OT: Franklin Canned!!!
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Treatment of Alumni has always been pretty bad at Rutgers and is a big reason we have so many issues. Think about how many Alumni even on this board that are such huge fans- please tell me anything Rutgers does that really makes you feel like they want you as a part of the school or do you initiate finding events or get togethers that are not a part of a fund raising event and that is the only time anyone ever reaches out.
Even for letter winners- I remember that I was surprised that the football players had to pay for tickets when they come back but for the first 4 years after leaving, they can request on the sideline access as long as they paid for their ticket.
And the school and coaches really only reach out to the players that were the big stars. Even when they did the 10 year of 2006- so many of the players never even got an invite to it.
It really shouldn't matter what a person's skin color is, should it? I couldn't care less about the sex, race, gender, skin color, ethnicity breakdown, identity, etc. and IDGAS. Why exclude an eminently qualified applicant because of some identity feature?
Wasn’t just out of state students getting preferential admisssion. . Can’t tell you how many times classes I wanted to take were full only to find out that foreign students didn’t have to abide by normal registration practices. They registered prior to general students.
Well I guess we know now the real reason Franklin was expelled.
The way Rutgers treats in state applicants especially the sons and daughters of Alumni made him an undesirably part of Jappy Valley.
Seems to be that or the issue the OP of Penn State firing its football coach to how bad Rutgers admission policy is
I say Rutgers shouldn't allow Franklin admission into it's football program and stop complaining about Greg when there's a bigger issue to complain about , like how Rutgers doesn't take care of the sons and daughter of Rutgers alumni
Of courses that's nothing to ignore and a BS move by RU ,but kind of funny how this frankllin got canned thread has been hijacked into Rutgers didn't want my kid even though I graduated from Rutgers.
But it's a legitimate complaint and worth talking about in a football related thread, because the way Rutgers treats its alumni is a big reason Rutgers football doesn't get the type of loyalty and support from RU grads that the Nits get from Penn State grads .
The way Rutgers treats in state applicants especially the sons and daughters of Alumni made him an undesirably part of Jappy Valley.
Seems to be that or the issue the OP of Penn State firing its football coach to how bad Rutgers admission policy is
I say Rutgers shouldn't allow Franklin admission into it's football program and stop complaining about Greg when there's a bigger issue to complain about , like how Rutgers doesn't take care of the sons and daughter of Rutgers alumni
Of courses that's nothing to ignore and a BS move by RU ,but kind of funny how this frankllin got canned thread has been hijacked into Rutgers didn't want my kid even though I graduated from Rutgers.
But it's a legitimate complaint and worth talking about in a football related thread, because the way Rutgers treats its alumni is a big reason Rutgers football doesn't get the type of loyalty and support from RU grads that the Nits get from Penn State grads .
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Remember your story too. We've shared those same stories on those threads.
And I know this story from KS too. So sad. WTF is wrong with them?
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I like Jerry Neuheisel from UCLA. He will be HC somewhere next year.
I'd like to see the math on that one. Between D3 football, soccer, hoops, hockey, lacrosse, baseball and track there are about 1200-1500 teams which have head and assistant coaching positions along with supplies and facilities
Man I wish we could play northwestern this week!!
That’s not unusual but how much they can save is unknown. Frankly, he can go to a beach if he wants. I’m not sure those mitigation clauses are enforced that much and it’s probably easy to make it look like you’re looking even if you don’t actually want any job.
It’s a matter if/when he wants a job and how much a new school would like to save on PSU’s dime. I think a new school could get away with paying 3-4M/yr as a decent market rate for him as a HC.
Agreed. Mitigation clauses are hard to enforce. And he has to “look for a job”. Market rate is open for interpretation. Said job doesn’t have to be a head coach or coach at all. He could go TV route. Working as a talking head a couple of times a year. He could go the analyst route with one of his buddies. Ala coach saban. If I were Franklin. I would take this year and probably next off and give a high hard one to PSU. Then I would evaluate if I want to coach again. If not go the speaking/television route.
Wait...What? You got commitments from people to support the program to the point they actually wrote checks and Rutgers did not do anything? I have got to hear this story. If you do not want to retell it post a link to the thread it is in. Unreal...totally believable because it's Rutgers and totally believable.
Is he currently the defensive coordinator at OSU? Not hard to do your own research prior to posting. But okay.
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Yes and not much more to tell. Had multiple dinners downtown for young and NYC alumni. I helped arrange attendance and set up the dinners. People pledged real time a commitment some wrote checks. Many were setting up multi year giving commitments with corporate matches. Foundation and athletics dropped the ball. Some of the commitments went through but many dropped off because no or minimal follow through.
one case I knew about and used a google search to find details, this is what I found .
>A dispute arose regarding former Arkansas head coach Bret Bielema's buyout agreement after his firing in November 2017
. The Razorback Foundation, which is the university's athletics foundation, agreed to an $11.935 million buyout, with monthly payments of $320,000, which was to continue until December 31, 2020, or until he found a new, comparable job.
The buyout agreement included a clause requiring Bielema to seek employment. However, in January 2019, the Razorback Foundation accused Bielema of failing to make diligent efforts to obtain replacement employment and demanded he return more than $4.2 million already paid to him. The foundation filed an amended counterclaim, alleging that Bielema violated his contractual obligation to find a new job and receive market-based pay. One of the Foundation's arguments centered on the claim that Bielema's salary with the New England Patriots, whom he joined in 2018, was kept purposely low.
Bielema responded by filing a lawsuit against the Razorback Foundation in federal court in Arkansas, seeking over $7 million in unpaid buyout payments. He alleged that the Foundation breached the buyout agreement by discontinuing payments.
The two sides eventually reached a settlement in April 2021. The Razorback Foundation agreed to make a final payment of $3,529,167 to Bielema. Bielema, in turn, released the Foundation from $3,850,000 in payments. Both parties were required to dismiss their lawsuits and bear their own attorneys' fees. As a result of the settlement, the Razorback Foundation ultimately paid Bielema a total of $8,085,000 out of the initial $11,935,000 buyout agreement.
Bielema was hired by Illinois on Dec.19th ,2020 Illinois announced they hired him. He was given a 6 year contract at $3.75 mil a year, plus bonuses<
Yea. And Arkansas got taken to the woodshed in the coaching and Agents circles. They difn’t come after him until after he took another gig and they still settled at 50%. Like I said. I would Take the 2 years “looking”for a job. Can’t find a suitable job and find a gig doing what you want. If PSU makes it hard settle at that point.
Any chance of that happening has to be done one the NCAA rule level. The problem with that is that the Supreme Court already ruled it was illegal for the NCAA and its members to collude to control salaries.
Yeah, I realize that would probably trigger some sort of antitrust challenge. There are probably ways for schools to informally agree, but that would be messy and still subject to challenges.
No collusion necessary, just a little brains lol. If some idiot wants to throw away millions of dollars let them. Why do you have to follow suit, especially if you’re a place with less.
ADs act like they have no leverage on these premium scarce jobs that pay millions of dollars. There are qualified people out there who will take them. Everyone isn’t a Saban so no need to bet the farm on anybody. If they want to go let them. More often then not they don’t do anything special at the next stop.
Success is more often fleeting than sustained so don’t pay like it. When you achieve it, give a massive bonus and when you don’t then back down to some reasonable base. Fairness to both parties and fiscal sanity don’t have to be thrown out the window.
Someone shared an opinion on Reddit. Looks like Franklin’s contract is pretty broad where it pertains to the Mitigation clause. No timeline given and needs to look for offsetting job in media or coaching. No stipulation for minimum pay.
I don’t think the statement RU put out excludes any person. The message was to the underprivileged kids to try and their application will be considered. Schools all over the country reject eminently qualified applicants. That’s life. At the end, it sounds like everything worked out for your son.
"Just a little brains" could lead to a lot of legal fees with respect to collusion
University administrators fear the legal fees monster under their beds. See the Mike Rice debacle and how it was handled. Ironically, the fired the guy who wanted to fire Mike Rice and retained the guy who said don't fire Mike Rice.
Barchi had the uno reverse card. Don’t you know how negotiations work?
wait, are you arguing that Rutgers is not/was not giving preferential treatment in admissions to minority candidates?
Hope you guys can bring this to the new AD.. maybe it is a new world.
QUESTION: So much has changed since I was a young student back in the stone age.. do grads of the last decade or so have different experiences and opinions re: Rutgers Screw or Rutgers in-general? There have been dorm improvements, recreation improvements, etc etc.. are alums coming out now with some feeling of loyalty and fond memories and their degree was worth something that has set them up for life.. or is it more of having survived that place?
yep.. barchi tucked his balls until the mob asked for his job. and the lawyers always seem to just want to cut checks or heads or cut heads then send em checks. R marketing experts hire marketing consultants.. or executives hire executive search firms.. then ignore their work product. Nuts, indeed. (though this time, with Zinn, it may have worked.. but only because Prez Tate had worked with her before)
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Shelby doesn’t agree. How many other blueblood programs haven‘t won during JF’s tenure ? Plenty of good coaches don’t win nattys.
The notion that JF isn’t a good coach is just plain idiotic
1 Big Ten Championship in 2016
7 New Year's Six bowl games
101-42 overall
64-33 BT
CFP National semi finalist.
at RU this would have led to several parades and bells ringing.
1 Big Ten Championship in 2016
7 New Year's Six bowl games
101-42 overall
64-33 BT
CFP National semi finalist.
at RU this would have led to several parades and bells ringing.
That happened three years after he left Ohio State. It literally couldn't have had anything to do with Greg being fired or, alternatively, leaving because he was offered the Patriots DC job.
And at a school that fills 100k seats- travels like crazy- crazy cult like fanbase and alumni, supports the football team to the detriment to everything else, money for top coaches, a name brand that top players come to play at...
He should have found a way to win the big games. Heck- even Michigan wanted Harbaugh out after a NC. I don't think OSU really wanted Meyer there much longer either...