Most Overrated Wrestler

Nitlion1986

All-Conference
Apr 13, 2024
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Taylor is a 2 time finalist and a 1 time champ. Yes, Kasak face stomped him twice and PJ had him beat in the dual and kicked his asss in the Big10s, but at the tournament used to measure greatness, he got it done.

Shapiro on the other hand is the opposite of Taylor, at the show Shapiro simply wilted.
 

CTStall

Senior
Oct 24, 2020
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Are you asking this year or all time.
If all time, numerous PA 4 timers have not had nearly the success in college as expected.
 
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MonkChowder

Redshirt
Mar 10, 2014
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Angelo Ferrari.
If his last name wasn't Ferrari, he would just be a really tough wrestler to score on. Super boring and didn't place higher than 6th place in the BIG's and Nationals.
 

PUR158

All-Conference
Feb 11, 2025
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This one is going off the board a bit, how about Adam Busiello? Top 15/20 pfp. I thought he would be a multiple time AA, challenging for the top of the podium, Super 32 champ, had almost 300 wins in NY. I hate to use the word over rated, how about, surprised he didn't reach initial projections?
 

manatree

All-American
Oct 6, 2021
3,060
5,550
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I hate to use the word over rated, how about, surprised he didn't reach initial projections?

There are many factors in determining success in an athlete’s career. What I find curious is that the prognosticators always escape unscathed when an athlete doesn’t live up to expectations.
 
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Matter7172

Senior
Oct 30, 2021
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This one is going off the board a bit, how about Adam Busiello? Top 15/20 pfp. I thought he would be a multiple time AA, challenging for the top of the podium, Super 32 champ, had almost 300 wins in NY. I hate to use the word over rated, how about, surprised he didn't reach initial projections?
Not really fair, as his career was derailed by injuries when he was still in high school. So we'll never really know what he could have been.
 

Matter7172

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Oct 30, 2021
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Here in District 11 Bobby Weaver and his college career did represent how great he was in high school and freestyle. Dominated High School and then was was World/Olympic champ.
The reason ,he was too small for 118 in college.
He won the Olympic title at 105.5.🤨
You've probably seen me refer to 125 pound prospects possibly having "Bobby Weaver syndrome".
 
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Psalm 1 guy

All-Conference
Nov 3, 2019
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Here in District 11 Bobby Weaver and his college career did represent how great he was in high school and freestyle. Dominated High School and then was was World/Olympic champ.
The reason ,he was too small for 118 in college.
He won the Olympic title at 105.5.🤨
I am amazed they had a 105.5 lb. weight back then! I had to look it up, but the average weight for an adult male in the U.S. back around 1960 was in the mid 160's. It is now almost 200. With the lowest UWW/Olympic weight being 20 pounds higher now, you have to wonder how many "Bobby Weavers" there were over the years who were just too small to compete at the lowest official weight. For historical context, from 1972 to 1996, when there were ten Olympic weight classes, the three lowest weights were 48, 52, and 57. Here is Bobby's 1984 Olympic gold medal match. For those who haven't seen it, it is a fun watch: Edit: That was a slick two-on-one technique Weaver used at 1:35 into the video. I am wondering if that technique would translate at the higher weights? I would love to see P.J. be able to add that TD to his two-on-one arsenal.

 
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El_Jefe

Heisman
Oct 11, 2021
3,383
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That was a slick two-on-one technique Weaver used at 1:35 into the video. I am wondering if that technique would translate at the higher weights? I would love to see P.J. be able to add that TD to his two-on-one arsenal.


I don't see that duck working today at any weight, because the standard Russian Tie defense is a stiff-arm to the face.

It might work if an opponent screwed up and tried a front headlock like in the video -- but then an ankle pick would be far easier.
 

Psalm 1 guy

All-Conference
Nov 3, 2019
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I don't see that duck working today at any weight, because the standard Russian Tie defense is a stiff-arm to the face.

It might work if an opponent screwed up and tried a front headlock like in the video -- but then an ankle pick would be far easier.
Unless they are trailing late in a match, then the obvious choice is the duck under.
 

LB99

Heisman
Oct 27, 2021
9,997
14,567
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I fell about 12 feet, from the top section of my archery stand ladder, last fall. But i'd still say I didn't fall quite as hard. Definitely faster 🤣 Thank good for my youth and pine tree branches.
Holy sh^t. That is scary. I dropped my bow out of my stand a few years ago and thought I was going to cry, then I realized it could have been me.
 

Misalorales

All-Conference
Jun 3, 2025
1,214
3,691
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Holy sh^t. That is scary. I dropped my bow out of my stand a few years ago and thought I was going to cry, then I realized it could have been me.
I certainly was surprised I was all good save for some cuts on my hands. Hurt for a few days but yea, pure luck honestly.
 
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AgSurfer

All-Conference
Aug 9, 2013
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I am amazed they had a 105.5 lb. weight back then! I had to look it up, but the average weight for an adult male in the U.S. back around 1960 was in the mid 160's. It is now almost 200. With the lowest UWW/Olympic weight being 20 pounds higher now, you have to wonder how many "Bobby Weavers" there were over the years who were just too small to compete at the lowest official weight. For historical context, from 1972 to 1996, when there were ten Olympic weight classes, the three lowest weights were 48, 52, and 57. Here is Bobby's 1984 Olympic gold medal match. For those who haven't seen it, it is a fun watch: Edit: That was a slick two-on-one technique Weaver used at 1:35 into the video. I am wondering if that technique would translate at the higher weights? I would love to see P.J. be able to add that TD to his two-on-one arsenal.


I saw Sergei Beloglazov use that same technique back in 1975 when he was about 18 years old.
 
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BriantheLion

All-Conference
Nov 27, 2023
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I am amazed they had a 105.5 lb. weight back then! I had to look it up, but the average weight for an adult male in the U.S. back around 1960 was in the mid 160's. It is now almost 200. With the lowest UWW/Olympic weight being 20 pounds higher now, you have to wonder how many "Bobby Weavers" there were over the years who were just too small to compete at the lowest official weight. For historical context, from 1972 to 1996, when there were ten Olympic weight classes, the three lowest weights were 48, 52, and 57. Here is Bobby's 1984 Olympic gold medal match. For those who haven't seen it, it is a fun watch: Edit: That was a slick two-on-one technique Weaver used at 1:35 into the video. I am wondering if that technique would translate at the higher weights? I would love to see P.J. be able to add that TD to his two-on-one arsenal.


Fun watch!
 
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