OT: Notre Dame Not Happy

MADHAT1

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Well the NCAA should fine Notre Dame kike they did Kansas and Iowa State.
Also every 5-7 program that days it won't go bowling deserves punishment.
Naotre Dame might be a sore loser and not deserve what they're mad about not getting, but
what makes me mad is a 3 loss program that didn't win its conference championship being picked over a 5 loss ACC Champ that didn't deserve a spot but was more deserving ( in my opinion) then a 3 loss Bama squad .
Also feel Miami deserved its spot more than Notre Dame , but the imitation Irish deserved in the playoffs more than the 3 loss low Tide did..

Since loses don't matter for some and are the reason other are left out, let the playoffs be changed to 9 conferences have auto bids for their conference champions ( no matter what their W-L record) and add 7 at large bids .

edit, it was pointed out to me that the NCAA didn't fine Kansas and Iowa State, it was their Conference that fined them.
Here's what Iowa State said to Kansas after they received notice they would be fined
 
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RU#1fan

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So, are you in favor of not letting G5 teams
In ever?
I’m in favor of letting the best 12 teams in.
How did Boise St. and SMU do last year? Both blown out.
Wanna bet we see the same this year with James Madison and Tulane ?
 

RU#1fan

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Well the NCAA should fine Notre Dame kike they did Kansas and Iowa State.
Also every 5-7 program that days it won't go bowling deserves punishment.
Naotre Dame might be a sore loser and not deserve what they're mad about not getting, but
what makes me mad is a 3 loss program that didn't win its conference championship being picked over a 5 loss ACC Champ that didn't deserve a spot but was more deserving ( in my opinion) then a 3 loss Bama squad .
Also feel Miami deserved its spot more than Notre Dame , but the imitation Irish deserved in the playoffs more than the 3 loss low Tide did..

Since loses don't matter for some and are the reason other are left out, let the playoffs be changed to 9 conferences have auto bids for their conference champions ( no matter what their W-L record) and add 7 at large bids .

edit, it was pointed out to me that the NCAA didn't fine Kansas and Iowa State, it was their Conference that fined them.
Here's what Iowa State said to Kansas after they received notice they would be fined

So we should be fined and punished?
 

RUFANCT

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I agree - join a conference. bIG invite has been there for years.

wonder how much of this is them a) throwing a fit, or b) admitting that bowl season is bs and kids and coaches need a break especially with the early signing day and time lost to evaluate portal talent with bowl prep.
Remove RU, put in ND. Great idea for all BIG sports.
 

RUFANCT

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I agree - join a conference. bIG invite has been there for years.

wonder how much of this is them a) throwing a fit, or b) admitting that bowl season is bs and kids and coaches need a break especially with the early signing day and time lost to evaluate portal talent with bowl prep.
Would make sense for all sports in the BIG, RU out and ND in! RU has shown year after year not to be able to compete in the BIG.
 

jsol_05

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They should have been in the B1G decades ago. They didn’t join because of $$$/tv contract issues- what a surprise. They can cry a river. I don’t hate ND but they always think that things should be slanted their way- it didn’t work out that way.
Don't think the are crying, they are negotiating a new TV contract ptobsbly be worth about 60 -75 mil a year, Their prigram valuation is 1.85 nil. They are letting the NCAA know that ND doesn't need them , they need ND. Think about this there is what 32 teams in the NFL. I can see a future where the top 30-35 football set up a league like the NFL, play their games on Saturday, maybe a Sunday night and Wednesday night game. They would break off from the NCAA some might think I am crazy. But let me ask you this, if in 1995 someone would have said in 30 years college players will be making millions to play college football you would have said they were crazy.
 

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Don't think the are crying, they are negotiating a new TV contract ptobsbly be worth about 60 -75 mil a year, Their prigram valuation is 1.85 nil. They are letting the NCAA know that ND doesn't need them , they need ND. Think about this there is what 32 teams in the NFL. I can see a future where the top 30-35 football set up a league like the NFL, play their games on Saturday, maybe a Sunday night and Wednesday night game. They would break off from the NCAA some might think I am crazy. But let me ask you this, if in 1995 someone would have said in 30 years college players will be making millions to play college football you would have said they were crazy.
Well there is certainly whining. ND apparently needed the ACC conf regarding their entire sports portfolio. Not sure that their football program on its own will be able to fund the many other sports. That aside, I don’t disagree with your idea about the possible future of the sport, with 30 or so schools setting up a separate league. What connection that would eventually have with universities/ education is anyone’s guess. At that point, just set up a a professional club league with teams representing different areas of the country.
 

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Rankings aren’t actually suppose to mean anything until the last one because the information is incomplete until all the games are played. Not sure we’ll see the weekly shows go away but there’s more clamoring for it. ESPN did pay for it.



 

iReC89

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I think ND was also afraid might lose a game that could hurt their fragile image. It's one thing to lose to another playoff team, it's another to lose Vanderbilt or any of the other top 13-25 teams.
 

Knight Shift

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Rankings aren’t actually suppose to mean anything until the last one because the information is incomplete until all the games are played. Not sure we’ll see the weekly shows go away but there’s more clamoring for it. ESPN did pay for it.




 

kupuna133

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Yea it’s the ACC’s fault! It’s one thing to turn down a meaningless bowl at 5-7, 6-6 when the team was eliminated for a week or 2. It’s another thing to turn down a top tier bowl. Just goes to show how bad the powers that be f’d up with the playoff/NIL/bowl selection process.
 
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Knight Shift

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Yea it’s the ACC’s fault! It’s one thing to turn down a meaningless bowl at 5-7, 6-6 when the team was eliminated for a week or 2. It’s another thing to turn down a top tier bowl. Just goes to show how bad the powers that be f’d up with the playoff/NIL/bowl selection process.
It's been discussed to death, but the notion of having two G5 teams in the CFP while Notre Dame (and arguable Texas) are out of the CFP seems off in some way.
 

kupuna133

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It's been discussed to death, but the notion of having two G5 teams in the CFP while Notre Dame (and arguable Texas) are out of the CFP seems off in some way.
Neither ND, or Texas deserve to be in any National Championship discussions. The problem is there are too many teams now included in the “playoffs”. They screwed it up royally last year with the seeded teams. And this was the solution. Having Miami in over ND is the real argument. If ND was in a conference they would be in. This was meant to force their hand.
 

Glenngut

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Would've been an amazing bowl game to set up BYU vs ND. However, the P4 conferences all have 1 representative on the CFP and ND has 1??!! How does that happen...juice. they also have their own TV deal...ND. So the CFP is slanted to them getting in every year. Well...not this year...BOOHOO! Schedule someone other than cupcakes to play. Not impressed with Miami...but they won...and USC...not like they were ever rated in the top 10. Don't like that they were left out??? ND was over rated. Bye...have a nice off season.
 
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Caliknight

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ND schedule is a joke next year. SC is the o tot real game. They better go undefeated.

That SC game is historic for both schools but there’s a lot of pressure from the B1G to make thst OOc game early in the season. They do not like having anything but conference games played once that portion of the schedule starts.
 
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Don't think the are crying, they are negotiating a new TV contract ptobsbly be worth about 60 -75 mil a year, Their prigram valuation is 1.85 nil. They are letting the NCAA know that ND doesn't need them , they need ND. Think about this there is what 32 teams in the NFL. I can see a future where the top 30-35 football set up a league like the NFL, play their games on Saturday, maybe a Sunday night and Wednesday night game. They would break off from the NCAA some might think I am crazy. But let me ask you this, if in 1995 someone would have said in 30 years college players will be making millions to play college football you would have said they were crazy.
FND!!!
 
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MADHAT1

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rutgersguy brought this up in one of his posts , mine just showing an article about the imitation Irish's AD not being happy with the ACC over their treatment of ND.
"We didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly and compared to Miami, not by Miami, Miami has every right to do that. But it raised a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots at us."

The Big East is smacking its lips hoping Notre Dame decides to look for a way out of their agreement with the ACC
 

MADHAT1

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Looks like I;m not the Lone Ranger when I think the imitation Irish got a raw deal
>Some folks might look at Notre Dame's decision to back out of a bowl game as sour grapes or perhaps being a poor sport.
Maybe it is.
But it is also justified.
It is also very understandable from Notre Dame's perspective.<


 

MADHAT1

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Looks like in 2026 it will be harder to snub Notre Dame
> It's unclear if Bevacqua was supposed to disclose the MOU between Notre Dame and the CFP committee, but it's certainly a development to follow going forward, especially if the committee continues to reach controversial decisions in its selection process.<
 

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rutgersguy brought this up in one of his posts , mine just showing an article about the imitation Irish's AD not being happy with the ACC over their treatment of ND.
"We didn't appreciate the fact that we were singled out repeatedly and compared to Miami, not by Miami, Miami has every right to do that. But it raised a lot of eyebrows here that the conference was taking shots at us."

The Big East is smacking its lips hoping Notre Dame decides to look for a way out of their agreement with the ACC





 

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My CFP Playoff solution is as follows: Expand to 14 teams from 12, the same way the NCAA Hoops tourney expanded to 68 from 64. Have a "play-in' weekend, the week before the CFP Playoffs start. 11 plays 14, 12 plays 13. Winners advance to the last 2 spots of the tourney. This allows you to keep G5 teams in, presumably they'd be in the play-in games against at-large P5 teams like ND.

This weekend we should have Tulane play BYU and James Madison play ND. The two winners are in the final 12 playoff. G5 still has a chance (albeit smaller chance) and there are less at-large teams left out and sad. The bonus for the CFP is they get 2 extra games to pump for TV audience and extra revenue.
 

MADHAT1

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So we should be fined and punished?
if the Big Ten expects all its members to represent them in post season play and is willing to cover the cost along with eat the tickets , school is liable for, not sold a fine is fine in my book.:p
But that should be for bowls that are affiliated with the B1G others school choice without penalty for not going if invited,
The Schools I mentioned and wrongly accused the NCAA for fining them were schools being fined by their conference for not being willing to accept a bowl invite from bowls the B-12 is contractually obligated to send teams to .
When I posted the message you;re basing your question about, I didn't research the issue and found
my implications about it were off base.
But if Rutgers refused to play in a bowl game the B1G was tied into, yes RU should be fined.
The B1G isn't tied into the Birmingham Bowl, so no harm , no goul.
 

tru2ru1

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So we should be fined and punished?
The Birmingham Bowl has no affiliation with the B1G, they are scrambling to find any team willing to play there. Totally different from Iowa State and Kansas State, since both turned down bowls affiliated with the Big 12
 
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