Military Strikes on Iran Imminent

Hotshoe

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Please tell me how this is a good thing for us? Will this make gas cheaper for me? Will this put money in my pocket?
Going back to Bill Clinton, he was worried about terrorism and nucleur weapons regarding Iran. Every president has committed to not allowing Iran to obtain nucleur weapons.

The terrorist threat from Iran is massively reduced, as is any probability of nuclear weapons. If the deal goes through, done through the U.S. blockade, Iran will give up all of their highly enriched uranium.

Fact is, you only care or say anything about gas prices when a Republican is president. This was a very small price to pay for decades worth of a neutered Iran. All in less than 3 months.

Liberals, what about me??? Y'all never play the long game. Y'all would have turtled up at the battle of 1st Bull Run. All for politics. Meanwhile, Europe has been exposed as the gutless wonders they are. Meanwhile, y'all never called out Biden for his ridiculous spending and inflation. Even Harvard attributed high inflation to Biden's spending.
 

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How is gas cheaper than it was 2 months ago? How does selling this oil help me and you? The Green New deal was awful I am not defending that. I voted for Trump dude.
If you actually voted for Trump, then how can you not see the long game here? It's like folks bitching about the stock market on a daily basis. Look at the last 40 years of the market. Meanwhile, folks whine like babies when it drops 500 points. This is basic economics 101.
 

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Because Israel finally honored the terms of the cease fire. Iran seems to have acted very logical through out this war.
Get real. Iran has never once acted reasonable. If so, why did Iran attack the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordon, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, and specifically attack civilian populations. Iran has never once honored anything, simply stalled.

Now, tell me how religious fanatics are ever reasonable until they're on their knees. Meanwhile, they're still hanging innocent people. So reasonable. Good grief.
 
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😂😂 Iran is now saying that everything trump said today is a lie. That tracks, because everything Trump says is a lie.
Of course, being the pathetic Socialist you are, you would take the side of religious terrorist fanatics as gospel.

Hey, did America block the Strait? Yep. Is it crippling Iran? Yep. Is it now open because of the U.S. Navy? Absolutely. Jesus, you should move to Iran and tell them your gay. Send us a letter so we know how it went.

P.S. Trump was the very 1st president to campaign supporting gay marriage. Neither Clinton, or Obama do that.
 

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Going back to Bill Clinton, he was worried about terrorism and nucleur weapons regarding Iran. Every president has committed to not allowing Iran to obtain nucleur weapons.

The terrorist threat from Iran is massively reduced, as is any probability of nuclear weapons. If the deal goes through, done through the U.S. blockade, Iran will give up all of their highly enriched uranium.

Fact is, you only care or say anything about gas prices when a Republican is president. This was a very small price to pay for decades worth of a neutered Iran. All in less than 3 months.

Liberals, what about me??? Y'all never play the long game. Y'all would have turtled up at the battle of 1st Bull Run. All for politics. Meanwhile, Europe has been exposed as the gutless wonders they are. Meanwhile, y'all never called out Biden for his ridiculous spending and inflation. Even Harvard attributed high inflation to Biden's spending.
First I am a conservative. Always have been. Complained about Biden’s inflation constantly. I was asking what is good about the original post regarding the US exporting all of this oil as if that is a big win. Explain to me how Exxon exporting oil is good for you and me.
 

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Get real. Iran has never once acted reasonable. If so, why did Iran attack the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordon, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, and specifically attack civilian populations. Iran has never once honored anything, simply stalled.

Now, tell me how religious fanatics are ever reasonable until they're on their knees. Meanwhile, they're still hanging innocent people. So reasonable. Good grief.
It is extremely obvious why Iran attacked those Countries. They can not attack mainland US. So they attack US allies. We bomb their oil infrastructure they bomb the gulf allies oil infrastructure. They will wreck the global economy to survive. They know this war is not political popular in the US. They cause enough pain for US citizens and the war stops. You don’t see the logic in this?
 

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First I am a conservative. Always have been. Complained about Biden’s inflation constantly. I was asking what is good about the original post regarding the US exporting all of this oil as if that is a big win. Explain to me how Exxon exporting oil is good for you and me.
not who you asked, but I'll try...if prices are determined by supply and demand...prices are up because supplies from Iran have declined..if US can fill part of that reduced supply then that should help alleviate price pressure.

That should mean our gas prices will stabilize or come down
 

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not who you asked, but I'll try...if prices are determined by supply and demand...prices are up because supplies from Iran have declined..if US can fill part of that reduced supply then that should help alleviate price pressure.

That should mean our gas prices will stabilize or come down
We are already producing as much oil as we can. We don’t have spare refining capacity
 
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It is extremely obvious why Iran attacked those Countries. They can not attack mainland US. So they attack US allies. We bomb their oil infrastructure they bomb the gulf allies oil infrastructure. They will wreck the global economy to survive. They know this war is not political popular in the US. They cause enough pain for US citizens and the war stops. You don’t see the logic in this?
might have seemed logical at the time, but all it did was strengthen the resolve of those attacked countries to push against Iran. None of us know the back channel or direct conversation from the white house with leaders of those nations, but I'd wager there were some..some negative and others positive.
 

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might have seemed logical at the time, but all it did was strengthen the resolve of those attacked countries to push against Iran. None of us know the back channel or direct conversation from the white house with leaders of those nations, but I'd wager there were some..some negative and others positive.
I’m not so sure. There were reports that Qatar was basically trying to pay Iran off to leave them alone. Also I think most of the gulf states realized that once this war started it needed to be finished or else they would have to live with a belligerent Iran. The attacks on them didn’t really change the equation. We had the luxury of going home, but this is their neighbor.
 
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It is extremely obvious why Iran attacked those Countries. They can not attack mainland US. So they attack US allies. We bomb their oil infrastructure they bomb the gulf allies oil infrastructure. They will wreck the global economy to survive. They know this war is not political popular in the US. They cause enough pain for US citizens and the war stops. You don’t see the logic in this?
Iran attacking their neighbors was the single dumbest thing they've ever done.
 

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We are already producing as much oil as we can. We don’t have spare refining capacity

I’m not so sure. There were reports that Qatar was basically trying to pay Iran off to leave them alone. Also I think most of the gulf states realized that once this war started it needed to be finished or else they would have to live with a belligerent Iran. The attacks on them didn’t really change the equation. We had the luxury of going home, but this is their neighbor.
there were also reports that saudi was willing to pony up $100billion and a bunch of other goodies if the US finished the job.

We'll likely never know the full extent of the conversations between trump and the leaders of those countries. Hopefully all will work out for the US.
 

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😂😂 Iran is now saying that everything trump said today is a lie. That tracks, because everything Trump says is a lie.
f* … I don’t like that saggy old sh*t bag either, but you have to be a special kind of pompous pretentious ******* to laugh and believe ANYTHING Iran says. Last week they said they had sunk the Abraham Lincoln and were using videos from CoD to show how well they were doing. They didn’t even scrub the Kill points scored from the footage.

Seriously GFSF.
 
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HUGE: Iran has officially agreed to let the U.S. collect and remove their leftover uranium.

As President Trump said, we’re bringing it right back here to the United States. This was the missing piece to the whole puzzle.

Trump is getting it done while everyone else said it was impossible. Promises Made, Promises Kept! 🇺🇸
 
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🔻 BREAKING: THE COMMANDER HAS SPOKEN.

IRAN OPENED THE STRAIT.
ISRAEL IS NOW PROHIBITED FROM BOMBING LEBANON.
The U.S. takes ALL nuclear dust. No money exchanged.

One man just rewrote the entire Middle East in 48 hours.

No UN. No NATO. No globalist permission.
JUST THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

They said he would start World War III.
He just ended three conflicts in one week.

The old world order is finished. The new era has begun.

CODE: PEACE-THROUGH-STRENGTH / NEW-ORDER-ACTIVATED / CHECKMATE

♟️
 

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so either the Iranians can't be trusted to keep their word, trump was mistaken in his assessment of what the Iranians agreed to, or Iranians really do want to be bombed back to the stone age.

look into your heart, Ned. Look into your heart. I think you know exactly which scenario unfolded here. It makes no sense that Iran Yesterday would just suddenly and magically capitulate all of their demands to Trump. And then today reverse that for no reason. Once Trump came out and said all the stuff that they agreed to they immediately said that’s not true. Trump’s whole leadership and political style is just to lie lie lie so many times about the same thing that people start to believe him. Just look at @TigerGrowls
 
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The issue I believe is that you have a fractured government/c2 structure. The IRGC is the death to Jews and Infidels (especially America the Great Satan) cult. They undoubtedly will be at odds with any of the more moderates who might be wanting to be more normal and negotiate away their nuke weapons program for real.

Japan at the end of WWII had the same type of true believers who wanted the war to continue but their plot failed. We also got the emperor to keep the people in check so we didnt have to deal with their death cult. The Nazis (the real ones that were in Germany) had a plan to continue with an insurgency against the occupation, but that never went anywhere because we were brutal in dealing with incidents and the German people were done. Beaten. Had no appetite for the beat down to continue.

the IRGC isn’t quite beaten enough. I still think we’re going have to thump them again before the factions within Iran get closer to being on the same page.
 
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The issue I believe is that you have a fractured government/c2 structure. The IRGC is the death to Jews and Infidels (especially America the Great Satan) cult. They undoubtedly will be at odds with any of the more moderates who might be wanting to be more normal and negotiate away their nuke weapons program for real.

Japan at the end of WWII had the same type of true believers who wanted the war to continue but their plot failed. We also got the emperor to keep the people in check so we didnt have to deal with their death cult. The Nazis (the real ones that were in Germany) had a plan to continue with an insurgency against the occupation, but that never went anywhere because we were brutal in dealing with incidents and the German people were done. Beaten. Had no appetite for the beat down to continue.

the IRGC isn’t quite beaten enough. I still think we’re going have to thump them again before the factions within Iran get closer to being on the same page.

that is somewhat true. I read that regional commanders are making the decisions because the commanders above them don’t want to use communications for fear that Israel will kill them when they do. Israel’s ability to triangulate people based on communications has been impressive.

That said, another huge part of it is the fact that Trump just likes to lie as ******* *** off to push the market up and drive oil down and then we always find out the truth after the market closes.
 

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there were also reports that saudi was willing to pony up $100billion and a bunch of other goodies if the US finished the job.

We'll likely never know the full extent of the conversations between trump and the leaders of those countries. Hopefully all will work out for the US.

The war against Iran by the US is one Hell of a GOOD INVESTMENT

47 years of having to build and have military ready to respond to Iran and its proxies globally

The Libs on here don’t get it and never will however the cost of this action has already been promised to be covered by the Gulf States

THEY ALL WANTED IRAN NEUTERED AND DEFANGED

THE US HAS MADE THE WORLD SAFER AND PROTECTED US VITAL INTERESTS IN THE GULF

FOR THOSE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THINGS TRUMP

TRUMP has beaten all of you mouthing breathing garbage dumps

GO DONALD TRUMP GREAT JOB

THE MIDDLE EAST LOVES YOU
 

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The war against Iran by the US is one Hell of a GOOD INVESTMENT

47 years of having to build and have military ready to respond to Iran and its proxies globally

The Libs on here don’t get it and never will however the cost of this action has already been promised to be covered by the Gulf States

THEY ALL WANTED IRAN NEUTERED AND DEFANGED

THE US HAS MADE THE WORLD SAFER AND PROTECTED US VITAL INTERESTS IN THE GULF

FOR THOSE WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THINGS TRUMP

TRUMP has beaten all of you mouthing breathing garbage dumps

GO DONALD TRUMP GREAT JOB

THE MIDDLE EAST LOVES YOU

So, mission accomplished?
 

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that is somewhat true. I read that regional commanders are making the decisions because the commanders above them don’t want to use communications for fear that Israel will kill them when they do. Israel’s ability to triangulate people based on communications has been impressive.

That said, another huge part of it is the fact that Trump just likes to lie as ******* *** off to push the market up and drive oil down and then we always find out the truth after the market closes.





The Financial Times is reporting something that should be front-page news everywhere.

Pete Hegseth didn’t just help design the Iran war. He championed it publicly, cheered it on, and sold it to the American people. And according to the Financial Times, while his own department was in the final stages of preparing to launch it, his broker at Morgan Stanley was attempting to make a multimillion-dollar investment in the defense companies that build the weapons we used to fight it.

The investment didn’t ultimately go through, but only because the fund wasn’t yet available on Morgan Stanley’s platform. Not because anyone stopped it.

If these reports are accurate, the Secretary of Defense was positioned to profit from a war he helped start, using information no private investor could ever have. That is a profound betrayal of every service member he commands, and of every American who trusted this Administration with their national security.

No one should be cashing in on privileged information while lives and national security are on the line.
 

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Come on Piggy. Tell me what the plan was. Show me the ROI on the $100 billion we spent to blow up a lot of targets in Iran. We did not get regime change, new leaders yes, but they are signing from the same music book. We have not ended their desire for nuclear enrichment, which has always been the issue right? If you can enrich you could keep enriching to weapons grade. They have not agreed to give up proxies. They have not agreed to limit ballistic missiles.

I don’t like Iran or their regime. I also think this has been a total disaster and that Trump has wasted so much political capital on it that he will be dead in the water for the next 2.5 years. We had so many domestic issues that needed attention and he has gone off to the Middle East again.
Why can't you afford $9.99 a month? You say one thing in the morning and another in the afternoon.

I don't care what your political opinions are, but this is too obvious. Y'all are sharing an account. One of you is conservative, the other one is not.

This is truly PATHETIC.
 
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Why can't you afford $9.99 a month? You say one thing in the morning and another in the afternoon.

I don't care what your political opinions are, but this is to obvious. Y'all are sharing an account. One of you is conservative, the other one is not.

This is truly PATHETIC.
What are you even saying? I have been against this war from the get go. How am I saying one thing in the morning and another in the afternoon? I was asking piggy to explain to me the plan. The 4d chess plan.
 

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What are you even saying? I have been against this war from the get go. How am I saying one thing in the morning and another in the afternoon? I was asking piggy to explain to me the plan. The 4d chess plan.
these people are really sick. it's one thing to be stupid which many of them are, but the extra element of cultism makes it extra pathetic.
 

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What are you even saying? I have been against this war from the get go. How am I saying one thing in the morning and another in the afternoon? I was asking piggy to explain to me the plan. The 4d chess plan.
Hambone thinks Trump can do no wrong so if you aren't showering him with hosannas at all times, you might as well be a shitlib in his eyes. That's what he's trying to say. You must be in lockstep with him at all times. No stepping off the reservation.
 

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Why can't you afford $9.99 a month? You say one thing in the morning and another in the afternoon.

I don't care what your political opinions are, but this is to obvious. Y'all are sharing an account. One of you is conservative, the other one is not.

This is truly PATHETIC.
I love everyone chirping about how the gas prices are not a big deal. $10/month. I am a real estate developer and we are seeing massive price increases on anything that runs on diesel. Dump Trucks and Concrete trucks get 4-5 miles to the gallon. Sitework equipment just burns the stuff. Asphalt index is tied directly to oil prices. We are already over $10,000 since the war started in fuel surcharges. I am glad to accept donations for the Tehran Tax I am paying.
 

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I love everyone chirping about how the gas prices are not a big deal. $10/month. I am a real estate developer and we are seeing massive price increases on anything that runs on diesel. Dump Trucks and Concrete trucks get 4-5 miles to the gallon. Sitework equipment just burns the stuff. Asphalt index is tied directly to oil prices. We are already over $10,000 since the war started in fuel surcharges. I am glad to accept donations for the Tehran Tax I am paying.
we've already agreed, or I thought we'd agreed, that the war was increasing fuel prices and as a result inflation was higher...I'm not sure anyone arguing the opposite isn't just trolling. When fuel prices go up, cost of just about everything goes up...that's what we said when gas was $5/gal during Biden and it's just as true now with gas at $4/gal.

I thought you real estate developers were all in the 1% category and were part of the "bad guys". :)