I’ve said this for years. He throws a lot of stuff out, but, honestly, he doesn’t know anything more than some bum on a street corner.Matt doesnt have a clue. please stop posting anything he says regarding recruiting
Probably so, but everyone assumes this.May be so ,but it's coming soon
Maybe it is a faulty memory but I don't recall the attacks being as personal against Tubby as they are against Pope. Most of the LOD in those days did consider Tubby to be a decent person. As for me, I fell off the Tubby bandwagon during the first team turmoil, then I jumped back on when it appeared that things were turning around and then fell off again some time after the E8 loss to Michigan St. Tubby was one of the few coaches at UK I would have enjoyed having dinner with.
Wait, what???LMAO, Crawford was strongly considering transferring to Michigan State mid season. That sounds like quitting to me.
Also, your comment makes it so much worse for BCG too. Pope had a team that didn't like each other, had serious injuries and as you said, quit and that team STILL finished better than BCG's best team by a mile, while playing a schedule that was ranked 62 spots higher.
Tell that to poor Derrick Jasper's legs.It’s ironic that the guy who won’t even drink caffeine is going to do more harm to Kentucky than the drunk did ever did.
Don't forget Mark Coury.Really don't want to add onto this argument but I can't help myself...
How is the talent not debatable? 2nd year BCG:
Michael Porter started 36/36 games
Perry Stevenson started 34/36
Ramon Harris started 28/36
Kevin Galloway started 5 games and was in and out of the lineup.
Try to steer from absolutes like that my friend cause the talent level is actually very much debateable.
Well we can each argue about that from multiple angles but they both sucked and I had never hoped to feel like that again towards our program and here we are.Bcg's recruiting was not actually better than Pope's. In 2 years he landed 3 good players and at the end of those two years (where Pope currently sits) only one had actually done anything of significance.
Of course it’s coming soon. The season will be here soon. Between now and the last day to start classes is all we know for sure. But I’m thinking within a week or two.May be so ,but it's coming soon
It’s only 8:00 out there so 3hours 50 minutes.How many minutes until midnight?
I honestly think all the criticism of Pope's recruiting here is seriously overblown. He put together a solid roster last minute the first season. Last years recruiting despite all the hindsight complaints was lauded by almost all of the independent pundits with some even suggesting we were too loaded with not enough balls to go around. I'm not saying I agreed with all that but it was said. This year has been a bit rough but it is not yet settled.Well we can each argue about that from multiple angles but they both sucked and I had never hoped to feel like that again towards our program and here we are.![]()
Tomorrow has got to come sometime.
My bad... I was directing that towards the Cal jock sniffers on here, but re-reading it definitely looks like it's towards you.LMAO, my Lord and savior… John Calipari? Where did you get that?
Anyone that has been here for more than 2 years, would laugh at that comment.
Why? I got banned because I was crushing Cal every minute of the day on here. I hate that guy.
But Cal began prioritizing other things above winning and continued to try and sell us that how he was performing should have been good enough. Cal made it clear that he believed he should have been above criticism from not just the fans but also his boss.
The fact people are debating who was the worst coach in UK history is enough to agree they both suck.LMAO, Crawford was strongly considering transferring to Michigan State mid season. That sounds like quitting to me.
Also, your comment makes it so much worse for BCG too. Pope had a team that didn't like each other, had serious injuries and as you said, quit and that team STILL finished better than BCG's best team by a mile, while playing a schedule that was ranked 62 spots higher.
Goalpost officially moved.The fact people are debating who was the worst coach in UK history is enough to agree they both suck.
What goal post did I move? Feel free to quote me to prove your point.Goalpost officially moved.![]()
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The last several years has revealed that. KSRs beat sources used to be matt running over to HOB to see what Justin was talking about.The last two weeks have not been good to the idea of KSR having any inside info.
You were arguing or rather piggybacked on the argument that Pope was worse than BCG and that Pope's teams quit and BCG's never did. When he proved that was fallacy you switched to they both suck.What goal post did I move? Feel free to quote me to prove your point.
Says you.Even if we get Stokes, we don’t have enough talent around him to prevent 12 losses.
You are mistaken. Tubby recruited Meeks and he played his freshman season for Tubby.Both of them have a career high of S16. What exactly makes Pope better? BCG recruited Patterson, Liggins, and Meeks if I'm not mistaken?
Yea BCG sucked at UK. His S16 was elsewhere. But his recruits still played a large role in Calipari's initial success. It's not looking like Pope will have any such gifts to leave the next coach.
It's gonna be YUUUUGGGEEEEIt’s coming, and it’s gonna be a beautiful, really spectacular commitment, just incredible. It’s gonna be a commitment like you’ve never seen before. Or at least that’s what Pope told me![]()
OAt least Ryan agreed with him
But he had the middle schoolers lined up.Bcg's recruiting was not actually better than Pope's. In 2 years he landed 3 good players and at the end of those two years (where Pope currently sits) only one had actually done anything of significance.
His class before he was fired was awful, I say that was more due to his personal drunkenness rather than inability to recruit at the time. He was offering 8th graders instead of players who developed into legit prospects before college.I honestly think all the criticism of Pope's recruiting here is seriously overblown. He put together a solid roster last minute the first season. Last years recruiting despite all the hindsight complaints was lauded by almost all of the independent pundits with some even suggesting we were too loaded with not enough balls to go around. I'm not saying I agreed with all that but it was said. This year has been a bit rough but it is not yet settled.
If Cal had honored all of BCG's commits for their full eligibility we would have been saddled with several guys not capable of competing at this level. Fortunately Cal was able to immediately recruit over them.
I mean coming out of the 1st rd of the NFL draft- so many think they know, and then reality can show us we didnt know shish the entire time.I’m fairly confident Stokes camp puts out false information because he loves the attention. He is the type of player with a huge ego and wants to be larger than life. That can go either way for his career, you harness it properly and you are a star, you don’t and you flame out. I still believe he makes a decision this week.
There was a time when he did put out some very good information. He was on top of the Marshall Moses debacle and the AJ Stewart mess. Having said that, I haven't seen KSR get much of anything right in a long, long time. I wish that they had the connections they once had but they simply don't. So they seem to be guessing at everything or trusting bad sources.I’ve said this for years. He throws a lot of stuff out, but, honestly, he doesn’t know anything more than some bum on a street corner.
Another post from the Ashtray that accomplishes nothing. Am I surprised? No, no I am not.Wait, what???
"considering" = quitting?
The fact that he STAYED means he quit?
Your twisted logic, man.
I am taking a "the jury is still out" approach to Pope.The fact people are debating who was the worst coach in UK history is enough to agree they both suck.