Recruiting takes another brutal hit

[18IsTheMan]

#2 player in the state, RB Tre Segarra has committed to none other than LSU and Lane Kiffin. The latter is merely insult to injury. Segarra is someone Beamer wanted, and needed, badly. This was a big miss. We offered him 18 months ago. LSU offered him this month.

When do we start sounding alarms about the incoming class?

 

[18IsTheMan]

Obligatory responses:

He was never coming here

He was always going out of state

We didn't need him anyway

 

[Skuddy]

It's time to sound the alarm now for the state of SC. According to this site, we lead for one guy at this point. Most seem to be going out of state.

 

[PeeCock78]

Kiffin probably gave him the “If you go to SC you’ll end up pumping gas” routine that he fed to Alshon. The difference between him and Alshon is that he may have been stupid enough to believe it.

 

[muscleknight]

They all are one year rentals now any way.

 

[Slim Chickens Gamecock]

Kiffin probably gave him the “If you go to SC you’ll end up pumping gas” routine that he fed to Alshon. The difference between him and Alshon is that he may have been stupid enough to believe it.

that is one Red Rooster eye there Pee. Kind of unsettling.

 

[18IsTheMan]

They all are one year rentals now any way.

Ahhhhh....I forgot the "we'll just get him from the portal" obligatory response

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

They all are one year rentals now any way.

Which we don't seem to get those as well

 

[Lurker123]

Obligatory responses:

He was never coming here

He was always going out of state

We didn't need him anyway

As true as this is, I dont even blink at recruiting anymore. Get the player, dont get the player, who cares. The portal killed any thought of a guy coming and staying.

If anything, portal recruiting is almost the inly thing worth paying attention to.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

#2 player in the state, RB Tre Segarra has committed to none other than LSU and Lane Kiffin. The latter is merely insult to injury. Segarra is someone Beamer wanted, and needed, badly. This was a big miss. We offered him 18 months ago. LSU offered him this month.

When do we start sounding alarms about the incoming class?

We are failing miserably.
Some may attempt to pass this off (your post #2), but this is a very alarming trend. For those who may attempt to pass this off with a myriad of excuses, I am going to just put this tidbit out there for reference.
Miami just signed 18 players for their 2027 class. All 18 have shut down their recruitments. Again for effect, All 18 have shut down their recruitment.

 

[MathTeacher2011]

Until we start winning, we will never get the best players. Plus, we will never be able to keep up with the big time money schools

 

[Uscg1984]

Miami just signed 18 players for their 2027 class. All 18 have shut down their recruitments. Again for effect, All 18 have shut down their recruitment.

They've all signed? Like, on the dotted line?

This Segarra kid is still a couple of months from playing the first game of his senior year of high school, right? For the same reason I wouldn't get terribly excited about a "commitment" from him at this point, I'm not going to be despondent about his commitment to LSU. That is not to say I am particularly confident in Beamer's recruiting, but I just don't get excited about "commitments" from HS recruits any more. I don't see how anybody could.

 

[Tidalcock]

Until we start winning, we will never get the best players. Plus, we will never be able to keep up with the big time money schools

Until we get the best players, we will never be able to win. The old chicken or the egg conundrum.

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

It's time to sound the alarm now for the state of SC. According to this site, we lead for one guy at this point. Most seem to be going out of state.

Same for baseball

 

[Psycock]

Why does The Big Spur keep putting out that someone "flipped" from us when they never committed to us? BS in my opinion.

 

[Tngamecock]

Ahhhhh....I forgot the "we'll just get him from the portal" obligatory response

How about this one….”who cares.”

 

[Tngamecock]

They've all signed? Like, on the dotted line?

This Segarra kid is still a couple of months from playing the first game of his senior year of high school, right? For the same reason I wouldn't get terribly excited about a "commitment" from him at this point, I'm not going to be despondent about his commitment to LSU. That is not to say I am particularly confident in Beamer's recruiting, but I just don't get excited about "commitments" from HS recruits any more. I don't see how anybody could.

He’s confusing signed with commitment. If you’re signed, it’s likely your recruitment is shutdown (unless you’re Clemson).

 

[Lurker123]

How about this one….”who cares.”

Thats the one im feeling.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Again for effect, All 18 have shut down their recruitment.

Until they open it back up.

 

[DannyTree1]

It seems clear that Beamer's staff, regardless of who is on it, are not elite recruiters. This isn't really new.

 

[stu1cocks]

Same for baseball

Well at least they aren't going to Clemsux either....

 

[18IsTheMan]

It seems clear that Beamer's staff, regardless of who is on it, are not elite recruiters. This isn't really new.

Some coaches can win with less.

 

[Forkcock]

I was told NIL would be great for us.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I was told NIL would be great for us.

ha, yeah, can you believe it? I can recall some on here were happy that it would give us a chance to level the playing field.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Until they open it back up.

When exactly was the last time we heard one of our commitments announce the've closed their recuritment.
I would gladly trade (as I'm sure most on here would) our situation with Miami's situation.

 

[18IsTheMan]

When exactly was the last time we heard one of our commitments announce the've closed their recuritment.
I would gladly trade (as I'm sure most on here would) our situation with Miami's situation.

I think Dante Reno did, but that's all I got.

I give Beamer credit for clawing back Duckworth after he decommitted and appeared destined for LSU. If he's not the starter next year, though, he will transfer.

 

[CreekSnake]

I still think NIL is a problem.Carolina says they’re going to invest more in (name your sport)but then we find out everybody else is increasing theirs even more.If ain’t spending 40-50 mil on your football roster,then well you see recruiting go like Carolina’s is going.
Pundits who know say it’s only a matter of time before we a 100 mil roster.

 

[MathTeacher2011]

I still think NIL is a problem.Carolina says they’re going to invest more in (name your sport)but then we find out everybody else is increasing theirs even more.If ain’t spending 40-50 mil on your football roster,then well you see recruiting go like Carolina’s is going.
Pundits who know say it’s only a matter of time before we a 100 mil roster.

A national championship is not worth that kind of money.
I’ve pretty much quit watching college football, except for Carolina. I will watch Clemson to see if they lose.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I still think NIL is a problem.Carolina says they’re going to invest more in (name your sport)but then we find out everybody else is increasing theirs even more.If ain’t spending 40-50 mil on your football roster,then well you see recruiting go like Carolina’s is going.
Pundits who know say it’s only a matter of time before we a 100 mil roster.

I read that we should see a $100 million roster in 2-3 years. We are barely keeping our noses above water as it is.

 

[18IsTheMan]

A national championship is not worth that kind of money.
I’ve pretty much quit watching college football, except for Carolina. I will watch Clemson to see if they lose.

I keep wondering this. How much is it actually worth? How much is a single player actually worth?

It's believed that Miami is paying upwards of $10 million for Mensah. One player. They are believed to have paid his $4 million buyout from Duke and then are paying upwards of $6 million for one season of play. If they don't win the title, how can that cost, for one player, be justified?

Is a single player in college football generate enough revenue for team that, absent a title, he can be worth a $10 million payout?

 

[PrestonyteParrot]

I keep wondering this. How much is it actually worth? How much is a single player actually worth?

It's believed that Miami is paying upwards of $10 million for Mensah. One player. They are believed to have paid his $4 million buyout from Duke and then are paying upwards of $6 million for one season of play. If they don't win the title, how can that cost, for one player, be justified?

Is a single player in college football generate enough revenue for team that, absent a title, he can be worth a $10 million payout?

Crazy what CFB has become after free education.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Crazy what CFB has become after free education.

Shoot, I remember when all this first started, I thought "if you're paying a QB $1 million, that better guarantee winning a title." Now $1 million doesn't even get you in the conversation for a decent QB.