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cwobrien11

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@Misalorales I'm about halfway through the 26-50th ranked kids right now. I'm just going back 10 years...2016-2025 recruiting classes...but that's still 250 names to sift through on track. I can give you some of the data right now.

  • Only 18.4% of all recruits in this range ever made it to the podium.
  • The numbers are slightly skewed simply because any recruit from 2022-2025 still has multiple years of eligibility left.
  • If you only look at guys that have exhausted their eligibility, 22.0% made the podium at least once.
  • Of the 13 recruits from 2021-2025 who AA'ed, only 5 have made the podium more than once. That can obviously change since so many of those guys have a lot of eligibility left.
I should have the rest of this group done in the next 24 hours. I will tell you that this subset of recruits will have significantly better numbers than the two groups below them...significantly better. The 51-75 group has less than half of the total number of AA guys (notables-Mikey Caliendo, Kyle Parco, Zach Elam, Max Dean, etc.). 76-100 is even less. I'm not entirely sure how much value in going beyond that but we will cross that bridge when we get there.
 

Misalorales

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@Misalorales I'm about halfway through the 26-50th ranked kids right now. I'm just going back 10 years...2016-2025 recruiting classes...but that's still 250 names to sift through on track. I can give you some of the data right now.

  • Only 18.4% of all recruits in this range ever made it to the podium.
  • The numbers are slightly skewed simply because any recruit from 2022-2025 still has multiple years of eligibility left.
  • If you only look at guys that have exhausted their eligibility, 22.0% made the podium at least once.
  • Of the 13 recruits from 2021-2025 who AA'ed, only 5 have made the podium more than once. That can obviously change since so many of those guys have a lot of eligibility left.
I should have the rest of this group done in the next 24 hours. I will tell you that this subset of recruits will have significantly better numbers than the two groups below them...significantly better. The 51-75 group has less than half of the total number of AA guys (notables-Mikey Caliendo, Kyle Parco, Zach Elam, Max Dean, etc.). 76-100 is even less. I'm not entirely sure how much value in going beyond that but we will cross that bridge when we get there.
Thank you.
 

OldGlory76

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Beginning??? Getting Bobby Douglas axed and then leaving ISU should have been a HUGE red flag.
I'll refrain on making a judgement on whether or not it was a red flag, but it was pretty surprising how that all unfolded. Trust me when I say it left a bad taste in quite a few people's mouths close to the situation.
 
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District 4

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Sandusky wasn't a rumor. Star finger blasting his teammates wasn't a rumor. Go back to Ped Valley.
Really i will give you the sandusky nobody is defending that but star finger blasting. Why because bueas girl said so really. Lol. Like a i said rumor
 

District 4

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Yeah, former high level and highly respected athletes are always super willing to detail abuse by former teammates, especially when it's sexual in nature. I'm sure he made it all up and the person he accused just so happens to not be part of the program anymore... all just innocent "rumors".
You guys are great at sweeping that stuff under the rug, must be something in the water up there.
Look up rumors in the dictionary its right beside the thesuris if you are struggling with that. How many times on this board was something said about an iowa wrestler doing something and its just someone hearing something and repeating it. Wtf already. I could just say iowa is cheating and start spewing that **** all over. Someone will pick it up and repeat it as truth. Get the facts jack or you are just like everyone else on here full of **** lol
 

Slim45

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Really i will give you the sandusky nobody is defending that but star finger blasting. Why because bueas girl said so really. Lol. Like a i said rumor
Seems odd that a 5x champ, that they paid well over a million to return for that 5th year, wouldn’t be on the NLWC roster, doesn’t it?
 

cwobrien11

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Thank you.
I have 90 names left from the 26-50 group. This exercise has reminded me how much I hate trackwrestling at times. Some of these guys have 2-3 track profiles with various years spread among them...and once I crossed into the classes that were on campus for 2020-21 things started to take longer. Going to track is still a helluva lot faster than going through each individual wrestlers school bios, but not by as much as I thought it would.
I'm just hoping I can get this one wrapped up by this time tomorrow. I'll probably just create a unique thread for it so that it doesn't get lost in all of this crap.
 

InTheCircle

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Look up rumors in the dictionary its right beside the thesuris if you are struggling with that. How many times on this board was something said about an iowa wrestler doing something and its just someone hearing something and repeating it. Wtf already. I could just say iowa is cheating and start spewing that **** all over. Someone will pick it up and repeat it as truth. Get the facts jack or you are just like everyone else on here full of **** lol
The dictionary is next to the Thesuris? Dat you Jethro?
 

Misalorales

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I have 90 names left from the 26-50 group. This exercise has reminded me how much I hate trackwrestling at times. Some of these guys have 2-3 track profiles with various years spread among them...and once I crossed into the classes that were on campus for 2020-21 things started to take longer. Going to track is still a helluva lot faster than going through each individual wrestlers school bios, but not by as much as I thought it would.
I'm just hoping I can get this one wrapped up by this time tomorrow. I'll probably just create a unique thread for it so that it doesn't get lost in all of this crap.
Ya anytime I've done anything I'm stuck going through the school specific bios and that's not all that fun. Lol I know this is naive, maybe, but wouldn't it be nice to have a legitimate free and easy to interface with statistical database? Like almost every other sport I watch I could just go to sports reference or even ESPN, sort by a few dozen different stats and see information going back decades. Wrestling I hit paywalls and it never seems well organized.
 

MSU158

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I have 90 names left from the 26-50 group. This exercise has reminded me how much I hate trackwrestling at times. Some of these guys have 2-3 track profiles with various years spread among them...and once I crossed into the classes that were on campus for 2020-21 things started to take longer. Going to track is still a helluva lot faster than going through each individual wrestlers school bios, but not by as much as I thought it would.
I'm just hoping I can get this one wrapped up by this time tomorrow. I'll probably just create a unique thread for it so that it doesn't get lost in all of this crap.
What are you looking for that wrestlestat doesn’t have? I would think that site would be your go to…
 

cwobrien11

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What are you looking for that wrestlestat doesn’t have? I would think that site would be your go to…
It's a pain in the rear to navigate and/or find guys when you're looking for wrestlers that are not currently active. That's where I started before reverting to back to trackwrestling. It was just faster.
 
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cwobrien11

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Ya anytime I've done anything I'm stuck going through the school specific bios and that's not all that fun. Lol I know this is naive, maybe, but wouldn't it be nice to have a legitimate free and easy to interface with statistical database? Like almost every other sport I watch I could just go to sports reference or even ESPN, sort by a few dozen different stats and see information going back decades. Wrestling I hit paywalls and it never seems well organized.
It would be, but there's a ton of upkeep on creating/maintaining something like that...and there are far fewer people trying to search for it so the advertising revenue would be almost non-existent...not even sure it would pay for the web hosting.
 
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Mattski

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Look up rumors in the dictionary its right beside the thesuris if you are struggling with that. How many times on this board was something said about an iowa wrestler doing something and its just someone hearing something and repeating it. Wtf already. I could just say iowa is cheating and start spewing that **** all over. Someone will pick it up and repeat it as truth. Get the facts jack or you are just like everyone else on here full of **** lol
A-hole fans said the same when Sandusky victims started coming forward. These accusations came straight from a decorated former wrestler. If you don't like it, take it up with him.
 

MSU158

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It's a pain in the rear to navigate and/or find guys when you're looking for wrestlers that are not currently active. That's where I started before reverting to back to trackwrestling. It was just faster.
Depending on the browser you are using it really is only 1 extra step. Using google all you have to do is type in the person's name along with wrestlestat(.com) for those that are no longer active. Keep 2 windows open. 1 with wrestlestat and the other to "search". About as fast and easy as it gets...

Oh, and wrestlingstats.com has every bracket going back in time, so that is BY FAR the best source if you are simply looking for NCAA tournament results.
 

JoeBagobagels

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Seems odd that a 5x champ, that they paid well over a million to return for that 5th year, wouldn’t be on the NLWC roster, doesn’t it?

A-hole fans said the same when Sandusky victims started coming forward. These accusations came straight from a decorated former wrestler. If you don't like it, take it up with him.
People actually have taken it up with him, as far as I know it happens something like this: he claimed that Carter Starocci took his stuff. An investigation could not confirm that which lead to no arrests. Like it or not something that amounts to petty theft does not get the same attention and scrutiny they say well a murder.

I've had similar experiences you believe it happened, you can't prove it well enough, no charges filed.

All of a sudden, this mystery story comes with unconfirmed allegations. None of these ladies filed complaints with law-enforcement, which would probably still be within a statute of limitations, nor did they file a civil suit.
It was straight up ********. And that's how the story ended.
 

Mattski

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People actually have taken it up with him, as far as I know it happens something like this: he claimed that Carter Starocci took his stuff. An investigation could not confirm that which lead to no arrests. Like it or not something that amounts to petty theft does not get the same attention and scrutiny they say well a murder.

I've had similar experiences you believe it happened, you can't prove it well enough, no charges filed.

All of a sudden, this mystery story comes with unconfirmed allegations. None of these ladies filed complaints with law-enforcement, which would probably still be within a statute of limitations, nor did they file a civil suit.
It was straight up ********. And that's how the story ended.
There were a lot more allegations inside the wrestling program than just "he took my stuff" but again, this is what fanatics tend to do when their program comes under scrutiny.
What did Bartlett have to gain by just making this all up and if its all bullsheet as you say, why was Carter pushed out the door as soon as possible?
Common sense says Bartlett is the one deserving of being believed and frankly supported. Of course that's not in the DNA of your fanbase.
 

jimneffer

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There were a lot more allegations inside the wrestling program than just "he took my stuff" but again, this is what fanatics tend to do when their program comes under scrutiny.
What did Bartlett have to gain by just making this all up and if its all bullsheet as you say, why was Carter pushed out the door as soon as possible?
Common sense says Bartlett is the one deserving of being believed and frankly supported. Of course that's not in the DNA of your fanbase.
i have no idea what carter did or didn't do related to those allegations

but based on his social media history alone (aj ferrari and the pink *****, "pissing on graves"), i can imagine some reasons cael, casey, and the rest don't want carter as a veteran leader for the young guys
 

huntinghawk

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People actually have taken it up with him, as far as I know it happens something like this: he claimed that Carter Starocci took his stuff. An investigation could not confirm that which lead to no arrests. Like it or not something that amounts to petty theft does not get the same attention and scrutiny they say well a murder.

I've had similar experiences you believe it happened, you can't prove it well enough, no charges filed.

All of a sudden, this mystery story comes with unconfirmed allegations. None of these ladies filed complaints with law-enforcement, which would probably still be within a statute of limitations, nor did they file a civil suit.
It was straight up ********. And that's how the story ended.
You mean the investigation where the cops couldn't find Carter.. For the investigation that narrowed it down to being Carter or kasak as being the only two who entered the locker room. You're the typical Penn State cover up queen.
 
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Misalorales

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It would be, but there's a ton of upkeep on creating/maintaining something like that...and there are far fewer people trying to search for it so the advertising revenue would be almost non-existent...not even sure it would pay for the web hosting.
Ya that stinks.