Jalen Miller
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It was Mulcahy. He ran to the same man Harper was guarding and left Jordan B wide open. I just rewatched it.
Thank you. There were 2 of those in a row. Killed us at the time. Just when we had the O going a bit.
People are too critical of Miller. Frankly I think one of the key events that turned around our season was ridding Miller of his redshirt. At the time the team was lethargic on defense and played with little or no intensity. Enter Miller and his energy was contagious.
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Seems to me, the coaches decisions were based on defense. And that is what beat Iowa.
This team is about D first - comments criticizing offense from reserve players miss the point.
Yep. It didn’t show on a stat sheet so people won’t give any validity to that.
We can’t have our starting guys playing 36-38 minutes every game so Pikiell needs to find ways to get the bench in to minimally relieve them for a few breathers.
It happened twice. The first time it was Reiber and Coach Knight screamed at him as he ran back to the frontcourt. It was Paul the second time, which of course didn't evoke the same reaction from the coaching staff. Obvious double-standard.
While i agree there will be a roll for spot minutes. I think its becoming clear to Pike that to thread this needle the starters are going to be forced to play 35 minutes a game..some more. Im less enthused on the bench providing anything more than just a few buckets here and there and giving minutes without hurting the gameplan
All I know is if your dentist is named Rich / Richard / Dick and you are on this forum you need to think about making a switch
Some posters on here are relentless. They feel they must criticize one of our players all the time so they can be heard. Please let it go. Jalen plays tough in your face defense and energizes our team. He is an important plus ever since he began to play minutes in our games.
I generally agree with this. However coaches are not perfect, some have rigid systems and have an affinity for certain players that they feel work best within their system. It's why some guys can leave a team and prosper elsewhere - doesn't always mean the player is worse nor as talented - sometimes its just not a good fit or sometimes it takes a while for a player to "click".
I know its on a much much much lower level....but I've seen the same kid on 3 different teams under 3 different coaches (AAU, Travel and CYO) look like a completely different player from team to team. Competition level certainly factors in (all pretty good btw), but so to does how rigid the coach is in terms of what role he expects from the player and the fact if the kid will be pulled/benched if he makes a mistake vs. situations where the kid gets to play looser.
I like Miller… solid defender and brings energy
This. The few glimpses of Jones this season make it clear he's a bit lost on the court. Against conference opponents, he's given every indication of being a little overwhelmed by the game. Which happens with young players all the time, it's natural even.
That's not to say he won't become a great player. He could wind up being one of the best players we've seen in a long time. But a lot of that will depend on his mentality about the situation.
Some kids pout at the lack of playing time. Some kids use it as motivation to do everything the coaches say and work harder to improve. Without seeing him in practice, it's impossible to know what sort of player Jones is right now.
I hope it's the later and I hope he blossoms.
Totally agree. He appears to have a great attitude, brings great energy, is extremely competitive-minded, and in the way he responds when coming off the court and talking with coaches, or when his older teammates talk with him, he's a very coachable kid.
Easy to see why he gets minutes in these games. He's young and will make mistakes, but he's getting better and better by the game.
Agee was brought in because Pike thought Agee could score against the lineup Iowa had in. He did. We got the ball in to him right away when he entered the game.
The entire defensive identity change back to Pike ball coincided with Miller burning his redshirt
Agee can be useful in spurts against smaller teams. He just can't handle big true 5's in the B1G
Kyk actually called for Jones to play the 5 during the game thread. Wild take lol
no...if Jones plays, a different silly thread would happen
but I get it...message board and all...
all good.
He is not a real dentist. He uses that term because he enjoys causing us pain.
I thought he was brought in to replace Cliff when Cliff picked up his second foul? Dean already had 2.
I don’t care who the talking heads blamed but we run that same defensive set often. The guys playing 3-4 trap and clog the interior. The 5 is responsible for stepping out and getting a hand up to prevent the kick out pass shot when we run that. Again - Cliff stepped out in the second half and played stellar defense more than once in the second half on similar outlet passes to Bohannon.
I’m almost certain. My point wasn’t to rag on the kid but to point out he wasn’t brought in for any reason over Jones other than us running out of 5s and that happens to be his position. Neither of them have been playing because Pike values defense and they both struggle with it. And no matter what anyone on here tries to say, Agee did nothing in his 2.5 minutes on the defensive end to change that view. He contributed on offense with 4 points and RHJ knocked down a 3 during that stretch so playing Agee didn’t end up hurting us, but it’s simply not true to say he played good defense during his time in the game.
If almost like you refuse to watch what happened on that play. You are arguing about stuff that never happened on that specific play. There was no kick out pass. The ball stayed on the exterior and never went inside. Go back and watch the play or just drop it. You have your plays confused.
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Most dentists are very bright.
We unfortunately have the exception.
No one. But, this guy is saying he played horrible defense, is seeing stuff that never happened on the court and that Agee being on the court ignited an Iowa offensive run in those 2 minutes.
Agee hasn’t been good defensively all year. I don’t recall him making any mistakes in the 2-3 possessions he was in.
There lies the problem Psal, you can't remember what actually happened.
Cliff picked up 2 fouls and for some reason Pikiell put in Oskar. Iowa scores 4 quick points by Rebreca. A layup and a dunk, with Oskar watching him...lol.
Iowa 21-17......Pikiell puts in Agee. It's all on the ESPN play by play. Score is 27-24 at the half.
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Because the mistakes were not there.
When he is bad defensively it's been obvious from other games. Real obvious. There was no horrible defense in those 2 minutes.
They are both poor defenders. So Oscar was brought in first, stunk, and so then in came Agee. What’s the difference man? Sheesh. They play a different position from Jones where we have less other options for subs when there’s foul trouble - but all 3 are bad at defense which is the reason they are riding the end of the bench. That was my point.
In the first place I said “Iowa’s offense showed it’s only sign of life during the stretch we were forced to go to our deep bench and play Agee”. You can add Oscar to that statement if you like. I was referring to the end of the first half when we had to go deep into our bench up front. Iowa went into the locker room with some momentum on offense. I went on to say that since Agee hit a few baskets the defensive drop off in having to play him that stretch didn’t hurt us that much. That’s when you came at me pointing to the plus / minus which was ridiculous - considering we were discussing defense only and Iowa scored more than at other points in the game when Agee was playing.
It doesn’t matter where the pass came from - kick out, outlet, perimeter whatever. Our strategy throughout the game was to contain Murray’s short game using our 3-4s to keep him out of the paint. Resulted in a lot of assignment switches with the wings getting caught in the paint during the game. A better 5 would’ve been there on that bail out with his length to at least get a hand up. Agee tried - he was just late. You can say it was more someone else’s fault if you want, but he certainly didn’t help us on that possession. Agee’s shooting foul on Toussaint wasn’t good either. Those 2 things are basically the only things he did on defense because he was only in the game for 2.5 minutes. I’m still missing what the problem is with saying it didn’t hurt us that much having to play him since he contributed a few buckets on offense. How is that an unfair statement? He wasn’t “good” on defense and Cliff clearly was better. No?
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The defense definitely fell apart when Palm's came into the game. Agree, not sure if it was Palm's who was to blame, and we should note that Palm's was the 5 at that point as both Reiber and Cliff had 2 fouls. So he might not have been familiar with the centers responsibilities.