Daily Tracking the NET: now 102
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Miss. St up one over No. 5 Tenn late, if not for a horrific week losing to Southern and GA Tech they’d be top 15. At least every team we’ve lost to OOC has really turned it on
You're missing 1 game (OSU at home), as the above games would only be 9-6 on top of 1-3 to go 10-9 in the B1G., plus our 2nd game with IL is away not at home. If we finish out 9-7 that puts us at 18-13/10-10 with a bunch of quality wins, presumably, so we'd likely improve our NET greatly and be on the bubble, needing at least 1 maybe 2 tourney wins to get in, but I just don't have confidence we're good enough to go 10-10 in conference. I'm much more worried about only getting 6-8 B1G wins right now, although last night certainly helped provide more hope for the rest of the season. We'll see...
Wisconsin and Purdue at the RAC are must wins for Any bubble chance at 18-13/19-12 and 10-10, 11-9 records. Will need a couple HIGH signature wins on the resume. Also, would need to avoid a loss to Michigan Penn St and prob MD, theyre all going to end up as Q3 wins/loss opponents, Minn too likely
Carino said 18-13, NIT, which now seems about right. Team will at least be in the NCAA conversation. After being snubbed last year, despite Big Ten tournament win over Michigan, I am convinced conference tournament wins are relatively meaningless towards selection.
Note that all of the losses so far, except Iowa, but including pre-season St John’s, are all teams projected to make the tournament. So technically the uphill climb is not as steep as that in 2021-22. Of course that team had Caleb, Ron & Geo..
More important is the development of key role players for next season. Carolina went from national runner-up, to not making the tournament, to now being a projected 2 seed. So next year’s team is very capable of making a deep run, but that is determined by the progress of key players this year. Simpson, even in off games, is showing a knack for a guy down the stretch, whether it be big buckets or free throws. Mag, JMike, etc also will be key.
Indiana win was key to getting this team, and fans, on the right track. We will see what happens the rest of the way. It will be interesting, especially without all of the unnecessary pressure of the back to back to back expectations put on last years team..
Note that all of the losses so far, except Iowa, but including pre-season St John’s, are all teams projected to make the tournament. So technically the uphill climb is not as steep as that in 2021-22. Of course that team had Caleb, Ron & Geo..
More important is the development of key role players for next season. Carolina went from national runner-up, to not making the tournament, to now being a projected 2 seed. So next year’s team is very capable of making a deep run, but that is determined by the progress of key players this year. Simpson, even in off games, is showing a knack for a guy down the stretch, whether it be big buckets or free throws. Mag, JMike, etc also will be key.
Indiana win was key to getting this team, and fans, on the right track. We will see what happens the rest of the way. It will be interesting, especially without all of the unnecessary pressure of the back to back to back expectations put on last years team..
People get optimistic quick.. we are still a 6-8 win Big Ten team imo until proven otherwise. The super doomsday 0-2 win scenarios were always silly but beating Indiana at home is still consistent with a 7-13 campaign.
But I hope we do better obviously.
But I hope we do better obviously.
Agreed, the Indiana game didn’t change things much, good to get a win of course. They were just less worse than Indiana the other night. Indiana almost looked like one of the OOC cupcakes we play early that are 250+ in the NET. They were terrible, turnovers, airballs, a ball grab ejection, and couldn’t make a free throw. A win is a win and this team needed it, but if RU were to go out to Michigan State and get a win there that would grab attention. Not saying they will win, just that it would put their season in a different light at this point.
Winning road games is super important to achieve a winning season and possible post season tournament selection.
That's why the SHU road win could be very important should the team turn things around and get to 10 or more B1G wins, including 1-2 more road wins...
Yes, the way I look at it, if we lose a home game, we have to win one on the road to offset it, in order to be 10-10.
We also don’t want to lose any games that are less than Quad1. Right now all our losses are Quad1, with IL at home, and the other 5 away from home.
The Seton Hall hate in the Net is ridiculous. Other teams make huge jumps but not them. They beat UConn , they beat Marquette, they beat a ranked Providence team at the time. UConn is 8 today , Marquette is 19 and Providence is 54. They were higher when they beat them. Other than Purdue and North Carolina not many teams have better wins.
agree...likely due to huge Q4 win and a 37 point win at Q3 Murray St. The losses in Q1 all pretty close but at some point you have to have wins....its not a ncaa resume at all and probably Indiana as a better resume.
yeah its weird...i realize the non conference sos is 220 but they have 3 Q1 wins, while teams in the top 10 net can lose to teams in the 70s and 80s and not fall off, something needs to be tweaked
beating awful Gtown by only 4 hurt
they need to win at least 2 of them
they have a brutal 7 game stretch later in the year where they are at UConn, Nova, Creighton, SJU with home games vs nova, butler, xavier
after looking at their schedule, im less bullish on them
I see 19-12 and right on the bubble
they have a brutal 7 game stretch later in the year where they are at UConn, Nova, Creighton, SJU with home games vs nova, butler, xavier
after looking at their schedule, im less bullish on them
I see 19-12 and right on the bubble
Damn. Hopefully they move up again. Meanwhile, time for us to pull some upsets.
Also, I suppose in a circular way we would be helping SHU’s net by winning ourselves. So every RU win is like a double benefit to our net (assuming SHU doesn’t fall too far going forward).
Rutgers could move up alot if they beat Michigan State on the road by 20
its that there is something in the ingrediants that is questionable...we have yet to determine exactly what that it is
Seems like a combo of MOV and blended average issue to me.
It’s no secret I’m not a fan of NET. Wish they would’ve tried to fix the pure results Based RPI system’s flaws rather than scrap it entirely. But if adjusted efficiency is going to be a factor the blend should at least be based on median not average to mitigate the impact any one favorable or unfavorable match up can have on the numbers. I’m guessing it’s not.
They would probably get somewhere in the range of a 12 to 20 spot jump if they pulled that off. Stranger things have happened, Big Ten results are strange this year…..the bulk of the conference is a mess this year and it feels like the majority of the conference can lose to anyone, any game, played anywhere. A few are immune from this, but we just saw how bad Indi looked, then they just beat Minnesota……look at Nebraska, they beat Indi by 16, next game lose by 16 to Wisc, then they beat Purdue by 16, then they lose by 18 to Iowa…. I don’t think RU is great this year but neither is the majority of this conference so I do see a few more wins coming than I thought for RU due to the unpredictable nature of Big Ten teams performance this year. Trying to predict how some of these teams will perform this year is like a schizophrenic on an Easter egg hunt, it’s all over the place.
First look….I’m absolutely convinced that 10-10 from anyone in the big ten is NOT gojng to get a bid unless they win the RIGHT two games in the big ten tourney
Must think 11-9 of you are a RU fan….and then MUST get a Thursday win in big ten tourney (against a 10, 11. 12 opponent )….and play well on Friday in the quarters ….
8-3 plus 11-9 plus 1-1…..20-13…that’s what to be thinking if we want to dance . 19-14…is gonna be the samw crap as the last two years all over again
Must think 11-9 of you are a RU fan….and then MUST get a Thursday win in big ten tourney (against a 10, 11. 12 opponent )….and play well on Friday in the quarters ….
8-3 plus 11-9 plus 1-1…..20-13…that’s what to be thinking if we want to dance . 19-14…is gonna be the samw crap as the last two years all over again
Why do you think we moved up 5 spots? What actually happened for that to occur?
We truly need to beat MSU tomorrow and build some momentum.
Would be great to win the B1G tourney and just get an autograph bid
You are correct. The formula is not biased for or against any particular team. Whether it’s a good formula is up for debate though.
Iowa beat the crap out of Nebraska and Indiana handled MinnyWhy do you think we moved up 5 spots? What actually happened for that to occur?
We truly need to beat MSU tomorrow and build some momentum.
Would be great to win the B1G tourney and just get an autograph bid
Interesting…I mean I get it based in those two teams we played but I would have thought a Miss St win over #5 Tennessee or SHU over Top 10 Marquette would have moved the needle more for us. Again both a loss and a win
I'd sign up for thatWhy do you think we moved up 5 spots? What actually happened for that to occur?
We truly need to beat MSU tomorrow and build some momentum.
Would be great to win the B1G tourney and just get an autograph bid
I don't think tourney results matter. Haven't seemed to last few years.
You mean beating a mediocre Michigan team didn’t matter because Rutgers got crushed by Purdue in the next game.
Was never a one possession game down the stretch…and Purdue was really only playing for seeding. In hindsight they probably wish they had lost and dropped down a few seeds.
I was just referring to our overnight movement up from 91 to 88. Those other games obviously didn't factor into that.
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