Fair enough that not everything needs to or should be called be a foul. If that's how they're calling the game. ok. We were hit with a couple whistles early in 2nd half that were ticky tack reach-ins, but by definition fouls.
Is Ron okay?
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They could have called a foul but in a game like that I wouldn't expect that whistle.
As some have said, the failure on this play was Ron not coming back to the ball. Full court press there and you are trying to inbound. Ron acts like he has time and space when he should be going hard to the ball to make sure he gets it
As some have said, the failure on this play was Ron not coming back to the ball. Full court press there and you are trying to inbound. Ron acts like he has time and space when he should be going hard to the ball to make sure he gets it
You seriously think ANY and ALL contact Is a foul? Players are contacting each other all game long. I could post a link to the rules Of what constitutes a foul . But instead I suggest you watch some basketball since apparently last night was your first time watching the sport . There is literally contact on every play all game long. That contact was beyond minor and not remotely close to a foul. I’m done this is absurd
I don't disagree, however, we were also destroying bodies going up for rebounds the entire game and IIRC didn't get called once for doing so.
Sure post a link on hand contact rules, especially the definition of "minor" contact lol. Thanks. Btw pretty sure I've been watching RU basketball longer than you genius.
So you're saying they should let that foul go uncalled "within the flow of the game", or it just wasn't a foul plain and simple?
You watched the same game I did. Saw the amount of contact all game long (on both sides). And you seriously think the refs should have called that?!? Ok. At least try to be remotely objective. You’re looking silly right now
I refer you to mildones excellent post below. If you can’t understand it after reading his post then you either can’t or don’t care to get it
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This. Our guys play hard and take no prisoners. If the refs wanted to, they could foul out several of our players each game. Last night, after Caleb got his 3rd foul, he barely adjusted his play and was bumping people the rest of the game. Was a miracle he didn’t foul out.
Teams that play really hard that way are gonna pick up fouls, but they, and we, usually make out okay because the refs don’t call everything. The refs usually call fouls when they think the contact has a material effect on the a play or sequence or shot. Or if they think a team is pushing the limits, they’ll call things tighter to calm things down.
I really wish some of my group chat friends would read these words lol!
You are seriously a clown. This discussion is absurd and a waste of time. No (1) it was not a foul and (2) if there was a little contact it was so minor that there is no way they could call in light of all the uncalled contact all f$&king game long. That’s it. I’m done. You’re an idiot
Harper shoots threes with two hands, all ten fingers, and two feet. Pretty lucky there are not more injuries being in this league of monsters.
Because it’s not.
You’re going on ignore.you can’t be this obtuseOK bud...waiting on your links defining "minor" fouls not to be called...
They were numerous and obvious. Most off the ball. He slammed into one guy from behind at mid-court and even did the obvious “I did nothing” arm spread thing that usually draws the foul call. No idea how that one didn’t get called.
The Illini got away with plenty too. But we were banging more then they were. Their coach has it right; we just played a lot harder than they did. And that’s why we won.
So the hand contact by Melendez on Ron there was a foul or no? If yes, a no-call would be OK? All I have been saying was that it was a foul, but that set some guys off for some reason.
Your edited post is hilarious: "No it's not a foul, but but but if it was, it was so minor in light of the game being called..." Still waiting for you rules link.....
All this bickering over whether it was a foul or not has hijacked and ruined this thread
It started out simple enough imo...not sure why a few guys got so jacked-up:
that’s what happens when you have one guy take an absurd, utterly unobjective, clueless position
everyone else disagrees with his ridiculous point but he digs his heals.
happens all the time. I realized he had no interest in reasonable discussion or sanity so I bowed out.
he’s now on my very short list of ignored posters
back to your regular programming….
I only saw it in real-time and didn’t notice a foul there. If Ron went to the ball instead of the guy coming up to it faster, it might’ve been more of a clear foul. But thecway it went down, it looked like a 50/50 ball with incidental contact.
Want to see a foul not called? Wait til Sunday when Edey’s elbows knock out Paul!
IF Ron went to the ball....not clear if Melendez gets him on the shoulder anyway. However IF Melendez doesn't make contact, Harper probably doesn't glance to his left taking his eyes of the pass for 1/10th of a second.
Whatever. Still strange that a few guys got so triggered for some reason with this, while others made reasonable comments.
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Or it was just a good play , distracted RHJ took his eyes off the ball and got his finger jammed. Think maybe? Bet if you asked Ron he'd say no foul also. RU plays physical. You can't ***** when the bad guys do it too.
I actually thought it was a good play watching it live.
The replay shows Melendez made contact a hair before Ron was set to catch it. So maybe it was a foul that 1) refs didn't see--which I have already noted--or 2) it was a foul but NO CALL was appropriate given the way the game was being officiated. #2 is a matter of opinion. But it's clear there was contact that disrupted Ron.
P.S, One dingbat poster says there's a rulebook for this LOL
nonsense.. you are just one of those guys who was taught to bend over and take it and never complain. you think it is unmanly to cry "foul".. even if there is a foul. You will never see anything called that was just too much for you... you'll never see anything as obvious bias.. whether intentional or not.
Watch the play again.. dude runs through Harper's elbow.. pushing his hand forward and in. And considering the foul differential at the time the THREE REFS should have been looking for fouls that Illinois committed since they had largely failed to do so for the entire half.
Yes.. on that one play I could see them missing the call... and yet it was a FOUL. Saying so should not be a big deal.. why make it so?
Not a foul.
Not triggered.. it is you guys who are triggered by someone mentioning it was a foul that was not called.
FOUL.. but it wasn't "hand contact".. it was forearm to Ron's elbow... which produced 2 things.. Ron's injury and room for defender's arm to get in there without hitting Ron's hand. He ran THRU Ron to get that ball. And it is not like that was the only call they missed or let play on.. there were many cases and that one might have been the hardest to get right.. it happened so fast and so oddly.. not the typical thing a ref could spot. While that excuses the NO-CALL.. it was still a FOUL.
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