Hawks v Clones
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I have no confidence in the Hawks winning in Ames.
Please let me be wrong.
Please let me be wrong.
The hawks will tighten things up, play much better and win.
Kansas St had to score late iirc to beat N Dakota, not N Dakota St, but N Dakota. KState gave up 35 points to SDakota, I dont think that is very good. ISU only scored 24 against KState.
Maybe NDakota is pretty good, I dont know and looking at scores of other games can only give you so much info early in the year.
Iowa has very good special teams, Iowa has always seemed to shut down ISU's running game even Montgomery and Hall. Iowa will need to do that again but more importantly get better pass rush pressure.
If Iowa can get 125 yards passing and 200 rushing they can win as the hawks usually dont turn it over very much and make penalties.
Kansas St had to score late iirc to beat N Dakota, not N Dakota St, but N Dakota. KState gave up 35 points to SDakota, I dont think that is very good. ISU only scored 24 against KState.
Maybe NDakota is pretty good, I dont know and looking at scores of other games can only give you so much info early in the year.
Iowa has very good special teams, Iowa has always seemed to shut down ISU's running game even Montgomery and Hall. Iowa will need to do that again but more importantly get better pass rush pressure.
If Iowa can get 125 yards passing and 200 rushing they can win as the hawks usually dont turn it over very much and make penalties.
I see one of two outcomes- a win or a loss.
Win = improved QB play +stifling defense
Loss = SOSO QB play + poor defensive play
Win = improved QB play +stifling defense
Loss = SOSO QB play + poor defensive play
I predict the Hawks will lose 23-17 and fans will blame it on the defense because they couldn't stop ISU from mounting a game winning drive while ignoring the fact that only 5 teams out of 134 won a game while scoring less than 20 points that day.
We have an edge in special teams….kickers are even, but our punter and return game is better.
Our run game on O is better than their run D, but their pass D is better than our pass O.
Our run D is better than their run O, but their pass O is better than our pass D.
All in all, a pretty even matchup, which means it’s going to come down to TO margin like it usually does.
I think we pull it out 23-21.
Our run game on O is better than their run D, but their pass D is better than our pass O.
Our run D is better than their run O, but their pass O is better than our pass D.
All in all, a pretty even matchup, which means it’s going to come down to TO margin like it usually does.
I think we pull it out 23-21.
Not sure how much you can make out of the ISU/KSU game. Conditions and the field were terrible.
A couple of points, ISU took a knee at the KSU one yard line to run out the clock and win the game, they could have easily scored again. Didn't have too so they didn't. The Squawks special teams will not be better than ISU on Saturday, the kicker for ISU hit a 63 yard field goal Saturday, remember him, he hit the game winner last season of 51. ISU returned a punt for 99 yards, but he stepped out of bounce and it was called back by review so only 60 yards. We also have a decent punter.
ISU will crowd the box and stop the run, you are already down one RB, so unless your QB had a hiccup Saturday, it's going to be a long day for the squawk offense. Your DBs have shown they cannot stop anyone throwing the ball down the field, Rocco will be one of the better QBs the squawks face this season. I get the feeling that a lot of squawk fans will be on here Saturday night crying about how ISU can find really good QBs and look at what we have.
The way to beat ISU is the one thing the squawks do poorly, that is passing the ball down field, unless that improves, ISU will stop the run enough to get the win.
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Again...we've all seen this ISU-Iowa movie before. As much as You want to look at each team and say one is better than the other, you can throw that all out this week.
It will, as usual, come down to special teams play and turnovers. It happens every year. It will be close. I say MG proves doubters wrong this week and we control the LOS and win 23-20. Drew Stevens kicks a 50+ FG for the win late.
It will, as usual, come down to special teams play and turnovers. It happens every year. It will be close. I say MG proves doubters wrong this week and we control the LOS and win 23-20. Drew Stevens kicks a 50+ FG for the win late.
It's a great sports cliche', but not exactly. With a few exceptions the better team usually wins. Rarely does Iowa lose to ISU and go on to have a great year.
Last 5 losses to ISU Iowa's season record was...
2024 8-5 (Iowa choked a game they should have won)
2022 7-5
2014 7-6
2012 4-8
2010 7-6
If Rocco Becht has a good day, ISU wins. Quarterbacks matter.
In a way I’m glad we had a bad start. Film to review and some yelling. Man did Levar Woods go off on his unit once when they came off the field in first half. All this is nothing a good *** chewing won’t make better.
As long as the gap in qb play isn’t significant Iowa will win. The problem is the gap in qb play will be significant.
I think we hold advantages in trenches which is always critical.
Our D line was supposed to be the strength of the D. They didn't look that dominant Saturday. Truth is, we don't know. Albany is not a good team.
I don’t think Epenesa rotated in at all did he? Anyone got the snap counts for D Line?
Kansas State is a mediocre team. Dropped INT, Brian Ferentzish play calling and a horrible spot on 4th and 2 kept them from beating ISU.
North Dakota was 5-7 last year and should have beat KSU (pre-season Big 12 favorite) on the road with a rookie coach and rookie QB.
Two things you can likely count on, though. Game will be close and ISU fans will be insufferable d'bags.
As of 10:00 the votes are 14-10 ISU. Can't remember that last time most of us expected to lose to them. Very telling.
Lolol.. Like Stevens is any less? He made that one Sat from 56 but it would have been good from over 65 easily. He kick 65 yarders in practice regularly and that one Saturday would have been good from there as well. They have no advantage in the kick game and we have the better punter and the Jett winner from last year in Wetjen. Want to bet they don't kick it anywhere near him Saturday. Thats what Albany did the whole game. Kicked both of their kickoffs out of bounds rather then let him field the ball.
That many fans here think the sky is falling after one game we won by 27 points? Not really.....
Dude, we beat an FCS team picked to finish near the bottom of their conference by 27. That's nothing to thump your chest over. ISU won 55-7 over the #5 ranked FCS team and looked good doing it.
looks to be a poor matchup for us this year. we don’t have big play capability on offense (no kaleb type, nor do we have a long ball catcher) while having no lockdown corner to blanket their primary wideout.
conversely they appear to have a really good qb who can turn it around even after doing poorly for a couple quarters.
game will depend on how much fire the iowa defense shows and whether it can play through some adversity
we have a chance in a classic kf style hold isu to less than 17 points game. 20+ and we are toast
conversely they appear to have a really good qb who can turn it around even after doing poorly for a couple quarters.
game will depend on how much fire the iowa defense shows and whether it can play through some adversity
we have a chance in a classic kf style hold isu to less than 17 points game. 20+ and we are toast
The final was 55 to 7, but ISU did look sharp on offense the entire game and Becht was out of the game in the 3rd quarter. SD moved the ball right down the field passing the first series they had the ball and scored to tie it up at 7. ISU then scored to go up 7 and SD again was moving the ball and throw a pick around the 20, on a horrible throw and it was over. ISU scored again to go up 21-7, the defense clamped down and SD looked lost the rest of the game on offense. ISU played mostly reserves starting half way through the 3rd quarter and the rest of the game.
If the Squawks can bleed out the clock get a few TOs and keep the ISU offense off the field they can win, you guys have to keep it low scoring unless ISU turnovers gets you points.
First no ones "thumping their chest", and ISU and Iowa were not playing last week. I do love the "picked near the bottom, or top in the pre season ranking for FCS," like that means much the first week of Sept. We'll see what happens after Iowa has a week to stew over this. Honestly, many here need to work in the yard on Saturday and wait to watch the replay later so they don't stroke during the game.
You said we "won by 27", as if it was significant. There are a few FCS programs that you say "Ok, they'll be a decent opponent". Albany is not one of them.
At some point, do you not tire of a team that comes out looking like it hasn't practiced when so many others come out aggressive and sharp? A 27 year tenured coach should be delivering the later...not the former.
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KF still should have went for the 66 yard FG to end the game last season.
By 27 points over Albany. Until Iowa scheduled them, I didn't even know there was a thing called an Albany, and I've been following college football for awhile. Albany . . . give me a break. They were 4-8 last year and play in a facility with 8,500 seats. Iowa has no business playing the likes of an Albany, or a UMass, for that matter, but those two wins will put KF over the top. Getting more than a quarter of your wins against teams like that would make anyone proud . . .
His foot hit out of bounds and the replay overturned his run back. The point is many Squawks fans see your punt return game as a huge advantage and it's just not. The same kid also had another nice return. The special teams will be a push both ways, both are very good and not an advantage for either side. This game will come down to QB play and turnovers. Becht will be good, the question is can the squawk QB come close to matching him. ISU will take away your running game, you will still get yards, but without a decent passing game ISU will crowd the box and force you to beat them through the air.
Iowa’s D-line needs to be disruptive. Hopefully Lewellen, Graves, and Hurkett can get to Becht and force at least one turnover inside the 20.
Hall is going to get picked on I think. Hopefully X does not get out of position often.
Offense must get in the end zone and not bog down in the redzone.
O-line will need to be nasty and own the LOS. Think we need 225 rushing yards.
Hoping Wetjen gets a couple chances and has some good return yards to set up a short field.
I predict 31-19 Clones. I want to be wrong.
Hall is going to get picked on I think. Hopefully X does not get out of position often.
Offense must get in the end zone and not bog down in the redzone.
O-line will need to be nasty and own the LOS. Think we need 225 rushing yards.
Hoping Wetjen gets a couple chances and has some good return yards to set up a short field.
I predict 31-19 Clones. I want to be wrong.
It's the capital of N.Y. . It's really lovely out that way in the Fall. You should check it out sometime. Ithaca is spectacular as well.
Just remember you lost to Spencer Petras and Cade McNamara in Ames with Brian Ferentz as OC.
I think Iowa wins by 10 or so - 31-21.
Iowa seems to be dialed in better on the road, especially in Ames lately. Less pressure for MG & ISU makes some egregious mistakes in front of their fans.
Iowa seems to be dialed in better on the road, especially in Ames lately. Less pressure for MG & ISU makes some egregious mistakes in front of their fans.
All I am saying is if Iowa state needs a long field goal their guy has a good leg.
I truly have no idea how the game will play out, In years past I felt Iowa had a clearly superior team and it didn’t play out that way. It’s a rivalry game and you just never know.
The old saying, and I think it is entirely appropriate for the Ferentz Hawkeyes, is the more things change, the more they stay the same. New QB, same as the old QB. The only way this turns out OK for the Hawks is that Ferentz allows the offense to open up a bit. We've all heard about Gronowski and his passing talents. It's time to take advantage of that and not just try and bull the ball down the Clone's throats. I anticipate a finish similar to last season. Hopefully we will have the last possession.
Exactly, which has been my point. Anyone who thinks they can predict how this game will go is smoking something, and yes that goes for you @somewhereiniowa