Forbes ?? Candidate for SC

[oldwell]

Well the AD In waiting is a money guy from NASCAR right? Well
He needs to get this figured out and get both programs the money they need.

I agree

 

[jdHeel49]

You do absolutely everything you need to to keep him. His agent is soooooo happy right now.

 

[Tarheeldw21]

When you have a coach as good as Coach forbes... OF COURSE he will be the choice of many many schools. Butthey are not HIS choice.

I don’t know man. I’m not saying he is going to SC but I do think he is entertaining the idea.

 

[unctar2001]

And because of that, the men’s basketball program at UNC receives a greater % of rev share relatively than basketball programs at other schools.

Y’all are going back and forth and making very good points on how this Wild West model isn’t sustainable in general for college athletics.

When all this started out it was like, what’s the big deal, players should get paid, and now, it’s like, holy bleep, how the crap are we going to fund this without a few resident billionaires?

It’s an insane asylum in its current makeup

 

[unctar2001]

I am almost 100
Percent sure Greg Barnes wrote an article a while back saying Carolina was fully funding every sport. If Carolina is fully funding baseball that would be the full 34 scholarships.

When I first read this I was like, Dadgum, dude is almost 100 and on message boards

 

[oldwell]

Y’all are going back and forth and making very good points on how this Wild West model isn’t sustainable in general for college athletics.

When all this started out it was like, what’s the big deal, players should get paid, and now, it’s like, holy bleep, how the crap are we going to fund this without a few resident billionaires?

It’s an insane asylum in its current makeup

Right and the solution in theory is pretty simple. Just put in a cap.

 

[unctar2001]

Right and the solution in theory is pretty simple. Just put in a cap.

It’s very simple but the NCAA has no teeth or manners of enforcement. The only way to do that is to do what none of the suits want and why this is the way it is which is make them employees with the same collective bargaining structure you see in pro sports.

Meanwhile, in trying to play this untenable game for really two major revenue sports, you eliminate opportunity across the board for kids that excel in track and field and things like that bc universities can’t keep up. Many are cutting sports or have some big time fat cats but in general across the college landscape, many more people are getting screwed than benefiting.

They all basically jumped in the deep end without knowing how to swim

 

[GregBarnes]

I am almost 100
Percent sure Greg Barnes wrote an article a while back saying Carolina was fully funding every sport. If Carolina is fully funding baseball that would be the full 34 scholarships.

Correct, that's the stated goal for the athletic department. That's a significant amount of new money flowing to the baseball program. We did a story a year or two ago in which Forbes noted that NIL deals were primarily used to cover tuition costs so players wouldn't graduate with student debt.

 

[GregBarnes]

People are acting like we didn’t get a $9 million donation this year. I’m sure Coach had some say in how a gift that large was going to be allocated. The program is moving toward operating out of its own endowments budget, which is coach building for long-term relevance and stability.

Greg: Baseball's $9 Million Gift Highlights UNC's Financial Model for Supporting its 28 Sports

UNC's two-pronged approach of endowments and scholarships are providing sustainability to its non-revenue sports.

www.on3.com

 

[GregBarnes]

And will close by saying we need to figure a way, ANY WAY, to give Coach more than $500k in NIL or this run is going to be short lived and he could leave for the same reason O'Connor HAD to leave UVa. Lack of support for baseball. ECU has more NIL than we do. ECU!

ECU's athletic director on if the school will fully fund rev share: "Obviously, ECU, we’re going to be well under the cap. And I don’t anticipate us ever getting to the cap." In ECU's situation, it doesn't even need NIL, in theory, because it can use donations to help reach the rev share allotment. ECU is also only funding 25 scholarships for baseball.

 

[oldwell]

ECU's athletic director on if the school will fully fund rev share: "Obviously, ECU, we’re going to be well under the cap. And I don’t anticipate us ever getting to the cap." In ECU's situation, it doesn't even need NIL, in theory, because it can use donations to help reach the rev share allotment. ECU is also only funding 25 scholarships for baseball.

So, it’s probably a pretty fair assumption to make that ECU isn’t spending more on its roster than UNC?

 

[akillesheel17]

Oh I see I wasn’t supposed to bad mouth Banghart. She’s been here since 2019 and has absolutely nothing to show for it. I guess she got Hapring though…

she's shown just about as much as Forbes has, maybe slightly less - her local contemporaries are just more nationally relevant so a casual fan's impression is worse. if duke and state baseball were as good as their wbb programs we'd look at the two coaches nearly identically

 

[Tarheelgrad90]

I don’t know man. I’m not saying he is going to SC but I do think he is entertaining the idea.

He is not. But we'll just have to wait to see that.

 

[floridahighschoolcoach]

Here is my point if Carolina is funding 34 baseball scholarships and giving revenue share to baseball players then no NIL money is needed to cover tuition costs and thus less NIL/ revenue sharing goes further as the players do have to use money to pay their school bills?

 

[GregBarnes]

So, it’s probably a pretty fair assumption to make that ECU isn’t spending more on its roster than UNC?

I guess it's possible, but I'd imagine unlikely. It was last summer that Godwin was on social media accusing P4 schools of tampering with his players and lamenting the broken system of NIL.

 

[oldwell]

Here is my point if Carolina is funding 34 baseball scholarships and giving revenue share to baseball players then no NIL money is needed to cover tuition costs and thus less NIL/ revenue sharing goes further as the players do have to use money to pay their school bills?

I think you miswrote or I’m misunderstanding.

If they’re fully funding scholarships, any rev share or NIL that baseball gets can go directly to player “salaries”.

 

[Anon1714654600]

And will close by saying we need to figure a way, ANY WAY, to give Coach more than $500k in NIL or this run is going to be short lived and he could leave for the same reason O'Connor HAD to leave UVa. Lack of support for baseball. ECU has more NIL than we do. ECU!

No way you believe this. ECU been getting drilled and not having the ability to keep guys out the portal.

 

[TheManitowocManiac]

she's shown just about as much as Forbes has, maybe slightly less - her local contemporaries are just more nationally relevant so a casual fan's impression is worse. if duke and state baseball were as good as their wbb programs we'd look at the two coaches nearly identically

I disagree that she has shown as much as Forbes. Forbes has had 3 straight seasons of a top 5/top 10 type team, each year with a drastically different line up than before. He has 4 supers, 2 ACC championships, an Omaha appearance and the 2024 ACC COY since he took over in 2021. CB has been here since 2019 and her main accomplishment is what? 3 sweet sixteens. And if we’re talking local contemporaries- State, Wake and Coastal have all had deep runs in Omaha in the past 5 years.

 

[cc4unc]

Here is my point if Carolina is funding 34 baseball scholarships and giving revenue share to baseball players then no NIL money is needed to cover tuition costs and thus less NIL/ revenue sharing goes further as the players do have to use money to pay their school bills?

We have an endowment in excess of $500 million that covers our cost of athletic scholarships.

 

[oldwell]

I disagree that she has shown as much as Forbes. Forbes has had 3 straight seasons of a top 5/top 10 type team, each year with a drastically different line up than before. He has 4 supers, 2 ACC championships, an Omaha appearance and the 2024 ACC COY since he took over in 2021. CB has been here since 2019 and her main accomplishment is what? 3 sweet sixteens. And if we’re talking local contemporaries- State, Wake and Coastal have all had deep runs in Omaha in the past 5 years.

Multiple things can be true
- Forbes has been more successful than Banghart
- Banghart is accomplished and has done a great job lifting the women’s program back to relevance
- They both deserve to be supported

 

[unctarheel1984]

I agree

Yes! And when we get that email we need to respond by giving! The only question really is why we have to wait for the ask when we already know the need?

 

[unctarheel1984]

Y’all are going back and forth and making very good points on how this Wild West model isn’t sustainable in general for college athletics.

When all this started out it was like, what’s the big deal, players should get paid, and now, it’s like, holy bleep, how the crap are we going to fund this without a few resident billionaires?

It’s an insane asylum in its current makeup

 

[unctarheel1984]

Greg: Baseball's $9 Million Gift Highlights UNC's Financial Model for Supporting its 28 Sports

UNC's two-pronged approach of endowments and scholarships are providing sustainability to its non-revenue sports.

www.on3.com

Greg that story is from February, 2026. That is ancient history the way things move now!