2027 Recruiting Thread
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And yet people b^tch when they sign advertising deals to bring in money.
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Show me the money. You don't think Lanning and the boys are not going to go hard after every recruit that PSU and Oregon have mutual interest in after Kraft's comments about Oregon. 3-0 by my count for Oregon- Db from MD Qb from Utah, Lb from Pa.
If we compliment Oregon do you think they will not recruit as hard vs psu?
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Aren't we notoriously weak getting guys from St Joe's Prep? This is not good that the #1 LB in PA chooses to go all the way to Oregon but money talks. At an 89 rating on 247 you would think he may not break the NIL bank but Oregon probably had a sweet NIL package for him.
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Yes. PSU has struggled to get SJP kids. This kid supposedly had PSU interest earlier in the process. Franklin had a DL from SJP committed last year, who ended up at Syracuse after Franklin was let go. Prior to that, you have to go all the way back to John Reid in 2015 for the last time PSU got a kid from SJP.
Do you think that had anything to do with recruiting against Georgia, clemson, and Ohio state for high 4*s and 5*s?
Kraft hates Nike, and the feeling is mutual for Nike. Nike owns O-gon fball. Just like Mark Cuban owns Indiana, that weird Florida dude that owns Miami, etc. 'College' football is in full transition mode to ownership by billionaire alums and certain corporations related to sports. We have a large alumni base, but we don't have that billionaire/corporation. Yet.
West Shore Home annual revenue is about $750 million.
Nike annual revenue is about $47 billion.
You need big billionaire entrepreneur types like Cuban and obviously Knight. Pegula fits the bill but not sure how all in he is with PSU football. CEOs of corporations don't have the money to throw around like these billionaire entrepreneur types. Yes, they are extremely wealthy but not like the billionaires. And just because we have a huge alumni base doesn't mean a lot of people will contribute to NIL.
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One of PSU’s RB targets
If he stayed, then yes. Good pickup. I forgot about him. I think Franklin flipped him from Duke last year.
Were not Adidas, PlayFly etc all supposed to be "record breaking" deals that were to fill PSU
"NIL" (buy players) coffers?
There is a ton of information out there on the different insider boards, with one of the boards currently providing donor level actual inside information. Cannot be too specific, but in general there’s reason to be optimistic with Adidas money coming online soon, but also there’s reason for pessimism as Conference foes (in the next tier down) are really getting their compensation together. It’s also difficult that you have these one off situations where a lower funded school may be willing to blow their NIL budget on a specific player that we’re interested in and then we lose that player (there may be one or two such examples happening this week.) And there are schools like Oregon that are just putting out stupid amounts of money with a blank check from their billionaire donors to do whatever they see fit. We have to run this as a business and they do not.Were not Adidas, PlayFly etc all supposed to be "record breaking" deals that were to fill PSU
"NIL" (buy players) coffers?
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Committed to one team, now open to 15. Crazy times.
And that it amounts to a hill of beans? In that case, - spoiler alert - No. No justification for "optimism".
Though I would imagine there is - as per usual - an avalanche of bad information running through the gossip columns.
Things appear to be trending positively with 4* RB Aiden Gibson with his announcement rapidly approaching.
I am still hoping for the other South Carolina RB David Segarra who is a much better prospect.
I'd be thrilled with Segarra but I think Gibson is more likely to land with Penn State and I'll be very happy if that happens.
Honest question. Why would "Adidas Money" be a boon for PSU more so than apparel contracts to other big time programs?
Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, Alabama, Notre Dame, etc. all have the opportunity and are certainly as attractive, if not more so than PSU for similar agreements. Adidas Money can only be as much as what other so called blue blood programs are raking in. It certainly does not put PSU above them. Adidas may have offered a better deal than PSU's expiring one with Nike....but it's hard to believe PSU scored a deal that Notre Dame or Alabama can't match.
Last year when we lost premier recruits like Wafle and O'Brien as we approached the new 7/1 NIL deadline.....Franklin was blamed for refusing to offer money that exceeded funds earned by proven players.
A bit of honesty reveals that, in fact, the NIL money wasn't there. Now, we defend not putting "stupid money" on blue chips and celebrate running the program "like a business."
If Franklin really gave Liam Clifford half a million dollars, there was money there.
My info comes from insider boards, but there are significant general NIL funds there and specific (significant) endorsement possibilities for top players as well. This is a new revenue stream for PSU.
Timing for one. OSU and Michigan have contracts, valued at between $15 million and $17 million, that were signed years ago. OSU's contract runs yo 2033 and Michigan's resets next year.
Notre Dame just signed a ten year contract at $10 million a year.
Adidas is casting for bigger fish than it has historically by overpaying. They dis at deal with Rocky Top for $20 million a year.
NIL funding is problematical. It's only going to be there in a significant way if the team is very good and/or has recognizable players.
There was money last year. I posted the quotes from the article where Franklin admitted that PSU went all in last year and they were on the same footing as Ohio State. Kraft's complaint was how Franklin used the NIL money.
Were NIL is concerned the HC really should be taken out of the equation. HC's coach and GM's manage and NIL should all be handled between the PS GM and the players agents. But that's just my opinion.
That’s why he deserved to be fired. They went all in on last year, then didn’t have the team prepared to play.
There is a real GM office now, and it appears those monetary decisions are now made by Hoodjer.
Gimme Gibson in this class outside of anyone not named Kemon Spell. 6'2 205lbs.
Might need to go get some lightening to go with him at some point but I love what I'm seeing with the physicality Campbell is prioritizing with his recruiting.
Might need to go get some lightening to go with him at some point but I love what I'm seeing with the physicality Campbell is prioritizing with his recruiting.
Believe it or not, our competition is Rutgers. There are attempting to make him the focal point of their class, and they are putting a big dollars to do so, more so than we typically give out to an RB not named Kemon Spell. We have made a late push to land the thunder (another Kaytron) component of our future backfield, as you say.
Excuse my ignorance, but just a few days ago you said PSU could not compete with the big boys for NIL. Now, you are insinuating that PSU has “significant” NIL funds and “endorsement possibilities for top players”? Which is it? I feel like it has to be one or the other. Are the funds not usable yet? Are they being reserved for transfers? Are they divided up on the current roster? If there are significant funds and endorsement deals to be had, then why does it feel like PSU is getting schooled on the recruiting trail right now, specifically in PA? I realize not everything is black and white, but there seems to be a whole lot of grey area being presented.
Our Adidas contract starts on July 1. We still won’t be at the same level as the billionaire funded programs, but it will help. Also remember that the next couple years are particularly difficult for the athletic department as we have stadium renovation financial obligations that the school is diverting significant large gifts and current funding to, but supposedly those obligations significantly decrease in a few years.
Your assessment of recruiting is not the assessment that’s out there. We’re building a fabulous class and Campbell is much further ahead than where people thought he would be at this point in time. Does that mean he’s gonna land every recruit he wants the rest of the year? No not at all. But he’s doing well and we are poised to land some great talent over the next few months. One recruit that I’m convinced we will not get unfortunately is Bourque, who is shopping the entire country for Mencl money without making a commitment here. He is now getting the interest of Ohio State and Auburn as well. Even with an influx of funding later in the summer, we’re just not going to pay a high school qb recruit more than Becht himself.
Math checks out. What also checks out is he only had 20 more receiving yards than Allar
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So, we don’t have significant NIL. Maybe we just admit that upfront and stop trying to sugarcoat it. As for the recruiting, forgive me for not getting excited for beating out the likes of Pitt, Syracuse, and Temple for recruits. Now, you are telling us PSU is going to lose out on a recruit to Rutgers. WTF. Sad. PA should be a priority and it doesn’t look promising either. I guess they’ll just hit the portal hard every year and hope to become more like Indiana than Colorado, but that is going to be tough also if the NIL is an issue as you are alluding to.