Declining to play in a bowl after being left out of the playoffs. Time to join a conference
OT: Notre Dame Not Happy
- Thread starter Rutgers Chris
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Spoiled brats. Good stay home. Play someone , add Oregon to schedule.
They are correct.
The Playoff format is BS
ND would mop the floor with Tulane or James Madison
The Playoff format is BS
ND would mop the floor with Tulane or James Madison
Don't play the garbage ACC schedule.
Don't worry, next year they're guaranteed a spot if they're in the top 12. Who bent over for that concession?
I agree - join a conference. bIG invite has been there for years.
wonder how much of this is them a) throwing a fit, or b) admitting that bowl season is bs and kids and coaches need a break especially with the early signing day and time lost to evaluate portal talent with bowl prep.
wonder how much of this is them a) throwing a fit, or b) admitting that bowl season is bs and kids and coaches need a break especially with the early signing day and time lost to evaluate portal talent with bowl prep.
With no conference and therefore no bowl tie in contracts, if they played in any bowl game besides the playoffs, it probably would have cost money to go. They probably want to use that money instead for NIL. This is more about them not being in a conference, and also the non-playoff ball game payouts are probably less and less.
They should have been in the B1G decades ago. They didn’t join because of $$$/tv contract issues- what a surprise. They can cry a river. I don’t hate ND but they always think that things should be slanted their way- it didn’t work out that way.
The playoff system was created to allow as many schools as possible to QUALIFY for the playoffs. It was not designed to have the best 12 teams.
For example, in MLB before there were wildcard teams, the winner in each of the four divisions qualified for the playoffs. There were numerous times when the runner-up in a specific division had a much better record than the top team in another division.
Also, before the NCAA basketball tournament was expanded in the 70s, only conference winners received a berth in the big dance. The runner-up in many of the top conferences were on the outside looking in despite being much better than lesser teams who qualified for a bid.
lol ND. They take 12 because it’s hard to pick the right top 4. Nobody should care about the last 4 in one way or another. ND lost to 2 teams in the playoffs already. Cry harder.
So, are you in favor of not letting G5 teams
In ever?
The 5 top rated conf champions having a guaranteed spot in the playoff was included to get the “group of 5” conferences to support the expanded playoff. It was done to give some legitimacy of a national playoff. If the Go5 believed they would be de facto excluded from the playoff , they would not have apptoved the format. I suspect that if this gets expanded to 16 teams, there will be some similar provision for the GO5 conferences.
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If you shut them out there’s always a threat of lawsuits and outside interference (gov’t).
Inclusion vs exclusion, the way to deal with it is even more expansion (which is likely). Then the teams allowed in on the backend are less consequential.
Arguing over the teams at the back isn’t as big a deal as making sure all the top level teams in a given year are in and they always will be whether it’s 12 or 16 or 24.
Not an imitation Irish fan, in fact they're on my do not like list!
But I feel they got shafted and have every right to be pissed.
This is an attempt to force Notre Dame into joining a conference by leaving them out and letting them know without saying so: we'll put an undeserving P-4 program ahead of you every chance we get unless you put your football program in a conference and it better be a P-4 one , or you'll continue to receive this type of treatment..
It's also another example of how College Football bows down to some Alabaman) major programs when it comes to punishment or rewards .
When programs like Alabama get caught breaking the rules , their punishment is like a slap on the wrists compared to what UAB would get.
Now the playoffs are being tilted towards to who the P-2 commissars want in .
As fot not accepting a Bowl Bid Notre Dame should go to a major bowl that agrees to a multi year deal that puts them in anytime they don't make the playoffs and are bowl eligible .
The Rose Bowl might be a good fit for that
edit: I imagine the players were asked how they felt about turning down bowl invites after the Notre Dame team was so disrespected, I feel deciding right after receiving such devastating news wasn't the best move and Notre Dame's powers to be should have told the players talk it out for a couple of days and get back to us with your decision ,knowing you'll be supported however you choose .
But I feel they got shafted and have every right to be pissed.
This is an attempt to force Notre Dame into joining a conference by leaving them out and letting them know without saying so: we'll put an undeserving P-4 program ahead of you every chance we get unless you put your football program in a conference and it better be a P-4 one , or you'll continue to receive this type of treatment..
It's also another example of how College Football bows down to some Alabaman) major programs when it comes to punishment or rewards .
When programs like Alabama get caught breaking the rules , their punishment is like a slap on the wrists compared to what UAB would get.
Now the playoffs are being tilted towards to who the P-2 commissars want in .
As fot not accepting a Bowl Bid Notre Dame should go to a major bowl that agrees to a multi year deal that puts them in anytime they don't make the playoffs and are bowl eligible .
The Rose Bowl might be a good fit for that
edit: I imagine the players were asked how they felt about turning down bowl invites after the Notre Dame team was so disrespected, I feel deciding right after receiving such devastating news wasn't the best move and Notre Dame's powers to be should have told the players talk it out for a couple of days and get back to us with your decision ,knowing you'll be supported however you choose .
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I grew up an ND fan before going to rutgers. I still have a soft spot for them. They lost to the team that was chosen ahead of them. I don’t think it’s all that complicated
It's not Miami going instead of themn that bothers me, it's a 3 loss program being allowed in and SOS might be the reason , but I still feel it;s a BS move to do so and claim the ACC's 5 loss champ is out because it lost too many games.
I do feel James Madison deserved to be picked over Duke and Duke was undeserving BUT Bama got a whooping it's last game and still got invited,
Duke won it's Conference, so should have been taken instead of the low Tide
This. Cry all they want to but they don't deserve it!
A guaranteed Rose Bowl when they are bowl eligible and not in the playoffs ..Wow, no favoritism from you [/sarcasm].
They got left out because they lost to Miami early this year. The 2 schools had the same record. Their strength of schedule, strength of record and other metrics were very close. Miami actually did better score wise against common opponents. Miami should never have been ranked behind ND after they lost 2 games later in the season. It’s not some conspiracy to have them join a conference.
BYU has more of a case than I realized
+1
Not being in a conference:
ND = FAFO
Conference are becoming more and more important.
They have more of a case bitching about Bama, but even that is weak. Can't hold this weekend's loss too much against them since most teams were sitting at home.
09/06 - vs Wisconsin (in Green Bay, WI)
- 09/12 - Rice
- 09/19 - Michigan State
- 09/26 - at Purdue
- 10/03 - at North Carolina
- 10/31 - vs Navy (in Foxborough, MA)
- 11/07 - Miami (FL)
- 11/21 - Boston College
- TBA - SMU
- TBA - Stanford
- TBA - at Syracuse
- TBA - vs USC
ND schedule next year. They will easily make playoff.
Separate issues:
1. Being upset about not getting the playoff spot. Fine.
2.Taking your ball and going home. Not fine. Lame for all schools ND, RU and everyone to decline no matter what level bowl. Wrong message. Winning isn’t everything in life. There should be a penalty: a fine, loss of a scholarship…something.
1. Being upset about not getting the playoff spot. Fine.
2.Taking your ball and going home. Not fine. Lame for all schools ND, RU and everyone to decline no matter what level bowl. Wrong message. Winning isn’t everything in life. There should be a penalty: a fine, loss of a scholarship…something.
Stupid response
what does that say to recruits, seniors or parents? Bunch of babies, hopefully they get a decommit or two out of it
Don't want them in B1G