I can but it will take me a bit. Should have it together in another day or two.
Carl on PSU, "we follow the rules, there's not a lot of that going on right now"
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I haven't forgotten. I hadn't tracked NCAA qualification/round previously so it's taking me a little bit of time to get that plugged in...and my wife wasn't exactly thrilled with the idea of me tinkering with it over the weekend. I'll start having some of the information out today.
@Misalorales I'm about halfway through the 26-50th ranked kids right now. I'm just going back 10 years...2016-2025 recruiting classes...but that's still 250 names to sift through on track. I can give you some of the data right now.
- Only 18.4% of all recruits in this range ever made it to the podium.
- The numbers are slightly skewed simply because any recruit from 2022-2025 still has multiple years of eligibility left.
- If you only look at guys that have exhausted their eligibility, 22.0% made the podium at least once.
- Of the 13 recruits from 2021-2025 who AA'ed, only 5 have made the podium more than once. That can obviously change since so many of those guys have a lot of eligibility left.
I'll refrain on making a judgement on whether or not it was a red flag, but it was pretty surprising how that all unfolded. Trust me when I say it left a bad taste in quite a few people's mouths close to the situation.
Really i will give you the sandusky nobody is defending that but star finger blasting. Why because bueas girl said so really. Lol. Like a i said rumor
Look up rumors in the dictionary its right beside the thesuris if you are struggling with that. How many times on this board was something said about an iowa wrestler doing something and its just someone hearing something and repeating it. Wtf already. I could just say iowa is cheating and start spewing that **** all over. Someone will pick it up and repeat it as truth. Get the facts jack or you are just like everyone else on here full of **** lol
Wow that went way over your head lol.and maybe you could use that as an example of the rumors you here about psu on here lmfao
Seems odd that a 5x champ, that they paid well over a million to return for that 5th year, wouldn’t be on the NLWC roster, doesn’t it?
Sarcasm? I know, they’re squeaky clean over there. They can sleep easy at night!
Rumor has it that one of their guys got caught soliciting a prostitute. Rumor has it a couple of their guys got suspended for banned substances. Just rumors though…oh wait
I have 90 names left from the 26-50 group. This exercise has reminded me how much I hate trackwrestling at times. Some of these guys have 2-3 track profiles with various years spread among them...and once I crossed into the classes that were on campus for 2020-21 things started to take longer. Going to track is still a helluva lot faster than going through each individual wrestlers school bios, but not by as much as I thought it would.
I'm just hoping I can get this one wrapped up by this time tomorrow. I'll probably just create a unique thread for it so that it doesn't get lost in all of this crap.
The dictionary is next to the Thesuris? Dat you Jethro?
Ya anytime I've done anything I'm stuck going through the school specific bios and that's not all that fun. Lol I know this is naive, maybe, but wouldn't it be nice to have a legitimate free and easy to interface with statistical database? Like almost every other sport I watch I could just go to sports reference or even ESPN, sort by a few dozen different stats and see information going back decades. Wrestling I hit paywalls and it never seems well organized.
What are you looking for that wrestlestat doesn’t have? I would think that site would be your go to…
It's a pain in the rear to navigate and/or find guys when you're looking for wrestlers that are not currently active. That's where I started before reverting to back to trackwrestling. It was just faster.
It would be, but there's a ton of upkeep on creating/maintaining something like that...and there are far fewer people trying to search for it so the advertising revenue would be almost non-existent...not even sure it would pay for the web hosting.
A-hole fans said the same when Sandusky victims started coming forward. These accusations came straight from a decorated former wrestler. If you don't like it, take it up with him.
Depending on the browser you are using it really is only 1 extra step. Using google all you have to do is type in the person's name along with wrestlestat(.com) for those that are no longer active. Keep 2 windows open. 1 with wrestlestat and the other to "search". About as fast and easy as it gets...
Oh, and wrestlingstats.com has every bracket going back in time, so that is BY FAR the best source if you are simply looking for NCAA tournament results.
People actually have taken it up with him, as far as I know it happens something like this: he claimed that Carter Starocci took his stuff. An investigation could not confirm that which lead to no arrests. Like it or not something that amounts to petty theft does not get the same attention and scrutiny they say well a murder.
I've had similar experiences you believe it happened, you can't prove it well enough, no charges filed.
All of a sudden, this mystery story comes with unconfirmed allegations. None of these ladies filed complaints with law-enforcement, which would probably still be within a statute of limitations, nor did they file a civil suit.
It was straight up ********. And that's how the story ended.
There were a lot more allegations inside the wrestling program than just "he took my stuff" but again, this is what fanatics tend to do when their program comes under scrutiny.
What did Bartlett have to gain by just making this all up and if its all bullsheet as you say, why was Carter pushed out the door as soon as possible?
Common sense says Bartlett is the one deserving of being believed and frankly supported. Of course that's not in the DNA of your fanbase.
i have no idea what carter did or didn't do related to those allegations
but based on his social media history alone (aj ferrari and the pink *****, "pissing on graves"), i can imagine some reasons cael, casey, and the rest don't want carter as a veteran leader for the young guys
You mean the investigation where the cops couldn't find Carter.. For the investigation that narrowed it down to being Carter or kasak as being the only two who entered the locker room. You're the typical Penn State cover up queen.
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I've always wondered why Carter never sought legal action during the sexual assault allegations. If I were him and innocent, I think I'd be speaking out more about all of it. His actions regarding all of it are strange to me. To me it just seemed like his plan was to shut up & "let the smoke clear". Definitely not a good look from my POV.
And I would hope I had enough self-restraint to do the opposite of your stated preference.
Surely in the times of social media, there is the potential for any public figure to be overwhelmed by accusations. Responding in kind takes time and energy. It also can be taken as adding a modicum of credibility to the accuser(s).
So I see it as neither a bad or good look. To me, a blind preference for one approach or the other smacks of confirmation bias, in the absence of due process.
I hope you're never on a jury where I am the accused and my lawyers advise me to neither make public statements nor take the stand, as would be within my rights.
I feel that had any real charges been brought forth, Carter's attorney(s) would've handled the PR campaign, and he would've been better served by allowing them to do so.
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Who is saying he didn't? We don't know if he talked to an attorney. And what was said if he did? If you've ever been in some kind of legal situation like this you'd know they don't move very quickly .
And even if you believe you have been wronged it doesn't mean you will necessarily win a lawsuit.
No , you're the typical idiot that sees a conspiracy everywhere. Talk to an investigator and see what they say? I've had situations where I know. Certain people did certain things to me, but there is no absolute proof.
You think police are going to hold two people in custody and do what water boredom until they admit what happened? You're an idiot.
Here's how it works, cop ask Carter if he did this he says no I didn't do it. They then ask kasak and he says the same. End of investigation. Do you have any idea how many petty theft crimes happen in a large university? Do you really think they'll spend more than an hour or so on something like this?
you're just not aware of what everyone (including, and especially, lawyers) tells you how to handle these situations.
you're supposed to go dark and stfu.
On the one hand, Carl kind of brought this back to the limelight with his remark about the integrity of other programs, so fair game to keep this f*n debate going. On the other, I'm tired of hearing about CStar on here. Great wrestler, but never liked him for several reasons. If he indeed did what some have accused and others there knew but did little (neither which would shock me in the least), karma has a way of catching up with people eventually. Until then, I'll take the sage Cesspool advice I received and get back to prepping for open water walleyes and gobbling turkeys.....and hopefully good portal news.
It's thesaurus btw. It's always a good idea to make sure your spelling is on point when trying to criticize someone's intelligence.
As for the topic you're so rabidly defending, have you reached out to Bartlett with your concerns? Seems like your gripe should be with him?
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Yes, I completely understand why he didn't speak out, I'm sure that's what he was told to do and probably let the news cycle run its course. I'm just saying it is odd to ME (you don't have to agree) that you're a star and on the road to an international career and now you aren't even on your college's RTC program, a program that apprently paid you a ton of money to come back and wrestle for an extra year. I obviously don't know if he has any guilt or not but I just think it's odd and I'm not sure I could keep my mouth shut if it were me and I was completely innocent. I don't think too many champions are used to not sticking up for themselves if they are completely innocent, it's not in their DNA. But then again, maybe the world is in the mindset now that you just "sit back and take it". Who knows, I'm glad this "scandal" wasn't a huge black eye for the sport, just mentioned I think it smells a bit fishy with his lack of rebutal to all the allegations.