also biased.. the more i watch the more i believe this to be true...(now tell me she deserves it because of her antics)