SIAP: Jacob Young considering Oregon?

Scarlet Shack

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Why can’t People see that Jacob young is a good player ...but not a complete player because his offense in the half court , for every good shot he breaks down an opponent of the dribble, also led to a drive that put messed up the floor spacing and required a low percentage shot that also had a low percentage for an offensive board ?
 

JMORC2003

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I think we also have to stop thinking that staying loyal to one team means something to kids. It’s a cultural shift. looking back on ones life and career, there’s more value in having been part of teams at Texas, RU and Oregon, than being part of a one team your entire career. Nothing wrong with it, just a different mindset.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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This is the best move for RU and Young....Oregon, Texas, Moscow Russia.....all the same to me....Jacob spent 3 years at RU and we have guards incoming that need to be developed for the next stage of winning. Would not trade Year 6 in college of Jacob Young for Year 1 for Jaden Jones or Jalen Miller, under any circumstances......the "best player stuff" rings hollow......didn't we hear that 2 years ago with Eugene departing and how "it was a slap in the face"......LMAO

Getting the right players who want to be here is always a good thing. Jacob Young was a hired gun.....he did his job, squeezed enough athletic ability out of an undisciplined player.

There's a reason why he has such a limited marketplace despite the "best-player nonsense ".....no one wants to take on the headache or does so with buyer-beware, written in bold bright colors on the box, before Amazon drops Jacob off at your practice facility.

You can't write the RU rebuild without including all of the variables that helped lift it from last place to NCAA participants without Jacob Young and his contributions.....but I can pretty much say that about all of the players who helped with the rebuild.

It's now a new age or phase of RU basketball and similar to Montez Mathis, you thank them for their efforts and hard work and move onto the next phase and next contributors.....I don't want Jacob Young back on the RU roster and I hope he kills it at Oregon and does his best.

I will say this, without too much research online or reading other message boards.....if you can't play or empty the teamwork tank for Shaka Smart and now Steve Pikiell, 2 of the nicest guys and good Head Coaches in all of College Basketball, what exactly is Jacob Young searching for.....??

Sometimes (Almost all the time) the answer lies in the mirror of the player himself.....Jacob Young at 24 won't quite understand that, Jacob Young at 44 or 54, when his kids are balling, will have to teach them.....is this all about me and shot attempts, commanding the ball, or is there a bigger goal out there, about the team concepts???

Dana Altman and Jacob Young will be interesting to watch happen. If he wants a shot a minute at Oregon, that's an offense you might get it in. Oregon won't win too many NCAA games with that formula, maybe Altman has other guards who shoot just as much as the next one, as soon as they get their hands on it.
Would you say the same for Geo?
 

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You might say Jacob leaving Rutgers for Oregon is acceptable because his brother Joe transfered to the Ducks from Houston to play for Altman and became a 3rd team All American and the PAC 12's POY in 2015
Joe Young was a 2nd Team All Pac his first year playing for Dana's Ducks
Joe never made it in the NBA drafted 2nd round.
But making 3 mil in China, now, and little brother might feel playing in Altman's system helped his big brother and might help his chances for a pro career in the NBA or good money overseas

So Jacob has good reason to look at the Ducks if he continues to play College Basketball.

Joe Young played 3 years in the NBA on Indiana.

Best of Luck,
Groz
 

Roy_Faulker

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Let’s be real honest here. It is obvious. Jacob and Eugene did not get along with the core of the team.

Or maybe it’s a member of the coaching staff. EO did seem to take a shot at Pike at one point. Maybe he/they play favorites…

Leaving cause you didn’t like the coach is a whole different ballgame.
 
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Whoa . What ??
it was his performance against minnesota that got us into the tournament for the first time in 30 years . That performance lives in rutgers lore. Like him or not , you can’t take that away


Everyone loves bringing up Minnesota but they never talk about the games when he played poorly or couldn’t execute. He was a disaster when executing when we had too except Minnesota. Big win but maybe could have got a couple more wins under our belts in the others.


I do not understand when people get upset. Jacob does not want to be at Rutgers. That’s ok. We want people who want to be here. Also Oregon has a better program than rutgers. You act like one round of 32 is going to overcome years of terribleness. Oregon goes to sweet sixteen every year since is was like 5. That’s an exaggeration but still almost true…

We need players who want to be here. Jacob does not. We are goin for be fine with or without Jacob.
 

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Or maybe it’s a member of the coaching staff. EO did seem to take a shot at Pike at one point. Maybe he/they play favorites…

Leaving cause you didn’t like the coach is a whole different ballgame.

Eugene took a shot at pikiell and Rutgers because he is an a**hole. For some reason caring spoke to him. Hot job by carino and if I was pikiell I would tell carino to kick rocks next time I saw him but pikiell is to nice of a guy to do that
 
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kcg88

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Eugene had his best offensive season in Oregon and gave credit to Altman for that. Chill out guys.
 
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RUInsanityToo

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Lots of people acting like they've been spurned by their ex and searching for reasons to make sense of it all.

JY is 24. It appears he wants to earn as a Bball player like Dad and his bros. He's already transferred once, so maybe loyalty or roster harmony has nothing to do with this. If his first intention was to leave to dip his toes in the professional waters only to find out a lukewarm reception, maybe its a simple as he's looking to maximize his potential professional options and he feels the promises made at a place like Oregon offer his best chance.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Everyone loves bringing up Minnesota but they never talk about the games when he played poorly or couldn’t execute. He was a disaster when executing when we had too except Minnesota. Big win but maybe could have got a couple more wins under our belts in the others.


I do not understand when people get upset. Jacob does not want to be at Rutgers. That’s ok. We want people who want to be here. Also Oregon has a better program than rutgers. You act like one round of 32 is going to overcome years of terribleness. Oregon goes to sweet sixteen every year since is was like 5. That’s an exaggeration but still almost true…

We need players who want to be here. Jacob does not. We are goin for be fine with or without Jacob.
1. Please stop minimizing what Jacob brought to the table. He played extremely hard while the core of the team, quite frankly, didn’t most defensive possessions.

2. How do you know Jacob doesn’t want to be here. Maybe he doesn’t like his teammates OR maybe he thought the coaches played favorites and he wasn’t one of them.

3. Stop it with we need players that want to be here. We need players here that are tough, play hard, and don’t pout when they miss shots.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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I just don’t think it’s a good look for Rutgers if an impact player like JY leaves for another school that’s not even a blue blood after such a successful season. It wasn’t a good look when Eugene left either. But that wasn’t a winning team so you chalk it up to wanting to make the tourney. Nobody knows the reason JY doesn’t want to return, but to say it doesn’t reflect poorly on RU that he wants to play for a different college after leading RU to its first tourney bid in 30 years is just denial. That’s all. If we make the tourney without him next season anyway which I believe is very possible then it doesn’t matter. I’d still rather us plaster pictures of Ron or Geo in tribute of the season though if JY is sporting an Oregon uniform next season.
 
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Mr. Magoo1

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JY was arguably the second most valuable player on the team, behind Johnson, , and he was one of the very few that could break down a defense.. but this team had a lot of contributors. Also, without that steal at Minnesota, who knows If they get to the tournament.
What people forget is that he also battled Mathis for the lowest basketball IQ on the team....and these two were far ahead (or behind) the rest.
 
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mikeyoc

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Eugene had his best offensive season in Oregon and gave credit to Altman for that. Chill out guys.
He was a turnover waiting to happen during his 1st couple of years
here. Raw as the day is long. Pike and his staff smoothed out the rough edges and handed Oregon a much more refined player. Let's not
have too much selective amnesia
 
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JY was arguably the second most valuable player on the team, behind Johnson, , and he was one of the very few that could break down a defense.. but this team had a lot of contributors. Also, without that steal at Minnesota, who knows If they get to the tournament.
What people forget is that he also battled Mathis for the lowest basketball IQ on the team....and these two were far ahead (or behind) the rest.
That’s an unfair cheap-shot on Mathis and Young. There are appropriate ways to express criticism, but this was below the belt. Come on...
 

JMORC2003

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Great pic. Unless we know for a fact that there were personal issues on the team, let’s stop speculating that that is the reason kids are leaving. I’m not going to fault a guy for wanting to use his last opportunity ever as a college b-ball player to try out another school/program. For all we know, maybe JY always had liked Oregon the same way any of us develop a fondness for a team, and is using the last chance of his lifetime to scratch an itch. If he goes, good for him. I’ll be rooting for him.
 

miketd1

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No inside info, but if I’m JY, I’d be looking to transfer to a team that will let me showcase for the next level.

Quite frankly, our offense is hard to watch half the time.

Good luck to the young man. He leaves the program in better shape than he came in. No sour grapes here.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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Let’s be real honest here. It is obvious. Jacob and Eugene did not get along with the core of the team.
Not saying I disagree here but it’s all
speculation. Wondering if the same could be applied to Johnson and Mathis. If Johnson was very happy here, I think he stays. As we’ve learned, it wasn’t about Stanford at all. Then the question becomes, is the problem with all of these players, or is it with the “core” of the team.?
 
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dpwhite

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Not saying I disagree hear but it’s all
Speculation. Wondering if the same could be applied to Johnson and Mathis. If Johnson was very happy here, I think he stays. As we’ve learned, it wasn’t about Stanford at all. Then the question becomes, is the problem with all of these players, or is it with the “core” of the team.?

It was never just about Stanford. That was speculation. It was about getting to a good grad school on the west coast.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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I don't believe Myles didn't like being at RU, he just wanted to go back home for grad school and start setting himself up for a career in Silicon Valley.
I didn’t say he didn’t like being here. However, he helped lead a team to the the tournament for the first time in 30+ years, he developed big time with a coach who believed he could succeed in one the best conferences in the country when others did not., he could be returning with most of his teammates, whom he’s known for more than 4 years now, on potentially a top 15 team. He’s proven he’s a stand-up guy and I would think he’d be extremely loyal. He’s going to succeed tremendously whether his degree is from, Rutgers, UCLA, Stanford, or if he plays in the NBA. If he was truly happy here, I think he would have stayed.
 
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I didn’t say he didn’t like being here. However, he helped lead a team to the the tournament for the first time in 30+ years, he developed big time with a coach who believed he could succeed in one the best conferences in the country, he could be returning with most of his teammates, whom he’s known for more than 4 years now, on potentially a top 15 team. He’s proven he’s a stand-up guy and I would think he’d be extremely loyal. If he was truly happy here, I think he would have stayed.
Home/family + Future Career + Final4 caliber team made him "happier"😐
 
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I didn’t say he didn’t like being here. However, he helped lead a team to the the tournament for the first time in 30+ years, he developed big time with a coach who believed he could succeed in one the best conferences in the country when others did not., he could be returning with most of his teammates, whom he’s known for more than 4 years now, on potentially a top 15 team. He’s proven he’s a stand-up guy and I would think he’d be extremely loyal. He’s going to succeed tremendously whether his degree is from, Rutgers, UCLA, Stanford, or if he plays in the NBA. If he was truly happy here, I think he would have stayed.

Is it really, really that hard to believe that he wanted to be close to home? And that you’re just a little annoyed that he left the team?
 

PSAL_Hoops

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It was never just about Stanford. That was speculation. It was about getting to a good grad school on the west coast.

Yes 100%. Myles is a kid that loves RU and left because networking back home where he plans to live post college is the right decision for his future. Tez left for more playing time and shorter leash. No hard feelings for either of these decisions. JY considering Oregon isn’t like these decisions though. For whatever reason - in his case, the message is basically coming across that if he chooses to continue playing college level hoop - “anything but Rutgers” with Oregon and a bunch of other scattered schools in the mix.
 

RUInsanityToo

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I didn’t say he didn’t like being here. However, he helped lead a team to the the tournament for the first time in 30+ years, he developed big time with a coach who believed he could succeed in one the best conferences in the country when others did not., he could be returning with most of his teammates, whom he’s known for more than 4 years now, on potentially a top 15 team. He’s proven he’s a stand-up guy and I would think he’d be extremely loyal. He’s going to succeed tremendously whether his degree is from, Rutgers, UCLA, Stanford, or if he plays in the NBA. If he was truly happy here, I think he would have stayed.
Not every human is built the same way. Perhaps stop projecting what a middle aged man might do. You can be happy and seek variety in life, especially at 22 in a post grad situation.
 
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Yes 100%. Myles is a kid that loves RU and left because networking back home where he plans to live post college is the right decision for his future. Tez left for more playing time and shorter leash. No hard feelings for either of these decisions. JY considering Oregon isn’t like these decisions though. For whatever reason - in his case, the message is basically coming across that if he chooses to continue playing college level hoop - “anything but Rutgers” with Oregon and a bunch of other scattered schools in the mix.

JY strikes me as the hired gun type. No surprise he is looking for his next gig, nor does it reflect poorly on RU - especially given the current state of flux with the sheer number in the portal.
 

Mr. Magoo1

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Is it really, really that hard to believe that he wanted to be close to home? And that you’re just a little annoyed that he left the team?
Not going to lie. I am a little annoyed when a player that could have stayed, (and was shown a lot of love here) and lead us to the tournament again, chooses to leave. Still wish him the best. He’s a class act. I can be annoyed at the same time, however.
 
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HeavenUniv.

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Huuuge drop in academics from Rutgers to Oregon. Rutgers is the number 50 university in the world. Oregon is Number 378. Oregon State is way above at 270.
 
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