Illinois -4.5

zappaa

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Jul 27, 2001
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https://marathonhandbook.com/why-legs-feel-heavy-when-running/

7 common causes of heavy legs when running and how to fix them.

1. Poor Running Form
2. Excessive Weight Training
3. Overtraining
4. Not Enough Carbs and Iron
5. Dehydration
6. Sleep Deprivation
7. Poor Blood Circulation

I’ll take a dozen Domican’s playing ball with broomsticks and cardboard gloves… living in huts with dirt floors, no plumbing and drinking goat milk.
They’ll out run and out hustle all the 18 year olds paying attention to everything you just listed
 
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Arizona Knight

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Maybe this is my own fish story but I recall wrestling like five matches in a day at certain tournaments in HS. If I westled one period today I would expire. Oh to be a teenager again.
 
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fluoxetine

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Interesting we are now a 2 point bigger dog +5.5 vs +3.5 then vs Indiana, but the money line +190 is the same. Line indicate Illinois viewed more inconsistent then Indiana?
Illinois takes a lot more threes than Indiana, so it would make sense for them to be higher variance imo
 

zappaa

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Complaining about 3 days of rest lol. Whatever if we we at to be a top 5 seed we really need this game. Let’s get a win.
On this we agree.
No tired legs, no hurt backs, no this is a bad match up for us.
Win the damn game
Go RU
 

Scangg

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TJD didn't look tired against us after playing major minutes in a high intensity Purdue matchup off the same amount of rest last game

I'm about to be 39 and I had about 10 drinks last night waking up at 8am to play pickup bballl for probably 2 or 3 hours right now

These elite level athletes in their teens or 20s can handle it. The players on our team playing major minutes have been in college for multiple years now training to be able to handle it too. Caleb Paul Cliff have been doing this for multiple seasons
 
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dpwhite

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There is no issue, 3 days off and no major travel. I am 99% certain they stayed out in the Midwest after Tuesday night, instead of wasting valuable time flying back and forth. Most B1G teams are given one "back to back" road trip, to reduce travel/fatigue.....Maryland played a 9PM ET game at Minnesota this past Saturday night, before playing at Michigan State on Tuesday night at 9PM. There's no way Maryland would zig zag back and forth with a 3 day window of game days.

Illinois is defined more perimeter than the last couple of years when they had Kofi Cockburn. Stay with their shooters and make the guards beat us 1 on 1.
You'd be wrong. Judging by social media, they came back and then flew out again.
 

bethlehemfan

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Sep 6, 2003
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Not when you experience the mental and physical grind of playing 140 games in 142 days in the minor leagues, 11 hour bus rides on buses with no air conditioning, literally flee bag hotels on 10 dollars a day meal money.
Than go out and sweep a double header because you have the better players
Fair enough!
 

Anon1751594821

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Jul 28, 2001
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TJD didn't look tired against us after playing major minutes in a high intensity Purdue matchup off the same amount of rest last game

I'm about to be 39 and I had about 10 drinks last night waking up at 8am to play pickup bballl for probably 2 or 3 hours right now

These elite level athletes in their teens or 20s can handle it. The players on our team playing major minutes have been in college for multiple years now training to be able to handle it too. Caleb Paul Cliff have been doing this for multiple seasons
Agree totally Scangg. If somehow, we reach the final of the Big Ten Tourney and then lose in the NCAA's, GRF will say we lost because of being drained by how intense the tourney was and the players playing too many minutes.

We had rest after losing our first game against Iowa in the BIG tourney last year and then lost to ND in the play-in game.

If the players are not in good enough physical and mental shape, then that is on our training staff. These kids play endlessly in AAU games while in high school.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 

Scangg

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Agree totally Scangg. If somehow, we reach the final of the Big Ten Tourney and then lose in the NCAA's, GRF will say we lost because of being drained by how intense the tourney was and the players playing too many minutes.

We had rest after losing our first game against Iowa in the BIG tourney last year and then lost to ND in the play-in game.

If the players are not in good enough physical and mental shape, then that is on our training staff. These kids play endlessly in AAU games while in high school.

Best of Luck,
Groz
We played March 6th, 11th, 16th last year to end the season. That's plenty of rest
 
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Arizona Knight

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TJD didn't look tired against us after playing major minutes in a high intensity Purdue matchup off the same amount of rest last game

I'm about to be 39 and I had about 10 drinks last night waking up at 8am to play pickup bballl for probably 2 or 3 hours right now

These elite level athletes in their teens or 20s can handle it. The players on our team playing major minutes have been in college for multiple years now training to be able to handle it too. Caleb Paul Cliff have been doing this for multiple seasons

**** doesn’t get real till you hit 40. Then things just start to hurt when you get out of bed. By 50, which I just reached, you now have colonoscopy’s. But I did play poker until 3am knocked a bunch of beers back with some buddies. It’s all good.
 

BKIn118

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No effin way. I don’t think there is any way R Hoops stays in the MW for 3 whole days and nights, away from classes (I know there is Zoom) and their own beds, own practice facility, when it is Indiana and back. 2 hours tops.

Don’t guess and say you are 99% sure. You are not sure.
Don't know where Hawk gets his info, but I can tell you that the team staying out in the midwest for several days between games has happened before (I've been on several of those trips). The caveat is that it occurs during breaks in classes, and very rarely during active class sessions or semesters.

In this case though, it was well documented on social media that the team had returned from IU and was preparing to head back out. Either way, I see this one being a tough ask for RU today. Hope to hell Im wrong!
 

RUbytheshore

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https://marathonhandbook.com/doms-guide-delayed-onset-muscle-soreness/

Most every long-distance runner has experienced DOMS, or delayed-onset muscle soreness:

they run a race such as a half marathon or marathon and they don’t have much muscle soreness the next day. They wonder, maybe they could have gone faster, pushed harder? Maybe they are invincible superheroes?

Then a day or so later, reality strikes: in the form of intense muscle soreness that renders them almost completely useless for several days.

This muscle soreness is called delayed-onset muscle soreness, or DOMS. And, running and DOMS almost go hand-in-hand.
 

zappaa

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https://marathonhandbook.com/doms-guide-delayed-onset-muscle-soreness/

Most every long-distance runner has experienced DOMS, or delayed-onset muscle soreness:

they run a race such as a half marathon or marathon and they don’t have much muscle soreness the next day. They wonder, maybe they could have gone faster, pushed harder? Maybe they are invincible superheroes?

Then a day or so later, reality strikes: in the form of intense muscle soreness that renders them almost completely useless for several days.

This muscle soreness is called delayed-onset muscle soreness, or DOMS. And, running and DOMS almost go hand-in-hand.
Here’s the phenomenon no one can pin point.
Why you wake up on race day, your legs feel like steel girders, your endurance and wind levels are incredible, you don’t have the urge to urinate and your recovery seems light.
You repeat the exact same routine for your next competition, and on race day you feel like a bag a ****😊
Same is true for everyone during daily workouts and every other sport you play.
Personally I think it’s body chemistry and no one has figured out how to control it anymore than you can control a good or bad hair day.
FYI, some of the greatest sports performances in history have occurred when the person is “ under the weather”
Ben Hogan once said he feared players who were fighting the flu or a cold….lol
 
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fluoxetine

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history have occurred when the person is “ under the weather”
Ben Hogan once said he feared players who were fighting the flu or a cold….lol
I’ve often found that a slight discomfort, enough to notice but not enough to really physically impede performance, helps. I think because focusing on it stops overthinking