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shu67

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I’ve been making some clearly humor based comments to keep things light in the midst of the offseason grind. But on all seriousness do you know how many good JUCOs there have been in high major hoops? Doesn’t mean he’s Larry Johnson obviously, but JUCO NPOY even at that level isn’t anything to sneeze at.
Just saying that in the past the SHU forums and that includes the forums BEFORE this one, scoffed at the thought of recruiting JUCO players. It was "GOD" forbid we went that route. Some long-time forum members might even remember those days! So what has changed?
 

HallGuy2323

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I’ve been making some clearly humor based comments to keep things light in the midst of the offseason grind. But on all seriousness do you know how many good JUCOs there have been in high major hoops? Doesn’t mean he’s Larry Johnson obviously, but JUCO NPOY even at that level isn’t anything to sneeze at.
My only question is why was he still available this late at the most premium position?
 

SPK145

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Copeland is a good get. I like what he can bring. He'll be a matchup nightmare against some teams and a bad matchup against others. A significant get? Depends on your definition of significant. I'm sticking with a good get not a significant get.

JUCO basketball is now terrible and has been since NIL. See Carino's article, the last 3 JUCO POY's have been average for mid-majors.
 

SPK145

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Kabba has better rebounding metrics than Hines and Payne. I would take both over Kaba based on what else they can do.
Hines = 15.3 OR%, 19.9% DR
Payne = 15.5% OR, 21.2% DR
Kabba = 14.4% OR, 22.0% DR

Kabba was at a much, much lower level of competition.

I'm not high on him.
 
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Seton75

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Just saying that in the past the SHU forums and that includes the forums BEFORE this one, scoffed at the thought of recruiting JUCO players. It was "GOD" forbid we went that route. Some long-time forum members might even remember those days! So what has changed?
They were probably mad when we got Ollie Taylor too. lol
 

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He was not available. He told the school he was coming in early May. But the agent/lawyer he hired was a very tough negotiator and it took about a month to close the deal.
 
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Copeland is a good get. I like what he can bring. He'll be a matchup nightmare against some teams and a bad matchup against others. A significant get? Depends on your definition of significant. I'm sticking with a good get not a significant get.

JUCO basketball is now terrible and has been since NIL. See Carino's article, the last 3 JUCO POY's have been average for mid-majors.
right? anyone who is worth their salt shouldn't be in juco these days. the NIL + transfer rules has a home for anyone. I mean professional guys even found a way to play a few minutes this year.

the wheels have been off, there's only one reason to be in juco now
 
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Halldan

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JD is correct. I just banned a person who has been trolling the site for years with his negativity. But he never once name called, which is a no no for this site.

I know you have the best of intentions regarding the program. But you must be warned to stop the name calling. Support the program in other ways. But don't force our hand to do something we don't want to do.
 

radecicco

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My only question is why was he still available this late at the most premium position?
Because he committed four plus weeks ago but his agent was a stickler regarding the contract.
right? anyone who is worth their salt shouldn't be in juco these days. the NIL + transfer rules has a home for anyone. I mean professional guys even found a way to play a few minutes this year.

the wheels have been off, there's only one reason to be in juco now
Pray tell, what’s that reason?
 

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Because he committed four plus weeks ago but his agent was a stickler regarding the contract.

Pray tell, what’s that reason?
Use your imagination. If a player has talent and can't land on a team in this NIL climate, maybe there's something else that coaches are reluctant to touch.

Not saying that's the issue with this player, but I do think it's logical to wonder. I hope he is a great player for us with no off-court issues. But getting good players with no issues from JUCO nowadays is probably more the exception than the rule.
 

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Can't believe two posters thought this was a clever response. Oh, well.......
Up to 6 it looks like. It’s obviously for humor purposes playing off board stereotypes, banter and some of the funny boardisms. I’ve posted I like the “get” and the roster generally even if I’m not as bullish as some. Of course my opinion doesn’t matter and ultimately it’s about performance and wins/losses.