There is absolutely no chance he would be here that long if he doesn't advance beyond the Sweet sixteen. I seriously doubt he could make it past four seasons at the very most without advancing farther than that. I never compared him to Cal at all in that post. I am guessing I have always had way more respect for Cal than what you do.
It's a completely different universe with the transfer portal. The eras are incomparable. At a school like UK it's possible to build a contender overnight.You seem totally misguided with this post. I started a thread that pointed out Donovan's record as well as 12 other coaches with NCAA titles since 1991 who had worse records than Pope their first two seasons at their respective schools.
Mark Pope 46-26 63.8% after 2 seasons at UK - Forums
Tom Izzo 33-28 54.1% after 2 seasons at MSU Dean Smith 23-15 60.5% after 2 seasons at UNCheat Billy Donovan 27-32 45.8% after 2 seasons at UF Coach K 27-30 47.4% after 2 seasons at Puke Nolan Richardson 31-30 50.8% after 2 at Arkansas Danny Hurley 35-29 54.7% after 2 seasons at UConn Todd...www.on3.com
It's an era of absolute free agency. It used to take years to turn around a program.
Gotta remember he's all about proof. You gotta prove it. Even if what you said is literally true.
Given the financial situation do you think it would be more or less likely for UK to ever load up a team like 2015 again? Just because we in theory are allowed to buy a team doesn't mean that it is any easier to assemble or retain talent at a place like UK than it used to be.
2015 will NEVER happen again
I agree with the first 35 minutes of your post
There's a whole lot of apples to oranges going on here (Jim Calhoun spent 14 seasons at Northeastern and Jay Wright 7 at Hofstra, as obvious examples), but beyond that, some things just leap out.
Calipari beat him with a worse team the season before. Do we need to go through the coaches that out-coached, out-schemed, and out-executed Pope this season? Heck, we were a couple seconds away from Matt McMahon doing that.
This a perfect example of why I originally went with only their first two seasons at the school they won a title. Pope's first two jobs were at lower opportunity schools as well. Utah Valley ST didn't even start their program until 2005 and BYU had only ever had sparse success. Other posters kept wanting to point out Pope had coached 9 seasons before he got here is why this was added.
Except they DID do elite things really quickly when the opportunity arose.
You guys are like a broken record of negativity. You also like pretending like I said things I haven't said and ignore things I have said repeatedly. When did I ever say anything about year 4? I have also said many times things must improve in the near future or he will be gone. You do understand I have nothing to do with his employment status?
Which has never actually been established to be working in our favor and may actually be working against us for all you know at this point. It is not the magic wand that obliterates all facts that you imagine it to be. The Herald Leader which has many times printed garbage to the detriment of UK put out the 22 million dollar myth while claiming it to be the highest in the nation. This has been used relentlessly as fuel on the fire of negativity.I could pick this argument apart blind folded, but if you need me to instead of doing it yourself, your not adept with men’s CBB enough either way.
But, here’s a bone to chew on… N.I.L.
You have terrible arguments...I see it isn't just from me .you never actually prove points...you have some decent opinions....but the way you talk like it's facts is hilarious. Let me buy you a beer Paul. I'll even drink it for you.
That both ended with middling SEC finishes, before Saturday of the SEC Tournament, with a complete blowout loss and not complete blowout but never really close loss, and non-competitive losses in the NCAA Tournament.
This. I appreciate the thought in these stats, but just looking at stats and numbers got us here. Pope himself said the goal is winning championships. So if that doesn't happen these numbers or any of the other moneyball numbers they spin don't either.
When properly understood, STATISTICS can tell a LOT MORE than most lay-people realize (full disclosure, I am a Statistician). They can take into account many contributing/confounding factors that affect outcomes. In the end, to most fans (me too) championships is what matters. Although with the championship determined in a OAD setup like it is, LUCK certainly plays a big role (more often than not the BEST team across the season does NOT win the championship).
I have provided the link many times. It should be easy enough for you to answer all these questions for yourself. It adds no extra weight to tournament games it only considers quality of opponent and margin. '95 is fourth all time despite no final four for example.
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Thanks, now I have.I have provided the link many times. It should be easy enough for you to answer all these questions for yourself. It adds no extra weight to tournament games it only considers quality of opponent and margin. '95 is fourth all time despite no final four for example.
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I never said it meant one team was better than another. It does provide a few curious anomalies due to difficulty of schedule and point differentials. There are no bonus points for how far you advance in tournaments. It is strictly a measure of how you fared against who you played. It isn't perfect but it is not biased and it is not totally worthless. It clearly emphasis how historically difficult Pope's first two schedules have been.
Another forgotten stat is how many teams laughed after playing UK saying they knew they’d quit.
