Evidence? Why are your figures correct?
The premise is the same. psu is in trouble if they can't pay what other schools are paying for premium talent....at QB or any other position.
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The premise is the same. psu is in trouble if they can't pay what other schools are paying for premium talent....at QB or any other position.
The BOT sealed Penn State's future with NIL way back in 2011. They were naive to believe their negligent actions would not impact the future of the football program.
How many billionaire CEOs does Penn State have? I count one.
I agree that Clifford was probably a better QB than a lot of PSU fans give him credit for.
But the issue was that HCJF forced him to be a "run first" guy - which he definitely did not.
But PSU is killing it wrt fund-raising and philanthropy (both ICA specific and overall university wide)
Or so I am so often told
Pegula isn’t the only billionaire.
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So there's 2 billionaires and at least 2 with wealth in the hundreds of millions.
We disagree on Franklin asking him to be aggressive in the run game, but we likely agree on the most important aspect of Cliff - he was a darn good qb.
My personal opinion is that Cliff gets the 2024 team to the natty beating ND and quite possibly OSU in the regular season.There’s more, I’m sure. That was just a quick search of PSU alum CEOs. I’m sure there may be other uber wealthy PSU alums who aren’t CEOs.
Hazy is a UCLA grad. Not Penn State. Your "AI" is hallucinating.
So the count is currently still at "1", not that it matters
I don't think we're losing 18 year old recruits because of something that was in the news when they were 3 yrs old.
So are you using Linkedin or Forbes as a source? Forbes agrees with me. If you're using Linkedin, there is little hope for you.
Billionaire is the word. And when you track them down, you might ask them why they aren't contributing to NIL.
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So, what are the tea leaves saying going forward? Dean is gone. Taylor’s visiting Nebraska after all and radio silence from Hall
What football team do you watch? Clifford was never a run first QB. LOL
The BWICAC loudly booed Clifford when he was introduced as a starter. Many expressed here that Clifford was "in the way.'"We disagree on Franklin asking him to be aggressive in the run game, but we likely agree on the most important aspect of Cliff - he was a darn good qb.
Allar should start the moment he set foot on campus. LOL Many of the same experts are still making football judgements here.
In summary, Dean hurt really badly as he was the top prospect for us, Georgia is a thorn in our side that simply follows our scouting, don’t believe a word these players say as it is meaningless when a bigger bag shows up, and even though Campbell has done very well with WRs at ISU in terms of college production and the nfl draft, there is a really bad stain on PSU for not developing wr’s over the last several seasons. We need to prove to college football we can throw the freaking ball to WRs this season. Taylor has been steadfast in his July commitment date. I think Hall’s date is next week. Taylor has been vocal that our staff have been highly supportive of him checking in with him often in terms of helping him out with some of his personal struggles, but on the other hand, it seemed surprising that he’s taking the Nebraska trip. Really nobody knows at WR. We were so confident before Dean left that we told Baldwin (a promising lower rated prospect we heavily recruited) there was no more room here so he committed to Pitt.
It doesn’t help that Pauley bailed so quickly after getting here. So, in summary, we went from thinking we had four WRs in this class to potentially only getting one of these guys, who doesn’t even play traditional 11v11 football. He plays 8v8 in BFE Iowa.
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A quick look at Georgia's WR depth chart:
Wiley (SO) 4* .94
Prothro (FR) 4* 97
Dandridge (FR) 4* 95
They also have four freshmen WRs rated 3* 89
Georgia is absolutely loaded with young highly rated WRs. It makes me question why Dean would flip. Is Georgia's staff that much more impressive? I can't imagine it's NIL. If I can believe what I read GA has $48m compared to only $34m for PSU but PSU is only looking to pay a couple of players. Georgia is already paying big for a half dozen.
If Taylor and/or Hall dont come to PSU any chance they reach out for this kid? https://247sports.com/player/jamar-taylor-46157712/
Big, long strider, catches the ball in traffic. Maybe not quite twitchy at that size but I think he is better than his ranking.
Big, long strider, catches the ball in traffic. Maybe not quite twitchy at that size but I think he is better than his ranking.
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I just believe these kids want to play in the SEC and the NFL. Can you find a better program in the country that places as many players in the NFL?
I just looked it up. Georgis is 2nd with 57 players in the NFL. PSU is 7th with 38.
I understand that a kid from Tennessee might prefer the SEC. I'm mixed on thinking about NFL prospects. Yes Georgia has more in the NFL but PSU isn't a slouch. But none of that matters if you can't get on the field in college. Dean will have to beat out a lot more 4* talent at GA than he would have at PSU.
I don’t think anyone anticipates only landing Blum. We are still in a good spot with Taylor and Hall, but again, who the heck knows until they all sign in December. We must show an ability to use the WRs in the 2026 season. It has been absolutely brutal since Parker Washington left for the nfl and until proven otherwise our competitors will use that poor track record against us, even with a new regime in charge.
We can and will stretch financially for some players that are best fits. Guertin is a best fit example who got 7 figures multiyear deal. In his case Lynn wants big DE’s that can play run and pass and can play earlier as a freshman. The small edges in his defense are only used situationally on true passing downs, so we will not stretch financially for a Sesay type smaller edge. We have no financial ability to stockpile unproven talent. Georgia has the dollars to do in nil what they did pre-nil, stockpile talent. What is crazy is that Campbell’s WRs have more 1,000 yard seasons than Kirby’s WRs since 2020!
FWIW: You're arguing with the wrong guy.
It was LMTLION saying that.
I - like you - was telling him he was all wet.
Maybe Tom should start with you first. Asking the moderator to drop someone who disagrees with you. How nice.
Off topic but I remember Clifford refused to run when his ribs were bruised. He would throw the ball away at first sight of a pass rush. That OT loss to Illinois was a joke. Veilleux would have probably won that game easily. If not blame the staff for not having a backup ready to play.
The loss to Iowa stands out. Clifford went out. The backup came in and did not look ready to play.
Well, at this point in time, Georgia is viewed as one of the top 5 programs in the country with a lot of momentum. For whatever reasons, many kids want to want to be apart of success and championships, regardless of their contributions.
Lots of players have the size to play college football but never pan out. Makes me think about the time Joe did commentary during Blue White games. When a highly recruited DL from Jersey who had never done much and was about to enter his 5th season made a nice play and George said to Joe that it reminded him of an Alabama player named Hand who was a two time All American Joe said well they are both 6’8” and weigh 280 pounds. Please forgive me if I want to see Guerin and all the other Campbell recruits actually play first before I evaluate and especially crown them.
Well I will go on record as predicting Grunkenmeyer will be a better QB than Becht. Interesting how Grunk played well while playing against 3 of the best defenses in college football in his first 6 starts while being tutored by the same QB coach as Allar and who will be his QB coach at VaTech.
If this is the explanation how much did PSU offer each of three and how much are Nebraska, Tennessee and Georgia offering. I thought I read when Campbell was hired that he would have a boatload of NIL money available.