QUIT trying to tell fans how to fan.
Control freaks need not be on Social media at all.
Control freaks need not be on Social media at all.
Why is this board so hateful and anti UK
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"We are UK" no longer holds any more weight than "We are Vandy", or We are Texas," or "We are Indiana". Nil has made blueblood status inconsequential unless we become the Dodgers or Yankees and have the wealthiest donors.
I don't know how we plan to compete in the long term with Mark Cuban, the Longhorn Foundation, or $90 million in anonymous donations to Vanderbilt athletics. IU football proved that a great coach and lots of money can outperform bluebloods.
Does the JMI agreement give us the dollars to compete, or does it prevent us (UK) from working on alternative deals to raise money?
We couldn’t even sign Obina Top rated center in 2027 the only center we offered. He reclassified and picks Louisville as a back up that should tell everyone where the state of the program is at.
You don't think its reasonable to expect a final four in year three at Kentucky? Expectations are getting dropped like anchors around this program. I hate it.
They aren’t that’s the problem even a hall of fame coach who can actually coach would struggle with these guys. Diallo had Steinbach who is a possible lottery pick.
We didn't average a final 4 every 3 years before Pope. Why should it be expected now?
i think final four is unfair. to me a better mark is have a 1, 2 or 3 seed in the NCAAT. that means you did a lot of things right during the season. NCAAT is often a crap shoot. give me consistent high level regular season and conference performance.....NCAAT seeding reflects that.
but going into year 3, when you have a program like ours, in an era where you can buy players and totally change your team. we should have a top 10-12 team going into the season. there is no excuse for it.
I'll bite. Even if the result isn't a final four, having a team capable of making one should be the goal. Do you think we have that in year three for Mark Pope? We know the resources and backing for our basketball program are higher than most. I don't see much evidence from Pope's coaching career or this offseason pointing to a solid run in March. I would love to be surprised, though.
This is ridiculous. Can you name a single time (with proof) that another coach showed RR to a recruit?
This team is not a contender. If you genuninely want to argue it is then lets make a wager. Not being a contender is unacceptable for a third year coach at Kentucky. Its as simple as that.
Hey OP. The entirety of the sec loves pope. Even cal said pope is perfect for Kentucky. The dukes, the louisvilles they love mark pope at Kentucky. Those schools know pope neutered us and we are no threat to any serious school. When pope leaves he will be back as much as Bcg has. And I’m tired of the “he’s one of us”. No he’s not. He played one full season and sat out another. Other than that he’s spent no time in Kentucky. Pope is a former player not a blue blooded fan. Half our former players are no longer associated with our program other than when their team is honored. Pope was one of those until Barney showed up.
We are seeing pope cares about pope. The way the season ended and how he’s avoided all media. Taking unnecessary steps to land players. If you have to find players at this point mark we’ll stick to the USA. That dude in Israel there are guys like him a dime a dozen in the USA. Pope went hoping that dude never heard of him. Well he had evidently. Or pope speaks in such a way that turns people off.
We are seeing pope cares about pope. The way the season ended and how he’s avoided all media. Taking unnecessary steps to land players. If you have to find players at this point mark we’ll stick to the USA. That dude in Israel there are guys like him a dime a dozen in the USA. Pope went hoping that dude never heard of him. Well he had evidently. Or pope speaks in such a way that turns people off.
That doesn’t say this board though does it? I’ve tried to like you but for a guy that “lives on the beach” you’re a hateful person that’s never talking about the team or being nice to anyone. Idk why you’re even here other than arguing.
"Anyone that knows basketball" knows we don't have two excellent PGs.
"Anyone that knows basketball" knows there's not a snowballs chance in hell Mark Pope signs the one or two superstars you claim we need.
"Anyone that knows basketball" knows the "Senegal kid" averaged 12 points in a league Kyle Wiltjer still plays in.
I'm sick and tired of the rationalizing this crap. If that makes me a chicken little, whatever dude. I remember when UK was awesome and didn't have to listen to people tell me how some dude from freaking Furman is going to be an "excellent" point guard.
I answered a question. I didn't attack. Pushing back isn't being hateful. And it needs to warm up here before it's beach weather for me.
This article has actual quotes from here.
Kentucky Fans Appear To Be Done With Head Coach Mark Pope
Kentucky men's basketball head coach Mark Pope is entering Year 3 with the program. It's not going very well. Pope, who was previously the head coach at BYU, went 24–12 in Year 1, reaching the Sweet 16. The Wildcats then went 22-14 in Year 2, losing in the second round. Those are solid years...
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I really do not feel UK's base is any different than other large fanbases. I would encourage others to view teams boards after their losses and you will find it's not much different than the crazy stuff you see on here. If UK doesn't know how to combat that, I don't know what to say. Just search any school's board or scroll through social media and you will see it all.
Anyone who doesn't agree with constant hate is sticking up for pope according to you guys. It's the constant hate and negativity and bashing of the coaches and players we don't like. That doesn't mean we are sticking up for anyone. We all agree if the results aren't better in year 3 then Pope needs to go. What we don't like or need is the childish entitled hate.
I can only speak for myself, but my biggest issue with an inkling of positivity comes with someone trying to tell me how awesome some dude from Furman is going to be. Or some guy from Senegal that nobody has ever seen play outside of a three minute highlight where he's cooking Kyle Freaking Wiltjer. Or that Reese Potter has a high basketball IQ. It's because the "positivity" is like the fake positive crap our head coach tries to sell. It's fake. Right now, the absolute most positive thing people point out is the backcourt. One of those guys was the PG on a horrible team and the other was on a Furman team that finished 4th in some god awful conference. Those shouldn't be the POSITIVES. Those should be pieces, on a good to great team. My hate is overwhelming. I don't hate other posters. I don't hate these absolutely mid players. I hate where UK basketball is, and it frustrates the hell out of me when people try to rationalize it.
Nothing you do has any effect on the season. That being said, fan how you want to fan. I'm a huge believer in it. I'll disagree with the level of the team and players all day long. And when the season rolls around I'll watch every single game and beg my wife to take a trip to watch a game (I live in MO and coach basketball, so it's next to impossible to do) when we don't have the time to do it. But none of that is going to change one thing about the trajectory of the season.
You can root for someone and still talk about the BS job they're doing and roster they are constructing. Rooting for a team doesn't have to be blindly accepting everything they do...Mind you, I'm not telling YOU how to do it. Merely explaining where others are coming from when they (me) do it.
Louisville fans want to keep mark pope around. He’s our Kenny Payne
Matt Jones gets debunked plenty himself.
How did he prove that it never happened?
They could at least start by cracking the top 5 of in the conference by year 3. Given that the goal post is moving, I think that is a fair compromise.
I'd actually like to see top 4 in conference. We should never play before Friday in the SEC.
That's much more reasonable than a Final 4 in 3 years.
And now our best center is on the cusp of staying in the draft given he's showing up on the edge of the first round in mock drafts. Talk about a punch in the gut if he goes...
No way he goes. If Florida returned their front court, no WAY Moreno goes. The money is better in college for him.
The way our luck has been the last 10 years don't count on it......
If he goes, Kentucky will lose 20 games next season. Mid major roster
Nothing strains an organization more than sales staff who cannot hit (reasonable) targets. If the pipeline is not there, the business dies a slow death.
Recruiting (sales) is by far the most important aspect of a CBB staff's job. Much moreso than "coaching" (obviously coaching is not insignificant, but it makes the difference between EE / FF ceiling vs a FF / Natl Champ ceiling -- if you don't have the players, you're not getting there no matter how good you coach).