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RUfanSinceAnderson

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Another “road game”. Have to think team is tired. Hope they re energize for next week. I will be rooting my heart out but feel we lose by 10. I have been wrong before, happily.
 

NewJerseyHawk

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There is no issue, 3 days off and no major travel. I am 99% certain they stayed out in the Midwest after Tuesday night, instead of wasting valuable time flying back and forth. Most B1G teams are given one "back to back" road trip, to reduce travel/fatigue.....Maryland played a 9PM ET game at Minnesota this past Saturday night, before playing at Michigan State on Tuesday night at 9PM. There's no way Maryland would zig zag back and forth with a 3 day window of game days.

Illinois is defined more perimeter than the last couple of years when they had Kofi Cockburn. Stay with their shooters and make the guards beat us 1 on 1.
 

G- RUnit

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So MSU got a week off to prepare for RU and then a home game after the Garden
Indiana got two home games in a row while RU traveled within 48 hours after Garden.
Illinois got two home games in a row and then when Minnesota canceled got seven days to prepare for Rutgers.
Rutgers got three games away from the RAC in a week. Traveled back and forth to Midwest twice in one week.
B1G Official claimed Rutgers game fit in game at Garden because “logistics” worked. B1G has Rutgers’ best interests at heart.
But I’m beating a dead horse. SMH.
 
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fatsam98

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There is no issue, 3 days off and no major travel. I am 99% certain they stayed out in the Midwest after Tuesday night, instead of wasting valuable time flying back and forth. Most B1G teams are given one "back to back" road trip, to reduce travel/fatigue.....Maryland played a 9PM ET game at Minnesota this past Saturday night, before playing at Michigan State on Tuesday night at 9PM. There's no way Maryland would zig zag back and forth with a 3 day window of game days.

Illinois is defined more perimeter than the last couple of years when they had Kofi Cockburn. Stay with their shooters and make the guards beat us 1 on 1.
RU actually did fly back and forth.
 

Anon1751594821

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Jul 28, 2001
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There is no issue, 3 days off and no major travel. I am 99% certain they stayed out in the Midwest after Tuesday night, instead of wasting valuable time flying back and forth. Most B1G teams are given one "back to back" road trip, to reduce travel/fatigue.....Maryland played a 9PM ET game at Minnesota this past Saturday night, before playing at Michigan State on Tuesday night at 9PM. There's no way Maryland would zig zag back and forth with a 3 day window of game days.

Illinois is defined more perimeter than the last couple of years when they had Kofi Cockburn. Stay with their shooters and make the guards beat us 1 on 1.
They came back to NJ. Did not stay.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 

Scarlet83

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There is no issue, 3 days off and no major travel. I am 99% certain they stayed out in the Midwest after Tuesday night, instead of wasting valuable time flying back and forth. Most B1G teams are given one "back to back" road trip, to reduce travel/fatigue.....Maryland played a 9PM ET game at Minnesota this past Saturday night, before playing at Michigan State on Tuesday night at 9PM. There's no way Maryland would zig zag back and forth with a 3 day window of game days.

Illinois is defined more perimeter than the last couple of years when they had Kofi Cockburn. Stay with their shooters and make the guards beat us 1 on 1.
No effin way. I don’t think there is any way R Hoops stays in the MW for 3 whole days and nights, away from classes (I know there is Zoom) and their own beds, own practice facility, when it is Indiana and back. 2 hours tops.

Don’t guess and say you are 99% sure. You are not sure.
 

JavaDunk18

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Need to watch out for Shannon (jr). Saw him play for Texas Tech at tournament in San Diego Last year. Was a really good get for Illinois. Tall guard that can shoot, we will miss Mag here..
Paul needs to play his February game tomorrow, Drive & score, or set up Cliff, or kick back to Cam, Andre, or Oskar!
 

Luvscarletknights

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So MSU got a week off to prepare for RU and then a home game after the Garden
Indiana got two home games in a row while RU traveled within 48 hours after Garden.
Illinois got two home games in a row and then when Minnesota canceled got seven days to prepare for Rutgers.
Rutgers got three games away from the RAC in a week. Traveled back and forth to Midwest twice in one week.
B1G Official claimed Rutgers game fit in game at Garden because “logistics” worked. B1G has Rutgers’ best interests at heart.
But I’m beating a dead horse. SMH.
Always a BIG conspiracy with you.

Yes we are the only team to ever play 2 games on the road and had to take a 3 hour flight home and back before our next road game.

Fire Pike...Fire Hobbs....

Did we not all make fun of Maryland coach for whining how the Big Least schedules better.
 

High Quality H2O

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There is no issue, 3 days off and no major travel. I am 99% certain they stayed out in the Midwest after Tuesday night, instead of wasting valuable time flying back and forth. Most B1G teams are given one "back to back" road trip, to reduce travel/fatigue.....Maryland played a 9PM ET game at Minnesota this past Saturday night, before playing at Michigan State on Tuesday night at 9PM. There's no way Maryland would zig zag back and forth with a 3 day window of game days.

Illinois is defined more perimeter than the last couple of years when they had Kofi Cockburn. Stay with their shooters and make the guards beat us 1 on 1.
Saw Wolf and Simpson at the womens game last night.
Safe to assume the whole team back in Piscataway.
 

rob kight

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We need to show that the team can overcome the loss of Mag. Saturday afternoon would be a great time to start. Let’s win and move on to a more reasonable schedule. Starters need to lead the way and the bench will follow.
 
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy

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Another “road game”. Have to think team is tired. Hope they re energize for next week. I will be rooting my heart out but feel we lose by 10. I have been wrong before, happily.
Tired thing is overblown. They're 20 year olds who play 30 minutes every 4 days.

These are kids who played 6 games over a single weekend at aau tourneys throughout high school
 

Scangg

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Mar 19, 2016
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Hawk just making things up lol

Shannon is awesome I saw him in San Diego st the tournament last year too

I saw Illinois board talking about Hawkins potentially guarding Paul. If that's the case, I'm worried
 

Kbee3

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Hawk just making things up lol

Shannon is awesome I saw him in San Diego st the tournament last year too

I saw Illinois board talking about Hawkins potentially guarding Paul. If that's the case, I'm worried
No Kofi has to make for a big game from Cliff.
 

fluoxetine

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Nov 11, 2012
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So MSU got a week off to prepare for RU and then a home game after the Garden
Indiana got two home games in a row while RU traveled within 48 hours after Garden.
Illinois got two home games in a row and then when Minnesota canceled got seven days to prepare for Rutgers.
Rutgers got three games away from the RAC in a week. Traveled back and forth to Midwest twice in one week.
B1G Official claimed Rutgers game fit in game at Garden because “logistics” worked. B1G has Rutgers’ best interests at heart.
But I’m beating a dead horse. SMH.
 

mikeyoc

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Apr 19, 2005
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We need to show that the team can overcome the loss of Mag. Saturday afternoon would be a great time to start. Let’s win and move on to a more reasonable schedule. Starters need to lead the way and the bench will follow.
We overcame his loss in the the 2nd half at MSG. Definitely possible
 

zappaa

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Jul 27, 2001
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Fatigue is definitely a factor in basketball that affects performance. How much it affects the score can be debated. Pretending it has no effect is not logical imo.
It’s far more mental than physical when you’re young specimens in superlative physical condition like college athletes.
No college basketball game should be decided by fatigue.
If the opposing team is deeper and able to substitute freely without much drop off in production…that’s a factor.
No legs is a completely collective old term that scientifically can’t be proven anymore than every player being in a shooting slump at the same time.
 
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biazza38

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So MSU got a week off to prepare for RU and then a home game after the Garden
Indiana got two home games in a row while RU traveled within 48 hours after Garden.
Illinois got two home games in a row and then when Minnesota canceled got seven days to prepare for Rutgers.
Rutgers got three games away from the RAC in a week. Traveled back and forth to Midwest twice in one week.
B1G Official claimed Rutgers game fit in game at Garden because “logistics” worked. B1G has Rutgers’ best interests at heart.
But I’m beating a dead horse. SMH.
Again, this is why I didn’t understand why some on this board laughed at Kevin Willard when he jumped all over B1G scheduling. What an absurd 8 days this was. And to top it off, our win against MSU was a “home win.” I can’t even tell you how pissed I am about this.
 
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RedTeamUpstream94

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Tired thing is overblown. They're 20 year olds who play 30 minutes every 4 days.

These are kids who played 6 games over a single weekend at aau tourneys throughout high school

Totally. I think some of us forget what it’s like when you’re 20 years old. You recover really quickly. Especially very in-shape d1 athletes

We all did things at that age without issue (eg, up really late drinking and get up and do some tiring physical activity- eg play basketball for hours). Today we would be laid out for days (I know I would)

I think some here look at things like this through the lens of their middle-aged or older bodies

Listen - I have no idea (like all of us here) about the mental state of the players but I think their mental state about the loss of mag could have a much bigger impact - do they rally and hustle (resulting in a tough road win) or do they feel defeated without his presence (loss). I would think that could have a far greater impact than the players being physically tired
 
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zappaa

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Again, this is why I didn’t understand why some on this board laughed at Kevin Willard when he jumped all over B1G scheduling. What an absurd 8 days this was. And to top it off, our win against MSU was a “home win.” I can’t even tell you how pissed I am about this.
Scheduling has a far greater impact on class work, practice time and winning on the road, than it does fatigue.
 

bethlehemfan

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It’s far more mental than physical when you’re young specimens in superlative physical condition like college athletes.
No college basketball game should be decided by fatigue.
If the opposing team is deeper and able to substitute freely without much drop off in production…that’s a factor.
No legs is a completely collective old term that scientifically can’t be proven anymore than every player being in a shooting slump at the same time.
Do you think it’s a factor in the big ten tournament when a team plays 3 days straight against a team that receives a double bye? I don’t disagree with what you said about mental versus physical but young or not I can’t wrap my head around no effect physically. It’s not logical to me.
 
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wheezer

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Jun 3, 2001
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So MSU got a week off to prepare for RU and then a home game after the Garden
Indiana got two home games in a row while RU traveled within 48 hours after Garden.
Illinois got two home games in a row and then when Minnesota canceled got seven days to prepare for Rutgers.
Rutgers got three games away from the RAC in a week. Traveled back and forth to Midwest twice in one week.
B1G Official claimed Rutgers game fit in game at Garden because “logistics” worked. B1G has Rutgers’ best interests at heart.
But I’m beating a dead horse. SMH.
Aside from the MSU game, doesn't the schedule becomes fair at the end? All BIG teams play the same number of league games, the same number of home versus away
Maybe a team has a tough stretch, but there us probably an easy one also
I think our ending stretch is an easier one
Some might consider that a good thing, possibly finishing on a winning streak
 

zappaa

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Do you think it’s a factor in the big ten tournament when a team plays 3 days straight against a team that receives a double bye? I don’t disagree with what you said about mental versus physical but young or not I can’t wrap my head around no effect physically. It’s not logical to me.
If just for the hell of it, you made the double bye qualifying teams play 3 games in three days and gave double byes to the lower teams the results would be the same.
😊
I definitely believe the deeper teams have a great advantage though
 

wheezer

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Do you think it’s a factor in the big ten tournament when a team plays 3 days straight against a team that receives a double bye? I don’t disagree with what you said about mental versus physical but young or not I can’t wrap my head around no effect physically. It’s not logical to me.
In baseball, the team with the worst record has to play more series, wildcard etc
Versus the team that finished first. A common thing to give the better finished an advantage as a reward for their season
Maybe a bit worse scenario in basketball
 

bethlehemfan

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If just for the hell of it, you made the double bye qualifying teams play 3 games in three days and gave double byes to the lower teams the results would be the same.
😊
I definitely believe the deeper teams have a great advantage though
Haha that was a little dodgy. All good and I agree most likely but it would be closer imo.
 
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bethlehemfan

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In baseball, the team with the worst record has to play more series, wildcard etc
Versus the team that finished first. A common thing to give the better finished an advantage as a reward for their season
Maybe a bit worse scenario in basketball
Basketball and hockey are of course much different than baseball.
 

Miggins

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Interesting we are now a 2 point bigger dog +5.5 vs +3.5 then vs Indiana, but the money line +190 is the same. Line indicate Illinois viewed more inconsistent then Indiana?
 

zappaa

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Basketball and hockey are of course much different than baseball.
Not when you experience the mental and physical grind of playing 140 games in 142 days in the minor leagues, 11 hour bus rides on buses with no air conditioning, literally flee bag hotels on 10 dollars a day meal money.
Than go out and sweep a double header because you have the better players
 
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Arizona Knight

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Do you think it’s a factor in the big ten tournament when a team plays 3 days straight against a team that receives a double bye? I don’t disagree with what you said about mental versus physical but young or not I can’t wrap my head around no effect physically. It’s not logical to me.

Didn’t Iowa win the B1G tournament last year and they didn’t have a double bye.