Trump Just Surrendered to Iran--Pathetic

tigres88

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Ok deal @UrHuckleberry I went ahead and translated all of the above for us in KJV:

The Epistle to the Ignorant​

1 Behold, of all the epistles inscribed in this place, thine is the most foolish and void of understanding; neither doth it rest upon a single pillar of truth.

2 Sayest thou that Persia is a mighty empire? I laugh thee to scorn. Verily, thou hast not searched the chronicles, and the days of old are hidden from thine eyes.

3 Consider the fields of Chancellorsville, the Bay of Swine, and the Snare of the Tiger, wherein our own brethren were slain by our own hands; yea, look unto the lands of Korea and Vietnam. Shall I yet recount more to lay bare thy foolishness?

4 Four hundred and fifty of our men of valor fell by our doing in the days of the Tiger. Add unto this the sorrows of Persia in the reign of Carter, and the six score save two of our countrymen who perished at the Bay of Swine.

5 Thou art utterly blind, and knowest nothing of the generations of old. Shall I speak unto thee of the greatest ruin that befell the hosts of the Britons in the Great War? Shall I yet declare thy lack of wisdom?

6 For thirty thousand souls of Britain perished in the wilderness of Gallipoli. Gird up thy loins and strive more mightily. Lord have mercy, all this vanity for a mind vexed with derangement!

7 It is not I who spreadeth falsehoods born of empty wind; rather, it is ye. I did but speak the very words of the ruler’s second.

8 Yet ye hearken unto the scribes and the town criers, knowing full well we rendered tribute unto Persia with the silver of our own land.

9 O God of heaven, canst thou not deal in the truth? Our undertaking prospered exceedingly. None but the simple and the fool say that our campaign against Persia hath failed.

10 I have already made my decree; I shall not write it a second time. Cast thine eyes to the words above.

11 Thinkest thou that Persia retaineth her strength? I mock thee! They possess but a remnant of fiery darts and flying vessels. Persia is but a thorn in the flesh at best.

12 If thou believest otherwise, the truth is not in thee. Yet this thou knowest well, for thou hast been a herald of their dung-hill of deceits these many weeks.

13 Come now, and let us reason together. Dost thou truly believe we did not smite their host and scatter their armies? I pray thee, what remaineth unto them?

14 Declare unto us all the might of the Persian host, if thou canst. My soul waiteth eagerly upon thine answer.
holy shi t this goes so much harder than @Hotshoe's inane psychopathy
 

tigres88

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Yes, I actually have. I deal in proper 1st and secondary sources, and have for 38 years as a researcher. Tertiary sources are generally sh&t, unnamed sources are absolute ****. You should have learned that at University. Yet, you believe blue sky nonsense. Your ignorance is wild. You actually pretend, along with your fellow Socialist, you know a single thing regarding an agreement which has been been released.

What's actually wild, is that, no one has posted more Iranian propaganda than you have against your own country. You're a joke. Own it.
1 Yea, verily I have. For I seek out the true testimonies of the first and second witnesses, and have laboured as a searcher of the chronicles these eight and thirty years.

2 The tales of the third witness are but dung, and the words of him whose name is hidden are an abomination.

3 Thou shouldst have learned this in the halls of the scribes. Yet thou hearkenest unto fables and empty wind; truly, thy foolishness knoweth no bounds.

4 Thou faintest wisdom, thou and thy brethren who seek to make all things common, boasting to understand a covenant that hath already been made manifest.

5 But behold the greatest marvel: no man hath heralded more deceits from the mouth of Persia against his own nation than thou.

6 Thou art become a mockery and a laughingstock; confess thy shame, and own thine iniquity.
 

Hotshoe

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Make a case for what? You needing a blow job? You are making that case for yourself.

I have not claimed to know any details of this iran deal bc Dumpy Donny has chosen not to share any. Show me where I have made any claims to this point. Seriously, show me.
You literally posted, Trump would have to give Iran money. Get lost, you disingenuous fool.
 
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UrHuckleberry

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I already listed it. Not doing it again. Look above. You actually believe Iran has much left? Lmao. they have a few rockets and drones. Iran is a nuisance at best. If you believe otherwise, you're simply not honest. Yet, you already know this because you've been pushing their ******** propaganda for weeks.

Let's be real. Shall we? You actually believe, we didn't decimate their military? Really? Just exactly what do they have left? Tell us all about the mighty, Iranian military. Can't wait for this...
Can you please provide the sources for the claim that they have a few rockets and drones left? Would like proper 1st and secondary sources or don't make the claim. Thank you.
 

Hotshoe

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This decimated military that you mock somehow brought us to the negotiating table.

Seems strange we would negotiate anything if things are as you say. Seems strange Israel would be freaking out about this deal if Iran is as decimated as you say.
So, you actually believe, the Gulf States did not support us, and they live in a vacuum? Seems strange how ignorant every lib is on here for politics and don't give a flying fk about America. Oh, yeah. The Abraham Accords, all done by Trump, are about to get stronger. Of course, you not only don't care, you have no knowledge. They literally opened up airlines between Israel and other Gulf Nations. Sit down. You are clueless.
 
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GDead_Tiger

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This is nothing but a lie. Iran has literally, no nuclear capability to build a bomb. Show what remains with real facts. Can't wait for your Aaron Rupar post. Lmao.
Ok then why did we bomb them this time? We heard that we destroyed their nuclear program last summer, but then we bombed them this time because we wanted to destroy their nuclear program? Trump says we’re going to take their HEU and now he says we aren’t going to take it? So which is it?
 

Hotshoe

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Can you please provide the sources for the claim that they have a few rockets and drones left? Would like proper 1st and secondary sources or don't make the claim. Thank you.
Absolutely, unlike your ilk. Over 14,000 sorties have been flown. I never said numbers regarding drones or rockets, you did.

Iran has lost over $160 billion in military losses. Over 50 bases destroyed, no Navy, and no Air Force remains. Done playing with clowns like you who believe we haven't done damage to Iran. Go post some more Iranian propaganda.
 

RockyMtNole

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So, you actually believe, the Gulf States did not support us, and they live in a vacuum? Seems strange how ignorant every lib is on here for politics and don't give a flying fk about America. Oh, yeah. The Abraham Accords, all done by Trump, are about to get stronger. Of course, you not only don't care, you have no knowledge. They literally opened up airlines between Israel and other Gulf Nations. Sit down. You are clueless.
You are struggling.
 

ChuckChuck

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This is not only the dumbest, and most ignorant post I've ever seen on here, it isn't based in a single fact. Iran is a Superpower? Lmao. I guess you haven't studied much, and know little of history. From Chancellorsville, to the Bay of Pigs, to Operation Tiger, where we killed our own people, to Korea, and Vietnam. Shall I continue to call out your ignorance?

We killed upwards of 450 of our own troops during Operation Tiger. Let's add in Iran during Carter, and we lost 118 Americans at the Bay of Pigs. You are frking clueless, and know nothing of history. Shall I throw in the single greatest fiasco regarding British troops in WWI? Shall I continue to show your ignorance. GB lost 30,000 during the Gallipoli campaign. Try harder. Good Lord, all for TDS.
You are citing military actions. I’m discussing political decisions. Trump decided to tear apart the deal we had in place with Iran. He decided to then attack Iran. Now, Iran knows the mere threat of closing down the straight can stress and even collapse the global economy.
 

UrHuckleberry

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Absolutely, unlike your ilk. Over 14,000 sorties have been flown. I never said numbers regarding drones or rockets, you did.

Iran has lost over $160 billion in military losses. Over 50 bases destroyed, no Navy, and no Air Force remains. Done playing with clowns like you who believe we haven't done damage to Iran. Go post some more Iranian propaganda.
You are making statements, not providing first and secondary sources.
 

GDead_Tiger

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Absolutely, unlike your ilk. Over 14,000 sorties have been flown. I never said numbers regarding drones or rockets, you did.

Iran has lost over $160 billion in military losses. Over 50 bases destroyed, no Navy, and no Air Force remains. Done playing with clowns like you who believe we haven't done damage to Iran. Go post some more Iranian propaganda.
Dang that’s crazy. Why do they control the Strait then
 

RockyMtNole

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Can you post a link by chance?


Below is the text of the 14-point draft memorandum, as seen by Bloomberg News.

  1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.
  1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.
  2. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.
  3. Immediately upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, the United States Lift the naval blockade and prevent any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and restore traffic within a maximum of 30 days to its full capacity; the traffic of ships shall be proportional to the pre-war volume of traffic on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.
  4. Upon signing this Memorandum of Understanding, the Islamic Republic of Iran will immediately take steps to ensure that the movement of merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed within 30 days to the pre-war volume, taking into account the need for the removal of technical obstacles and the neutralization of mines by Iran.
  5. The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, While ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days.
  6. The United States commits to ending, on a schedule to be agreed upon as part of the final agreement, all types of sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, including resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary.
  7. The Islamic Republic of Iran reiterates that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States have agreed that the fate of enriched material and the fate of all other mutually agreed nuclear-related issues, including Iran's nuclear needs, will be adequately addressed in a final agreement; the final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article.
  8. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that, pending a final agreement, they will maintain the status quo: Iran will maintain the status quo on its nuclear program, and the United States will not impose new sanctions on Iran or strengthen its forces in the region.
  9. The United States undertakes that immediately after the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and until the date of the lifting of sanctions, the United States Treasury Department will issue waivers for exports of Iranian crude oil, petrochemical products and their derivatives, and all related services, including banking, insurance, transportation, and the like.
  10. The United States undertakes that, in light of the progress of negotiations towards a final agreement, frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available. These funds, whether held in the master account or transferred, will be used for any final beneficiary payment determined by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will be fully available for use. The United States undertakes to issue all necessary permits and licenses on this basis.
  11. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that an implementation mechanism will be established to oversee the successful implementation of and future commitment to the Final Agreement.
  12. Following the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and upon receipt of assurances regarding the commencement of implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this Memorandum of Understanding, and the continued implementation of these steps, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States will enter into negotiations for a Final Agreement solely with respect to the remaining Articles.
  13. The final agreement will be approved through a binding resolution of the UN Security Council.










 

UrHuckleberry

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Below is the text of the 14-point draft memorandum, as seen by Bloomberg News.

  1. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.
  2. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.
  3. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.
  4. Immediately upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, the United States Lift the naval blockade and prevent any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and restore traffic within a maximum of 30 days to its full capacity; the traffic of ships shall be proportional to the pre-war volume of traffic on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.
  5. Upon signing this Memorandum of Understanding, the Islamic Republic of Iran will immediately take steps to ensure that the movement of merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed within 30 days to the pre-war volume, taking into account the need for the removal of technical obstacles and the neutralization of mines by Iran.
  6. The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, While ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days.
  7. The United States commits to ending, on a schedule to be agreed upon as part of the final agreement, all types of sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, including resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary.
  8. The Islamic Republic of Iran reiterates that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States have agreed that the fate of enriched material and the fate of all other mutually agreed nuclear-related issues, including Iran's nuclear needs, will be adequately addressed in a final agreement; the final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article.
  9. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that, pending a final agreement, they will maintain the status quo: Iran will maintain the status quo on its nuclear program, and the United States will not impose new sanctions on Iran or strengthen its forces in the region.
  10. The United States undertakes that immediately after the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and until the date of the lifting of sanctions, the United States Treasury Department will issue waivers for exports of Iranian crude oil, petrochemical products and their derivatives, and all related services, including banking, insurance, transportation, and the like.
  11. The United States undertakes that, in light of the progress of negotiations towards a final agreement, frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available. These funds, whether held in the master account or transferred, will be used for any final beneficiary payment determined by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will be fully available for use. The United States undertakes to issue all necessary permits and licenses on this basis.
  12. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that an implementation mechanism will be established to oversee the successful implementation of and future commitment to the Final Agreement.
  13. Following the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and upon receipt of assurances regarding the commencement of implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this Memorandum of Understanding, and the continued implementation of these steps, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States will enter into negotiations for a Final Agreement solely with respect to the remaining Articles.
  14. The final agreement will be approved through a binding resolution of the UN Security Council.









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hawkeyetraveler

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This is nothing but a lie. Iran has literally, no nuclear capability to build a bomb. Show what remains with real facts. Can't wait for your Aaron Rupar post. Lmao.
I agree Iran has no capabilities to build a nuke. By the way, that was the case after we bombed them last year. And it was the case at the end of February before Trump decided to go to war. And it was the case when you wrote these posts:

President Trump:

Red line in the sand. Iran must turn over enriched uranium.
If the deal goes through, done through the U.S. blockade, Iran will give up all of their highly enriched uranium.
It was the case before we spent billions. Before soldiers died. Before we depleted Patriot missiles. Before we created economic havoc. Glad you’ve come around to the point that lib media has been telling you for months.

Now maybe you should put some blame on the man who wasted your taxpayer dollars and severely harmed America’s standing on the world stage.