Robbinsville at Eastern Randolph
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Outside of Andrews has Robbinsville played anyone with a winning record?
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Yes according to Maxpreps Asheville, Smoky Mountain, Hayesville, Murphy. I think I remembered all. Guys correct me if I missed any team please
Are you trying to start WW3???
When that schedule was announced, it looked really ambitious at the time. Not really their fault that Mountain Heritage and Brevard are both a little down from what they've been recently.
The only Robbinsville game I've attended was a classic against Mt Airy in the playoffs that Mt Airy won final minutes. I remember the RV in the parking lot a Robbinsville fan that flashed the lights when they scored. Good team that year running back played at Campbell.
ER definitely had tougher schedule
Well the reseaon ER is #1 was because of the owp of their RPI.
I know this is high school not college and you can take this with a grain of salt just did it out of curiosity but since I don't know like MaxPreps strength of schedule formula one I could look up was the NCAA formula so using that....
Eastern Randolph's would be 0.56532
Robbinsville's 0.55767
I know this is high school not college and you can take this with a grain of salt just did it out of curiosity but since I don't know like MaxPreps strength of schedule formula one I could look up was the NCAA formula so using that....
Eastern Randolph's would be 0.56532
Robbinsville's 0.55767
Ok BK…
I’ve read your comments on this a lot this year but never seen how you define it.
What is SOS.
Well it's not OWP that's for sure. We already seen how it failed.
It had Hayesville ranked really high when Hayesville had only played homeschool and charter schools.
OWP has also been way off the other rankings systems.
The evidence is out. This system is a flop.
Robbinsville definitely had the tougher schedule
It had Hayesville ranked really high when Hayesville had only played homeschool and charter schools.
OWP has also been way off the other rankings systems.
The evidence is out. This system is a flop.
Robbinsville definitely had the tougher schedule
When you play charters and homeschool teams that play other charters and homeschool teams this system will rank you high. OWP has nothing to do with SOS. It's not rocket science guys.
I understand the point you are making here but I’ve also seen Maxpreps mess before and totally disagree with it. SOS, as I have said before, is so subjective it’s just ludicrous. No one knows until after the year is over and all results are in who played the “best” teams. Seems like NCHSAA system has got it fairly close to correct most of the time. But I could be wrong I guess
You can choose the one that has your team playing the toughest schedule if you want to.
I'm not picking one but I do know that all the others have been close to each other all year. This new system has finally caught up a little.
Why settle for that. I mean if you play weak teams that play other weak teams and it ranks you as having a tough schedule then it's has a flaw. A team could actually schedule a weak schedule that would get them a high seed and a undefeated record.
I'm not picking one but I do know that all the others have been close to each other all year. This new system has finally caught up a little.
Why settle for that. I mean if you play weak teams that play other weak teams and it ranks you as having a tough schedule then it's has a flaw. A team could actually schedule a weak schedule that would get them a high seed and a undefeated record.
Who decides strength of opponents? That’s what makes it subjective. Not saying current system is perfect, as you outlined in an extreme example it does have its flaws. It is however based in math rather than how someone feels about it. Problem, to me, with other organization’s rankings are no one knows what goes into their criteria for determining SOS. At least the one we are using is transparent.
Who cares if it's transparent.
So you would rather it be off as s long as it's transparent. The others may not be transparent but I've never seen either of them have a team like Hayesville as high as this system did when we could see that Hayesville had played one of the softest schedules at that time.
So you would rather it be off as s long as it's transparent. The others may not be transparent but I've never seen either of them have a team like Hayesville as high as this system did when we could see that Hayesville had played one of the softest schedules at that time.
Frankly I care. But everyone is different.
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Here's the thing with me on strength of schedule. I showed what it would be under the NCAA it's very simple
2 ( owp) + (oowp) ÷ 3 now how they come to that not sure they probably give an explanation somewhere and wether it's the best or I don't know. Thing is with MaxPreps or Massy who bty sometimes don't agree I don't know what they're formula is much less how they come up with it. And why is it assumed theirs is better than the NCAA?
Seems to that everyone just picks the one they like that goes with their bisa opinion.
As far as that goes I assume MaxPreps and others have a formula but without showing me what it is I am just supposed to take their word that they really have one? If so why so secretive?
As far as teams playing charter schools I have just as much issue with figuring out a teams sos when they're playing teams in TN & GA.
2 ( owp) + (oowp) ÷ 3 now how they come to that not sure they probably give an explanation somewhere and wether it's the best or I don't know. Thing is with MaxPreps or Massy who bty sometimes don't agree I don't know what they're formula is much less how they come up with it. And why is it assumed theirs is better than the NCAA?
Seems to that everyone just picks the one they like that goes with their bisa opinion.
As far as that goes I assume MaxPreps and others have a formula but without showing me what it is I am just supposed to take their word that they really have one? If so why so secretive?
As far as teams playing charter schools I have just as much issue with figuring out a teams sos when they're playing teams in TN & GA.
All the others are very close to one another.
On SOS.
They are sometimes different on rankings.
I've never seen any SOS with Hayesville so high after an obvious weak non schedule except the current one. It also had MIC high. None of the others did. Proof is in the pudding as they say.
On SOS.
They are sometimes different on rankings.
I've never seen any SOS with Hayesville so high after an obvious weak non schedule except the current one. It also had MIC high. None of the others did. Proof is in the pudding as they say.
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I watched a little bit of MA on YouTube and I’m just not seeing what you are seeing. Very good team for sure and they will very likely beat Hayesville, but I don’t see a team that’s on “another level” than the best the SMC has to offer in any given year. This year Andrews is the best the SMC has to offer. If Robbinsville was healthy, they would be right there as well. I see a very close game that could go either way if MA and Andrews end up playing.
We are talking about 2 different teams with 2 different schedule. Its hard to schedule down here when there no big big schools around you the biggest one near is Ashville and we played them no one wants to play and lose to a 1a team. With biscuit being back Robbinsville looks way better taking all that pressure off there RB and QB. Robbinsville QB I think is playing lights out if Robbinsville defense show up to play the it will be a dog fight. Respect for ER there the number 1 seed for a reason but can they get past one of the 3 titans of the SMC I guess we will have to see friday night at ER
Don't really know what pudding you're looking at. If you look at the whole RPI not just the owp but the oowp as well MaxPreps and RPI as far as Hayesville and MIC is pretty much on par plus if you combine the East & West RPI final rankings like MaxPreps they're not that far off infact MaxPreps ranks them higher in RPI Hayesville would be #17 & MIC #26 MaxPreps has them #12 & # 22.
Robbinsville bty would be #7 in both. They swap Andrews & ER. Thing is with MaxPreps sos for Andrews being so much worse and only one more wining game than ER's why do they have them ranked #1 and ER #2? Again it's a mystery formula. Plus they have Tarboro #6? In the RBI combo they would be #3.
Both I said if you take in consideration the opw & oowp in the RPI Hayesville & MIC sos would be pretty much on par with MaxPreps but the reason you do sos is help come up with rankings. Also if you are taking out opinion and just doing a mathematical formula you can not do any sos without including owp & oowp they are the only two variables it's just a matter of what other digits and arithmetics you plug in to the formula.
I stick by it bro. Mt.Airy's A game will be the best that Hayesville has likely played against....I look at it this way..its tough comparing scores....but EW and Murphy were pretty much a stalemate..both teams have personnel that weren't a 100%. Mt.Airy could have put 80 on EW...well they almost did 62-7. Murphy destroyed Robbinsville...so for what it's worth..tough to use..but real numbers..Andrews beat Robinsville and Murphy..All 3 would likely beat EW..but not by 60...Styles do make fights however.
How much does SOS matter? In my opinion you’re either good or you’re not. It doesn’t matter who you’ve played.
the SMC is not built around passing its around grinding the clock out and beating down on the other team instead throwing the ball around there offense scoring 35 is like MA scoring 50 and numbers do not matter tell that to the Mitchell last year when they lost to Andrews and then they got beat by starmount and Mitchell beat MA but MA destroyed starmount
Well for seeding purposes you kinda have to have a ranking system do ether you do like the NCAA and do an opinion pole or you do some kinda mathematical formula which usually has to involve sos.
But that said Tarboro usually doesn't have a great sos but in the end of the season they usually show that it doesn't always matter that for sure lol.