While it is not the kind of mark you want to make it is still better than a first round loss or worse yet missing the tournament all together.
Why is this board so hateful and anti UK
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I love bullet points. Not gonna lie. I add them whenever possible.
Hold up. How do say not specifically me when you are directly talking to me? lol. Kinda **** is that?
There is significant space between "everything is perfectly fine" and a gamma ray burst destroying all life on Earth.
Maybe try backing off the cataclysm just an inch or two and you may find more common ground than you think or at least that others have the best interests of the program in mind and just see things a little differently.
Lack of Amens to the dog piling and down right hatred from some doesn't mean someone hates Kentucky Basketball.
Disagreement does not automatically have to be escalated all the way to being enemies.
I also think it is pretty good "plot armor" to do nothing but run the program, players, and coaches through every puddle of mud that can be found year after year and even decades on end citing "standards".
One can go full bore U6 animosity in this piece as long as they can refrain from adding in a hearty "Go Cards".
If I hire someone with no history of accomplishment and a thin track record I would not be fool enough to think there would be no set backs or learning curve.
We hired this man knowing full well his highest ranked recruit ever was Collin Chandler and hadn't even coached him yet and that he had never won a tournament game. I get that is not reasonable fit but now to act surprised that there are stumbles is wild to me.
We made what can only be seen as a developmental hire which means some minimal level of patience and hand holding.
Wouldn't have been my call but pretending that wasn't the call and we took on some finished product is not rational.
Yes, I have hired completely inexperienced people but I did so knowing I was going to have to train and develop them not throw them into the fire and demand elite veteran results. Certainly, handwaiving growing pains would have been on me not the employee.
I never said it was way better but it is true and it is somewhat better and not an all time low.
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The other fan bases cannot approach the volume from our sheer numbers and some of our fans make Cowboys yahoos seem tame and kindly at times.
In fact, a lot of our fans are as supportive as Linebeard Nation some over decades now and many more have been straight up hostile to the program since 38-1 broke their minds and now the "fan" strictly by ripping players and slamming coaches.
Dude on here the other day was inferring Pope is a child molester and shouldn't be around children. That crap is way beyond the pale.
Replying to you but not talking about you, I worded the first reply lumping you in with the others out of habit. As said previously,it wasn't justified. I'm used to same small group of posters spewing bs, on their 100th soon to be banned account. I apologize for including in that group .
Yes it is somewhat better lol
At Kentuckys lowest we are still talked about more than R kansas
Did us a favor. The our AD turned around and fked us good. Even as bad as we make Pope seem....him and Cals record are almost identical the last two years.
Exactly, we are UK
Lowe could get to the rim & create pre injury, he also would try & play the hero & not look for open teammates, we basically had no true PG after he got hurt. We may have won a few more games having him but there's no proof really. I'm trying to be positive here, so far, the roster from the PG position looks better at least, both Diallo & Wilkens are true PG & can get to the rim & create their own shot from what I've watched. There seems to also be more 3 point shooting, on paper anyways. That's the positives imo. Finding a replacement for Oweh, there isn't one at the moment, the unknown is Hawthorne & how will Kam or N'daye look? No backup center at the moment either & what if Moreno stays in the draft? Lots of questions right now.
If you're taking low, personal shots at Pope the person--uk winning in basketball is the source of your life's happiness. Change my mind.
I would argue the opposite. I’d argue taking personal shots is the opposite of beneficial to winning, depending on where such behavior occurs. If it becomes visible to coaches, recruits, or basketball influencers, it directly harms the view of the fanbase and could have a negative effect on winning. Now, calling out bad coaching, poor performance, etc are absolutely within the bounds of fan hood in my opinion. Drawing a distinction intentionally there.
I love them, too. They are great to organize points being made in a variety of presentations and formats. Like you, I use them often.
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It's not hatred for UK, Pope or Barnhart on my end. I see the program going in the wrong direction so I'm gonna point it out
So you get your info from TikTok?
Again he said he was “hearing”, no proof just gossip. And why wouldn’t Pope Blame the fans? He blames everyone but himself. Also, I do appreciate the pic but TikTok? That shortness debunked. Sounds more like you’re a victim of fake news.
Because players don’t care about a forum, they don’t have time to follow every schools boards, they have lives, they have girls, they are getting paid millions so they don’t give 2 ***** what some hick from back home thinks when they’ll be here only 1 year. Well technically they won’t be here because Pope Is a whiff God. Also, this has been debunked so many times. What do you think happens exactly? Golden calls a recruit and says OMG like ya know you should totally read RR it’ll change your life forever and you’ll thank me later? Have you ever asked yourself, if they no longer care about the name on the front of the jersey would why they care what a group of fans say.
It makes perfect sense that rival coaches would show them this stuff. The players don't need to follow it themselves. Knowing a great many "fans" hate the coach and regularly bad mouth the players certainly would have an impact. You do realize they could easily text them links of this stuff? The negative memes alone that are made by Ky "fans" can have a definite effect. Saying things like "it doesn't matter if we get him or not we will still suck as long as Poop is coach" would certainly have a negative effect. Do you think our "fans" calling him Poop, dork, and whiff god constantly doesn't have a negative impact on recruiting?
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except for opposing fans everyone here loves UK. We hate terrible coaching and recruiting. We've been given all of that we can handle from Pope.
Floyd Street Freddie strikes again!Williamsanyway Just in case you’re unaware, Mark Pope is the current head coach. Take it to the bank. 14 plus losses and 10th in the sec. Florida Tennessee and Arkansas are loaded.
Not stopping til magic underwear clown is gone! Can’t stand pope! He’s a dufus! A jagoff!Floyd Street Freddie strikes again!
Worst coach is UK history! He’s Kenny Payne
You’re a moron with the emotional stability of a 15 year old girl. Grow up pansy.Not stopping til magic underwear clown is gone! Can’t stand pope! He’s a dufus! A jagoff!
Worst coach is UK history! He’s Kenny Payne
I almost stopped reading when you misspelled Moreno’s name. I didn’t, and I regret that decision, because the rest of your message just confirmed what I expected.
Williams is above average? We are one or two superstars away from a final four? We have two EXCELLENT pg’s?
You got one thing correct. It is only May. That’s it. The current month. Other than that, every thought was made with your head in the sand or up your ***.
Where do you propose we add two superstars from? The portal? Is someone going to figure out a way to jump in the portal that isn’t in there yet? It is closed. Nobody else being added.
If anything, I could see us losing players with the way recruiting has gone this off season. There’s a greater chance at that than adding two superstars.
I’m not going to even comment on being better than last year, final fours, etc., other than to say, I’d have a hard time believing we could be worse than last year, though Pope is making me second guess that.
Williams is above average? We are one or two superstars away from a final four? We have two EXCELLENT pg’s?
You got one thing correct. It is only May. That’s it. The current month. Other than that, every thought was made with your head in the sand or up your ***.
Where do you propose we add two superstars from? The portal? Is someone going to figure out a way to jump in the portal that isn’t in there yet? It is closed. Nobody else being added.
If anything, I could see us losing players with the way recruiting has gone this off season. There’s a greater chance at that than adding two superstars.
I’m not going to even comment on being better than last year, final fours, etc., other than to say, I’d have a hard time believing we could be worse than last year, though Pope is making me second guess that.
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Time to start hoping for the best with the players at hand. Not a terrible roster.
Projected Starting 5:
G Zoom Diallo
G Alex Wilkins
F Kam Williams
F Brayden Hawthorne
C Malachi Moreno
Projected Starting 5:
G Zoom Diallo
G Alex Wilkins
F Kam Williams
F Brayden Hawthorne
C Malachi Moreno
The toughest schedule in school history?? You can’t be serious right now. Who TF did we play last year?
I’m not sure these guards are better than one of those teams, much less all of them BY FAR. I could argue each year successfully I believe and especially after the upcoming season.
19-20: Quickley (we have nobody close), Maxey (why am I even replying) (both all-sec, Quickley SEC POY)
20-21: I’ll give you this one only because I’m burying you every other year.
21-22: TyTy and Wheeler (both all-sec) we won’t have a guard with that distinction this year
22-23 had guards who were 6th man of the year and an all-sec freshman. That isn’t counting Wheeler and Thiero.
23-24 Shep, Dilly, Reeves, Thiero, and Wagner all say hi. All Americans, all-sec, freshman of the year
24-25: Brea (best 3 shooter we’ve had in a while), Butler, Kriisa, and Chandler. Maybe close, but I don’t see the current roster being as diverse and dynamic
25-26: Lowe, Williams, Johnson. Best one was hurt all year. This is the worst of the group and about what I expect with the upcoming squad.
I would like to understand how these two incoming guards (who can’t play all game), will be the best two guards BY FAR. You probably can’t argue one of these years successfully.
Are people really this clueless?
I am serious. I said schedules not schedule. Year before last was toughest ever. This past season was second toughest ever according to the unbiased sports reference site.
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Ty Ty and Wheeler sucked. Especially Wheeler. Last year’s backcourt sucked even with healthy Lowe. I’ll give you the rest.I’m not sure these guards are better than one of those teams, much less all of them BY FAR. I could argue each year successfully I believe and especially after the upcoming season.
19-20: Quickley (we have nobody close), Maxey (why am I even replying) (both all-sec, Quickley SEC POY)
20-21: I’ll give you this one only because I’m burying you every other year.
21-22: TyTy and Wheeler (both all-sec) we won’t have a guard with that distinction this year
22-23 had guards who were 6th man of the year and an all-sec freshman. That isn’t counting Wheeler and Thiero.
23-24 Shep, Dilly, Reeves, Thiero, and Wagner all say hi. All Americans, all-sec, freshman of the year
24-25: Brea (best 3 shooter we’ve had in a while), Butler, Kriisa, and Chandler. Maybe close, but I don’t see the current roster being as diverse and dynamic
25-26: Lowe, Williams, Johnson. Best one was hurt all year. This is the worst of the group and about what I expect with the upcoming squad.
I would like to understand how these two incoming guards (who can’t play all game), will be the best two guards BY FAR. You probably can’t argue one of these years successfully.
Are people really this clueless?
You could argue Pope’s last two years were much better than Cal’s last two years here. Probably just as good as Cal’s two years at Arkansas.
I think we're in agreement to a be large extent. Bad coaching, laziness, not motivating the kids. It's fair game. Criticism based off the of office is deserved
cutting on him or his family on religion and being personal (despite losing) is off limits and to me shows losing has shaken you more to the core than anything.
Pope has done it against way more difficult schedules than Cal's last two seasons as well. Pope's schedules rank #1 and #2 in school history while Cal's rank at #38 and #43 in difficulty.
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