Mike Rice on Twitter

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hey coaches get your head out of the tranfer portal’s ***...great start to his tweet lol

Entertaining, but one has to wonder if coaches will continue to spend as much time focussing on HS recruits if they know they may leave after one year, or that they can build through the portal. I am by no means the grammar, but he is bad



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RU82

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It’s not going to change ever, so long as this free agency transfer system exists.

Why bring in a player who needs both skill and physical development when you can get a proven D1 commodity. Maybe the top-150 or so HS kids will get a P5 offer out of HS now. But most HS kids will need to work their way up from low and mid majors to get there.
 
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RU-Choppin-Ohio

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With so many programs focusing on portal transfers, it may just be a good opportunity to grab a really good 2021 Big guy. Obviously, you take the best fit that can help the team. Maybe a 2022 Big reclasses late to 2021 and you grab him. It did not work out, but that's how Pikiell got Duke a few years ago.
 
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rucoe89

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College basketball and NBA/G League should make a deal that a kid has to declare NBA/G league or stay in college for 3 Years before NBA or G league. College portal should allow one transfer and only between FR and SO year or after a coaching change. No other time. Kids can earn money doing nonsport activities (tutor, be influencer ( but cannot use school connection) In sport they play in)).
 

Scarlet Shack

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Another reason why I’m glad this guy isn’t our coach. Guy can just make a strong point without insulting other or coming off like a mess.

Grateful we have a class act running our program
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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......and maybe Mike Rice is wrong here.

Maybe a team chemistry is better with an older roster. Maybe it is easier for a coach to run a team not worrying every second about disappointing a freshman and giving someone not deserving of minutes minutes so they don’t leave.

To me over the past 4 years the most impactful players to Rutgers basketball are (in order)

1. Eugene - transfers out
2. Myles Johnson - transfers out
3. Jacob Young - transfers in
4. Yeboah (debateable, but was glue) - transfers in
 

MADHAT1

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What Rice did was just strongly suggest building a program with HS talent and not from disgruntled players from other college teams.
It used to be most copllege programs went to HS for their players and used an occasional transfer or JUCO to strengthen a position when needed

Now it looks like transfers are being used to build programs and as a HS coach ,MR is speaking out against that practice


For those bashing MR
What's keeping Mike Rice from getting another shat at being a College HC is not what caused him to lose his RU position, but the fact he didn't win enough as the RU HC to be considered a candidate for admittance to the rehabilitated club like a Kevin Sampson Houston's HC was eligible to join.
Add Rick Pitino to that membership role
Bobby Knight was a genius when it came to coaching basketball, but might have made Mike look tamer with the stuff Bobby did .
Knight left Indiana in disgrace, but that didn't stop Texas Tech from hiring him
Bruce Pearl is another member of the he's Rehabilitated Club, because he was a winner before being caught and punished
 

satnom

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Guess he’s not planning on interviewing for a college job anytime soon.

GO RU
 

Russ Wood

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hey coaches get your head out of the tranfer portal’s ***...great start to his tweet lol

Entertaining, but one has to wonder if coaches will continue to spend as much time focussing on HS recruits if they know they may leave after one year, or that they can build through the portal. I am by no means the grammar, but he is bad



:YesNo


Coach Rice is just publicly Tweeting what every Grassroots/AAU/Travel Team and many HS Coach is saying privately.
 

RUtix4me

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Coach Rice is just publicly Tweeting what every Grassroots/AAU/Travel Team and many HS Coach is saying privately.
Do you think this is a one time feeding frenzy, or will the TP shuffle become a permanent fixture and change recruiting given kids will trade up first chance they get?
 
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hey coaches get your head out of the tranfer portal’s ***...great start to his tweet lol

Entertaining, but one has to wonder if coaches will continue to spend as much time focussing on HS recruits if they know they may leave after one year, or that they can build through the portal. I am by no means the grammar, but he is bad



:YesNo



He is not eloquent, but he's not incorrect. Unfortunately, due to the extra year of eligibility, the portal is quite full this year and it's easier to take a player who is developed than one who needs to be developed. He probably knows he'll never be a college coach again & doesn't give a crap about who he pisses off.
But, if you are going to make fun of his grammar, perhaps you should proofread before you post?
" I am by no means the grammar, but he is bad" 🙄
 

RUPsyched

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Another possible effect of the transfer portal is that a lot of very good young talent are going to end up at small majors making the tournament even more interesting. I think we have seen that a little this year.
 

CranfordKnight

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An AAU coach whose livelihood is based on his ability to help HS students find scholarships is mad because the portal and the extra year is effecting his ability to do so. Color me shocked.
 
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greenknight

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An AAU coach whose livelihood is based on his ability to help HS students find scholarships is mad because the portal and the extra year is effecting his ability to do so. Color me shocked.
Or taking other players from other programs that got over recruited and aren't getting the PT they envisioned and just pick up another school to try their luck. I can see a player coming from a mid major to want to make a splash on the big stage but swapping from 1 major does not make a whole lot of sense unless in a MJ situaltiongrad transfer going close to home and for education purposes. He is point blank right on...just alot of people here have burnt asses for him telling it like it is
 

Russ Wood

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Do you think this is a one time feeding frenzy, or will the TP shuffle become a permanent fixture and change recruiting given kids will trade up first chance they get?
Transfer culture really took hold about 4 years ago. Each successive year there were more Division I players transferring.

Once kids started transferring in Dec. I knew that the college basketball that I grew up watching was dead.

The transfer portal is not, I repeat NOT the problem.

The problem is the transfer culture which reaches all the way down to Middle School.

The transfer portal is just a vehicle that adds transparency to the process so that college coaches know that they can contact a kid without breaking any rules.

The one-time transfer with no sit-out read has changed things forever.

The ironic thing, at least for me, is that many of the people who have wanted kids to be able to transfer and play immediately are now upset that half the players from their favorite team have decided to transfer.

That's just funny to me.
 

Greene Rice FIG

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Today if I am a college coach at Rutgers my thought process is to recruit more HS players with a dual goal of getting people to come to RU and build relationships for potential transfers in the future.

Very soon, as in by next year, kids will figure out how to build super teams and together will go. Similar to NBA when Bosh Wade and Lebron went to the Heat (sorry for referencing the NNBA)
 

Russ Wood

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Today if I am a college coach at Rutgers my thought process is to recruit more HS players with a dual goal of getting people to come to RU and build relationships for potential transfers in the future.

Very soon, as in by next year, kids will figure out how to build super teams and together will go. Similar to NBA when Bosh Wade and Lebron went to the Heat (sorry for referencing the NNBA)
It is already happening. Two kids transferred to UAB to reunite with a player already at UAB. I don't expect it to create a super team at UAB the kids are already talking about playing together and transferring to the same school.

If it can happen at UAB in 2021 it's only a matter of time before it starts to happen at schools in high major conferences.
 
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Greene Rice FIG

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They are luck their uniforms just say UAB. Imagine if they stuck that logo showing the dragon on the uniforms.
 

AshCatchEm

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Another reason why I’m glad this guy isn’t our coach. Guy can just make a strong point without insulting other or coming off like a mess.

Grateful we have a class act running our program
What an inept take. "I'm so glad he's not our coach because he's saying what all of us are thinking". Brilliant.

I'll always like rice. And I didn't care one bit about the basketball incident. Coaches do worse. Scorned Assistant coaches just don't go crying about it at every school it happens. He made our program respectable from the basketball side until that incident blew up in the programs face. I had much more fun watching his teams than eddie "how do you teach rebounding" jordan's teams.

I wish pikiell could direct one tenth of rice's intensity at an official once in his life.
 
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Do you think this is a one time feeding frenzy, or will the TP shuffle become a permanent fixture and change recruiting given kids will trade up first chance they get?

Just looking at the kids in the portal, I think this year will be a high water mark and subsequent years will have lower overall volume.

There are 1490 kids in the portal right now.... and 403 (27%) of them would have ordinarily been in their final year of eligibility this year. Without the covid waiver for an extra year of eligibility, those kids wouldn't have had the option of entering the portal at all.

There are also 133 kids who are true juniors this year would have previously just had one more year of eligibility, and now have two... so I'd imagine that number would be a touch lower in future years, too. But the ability to play immediately instead of sitting a year changes the math on this group, too, moving them from a "2 for 1" bucket into something more closely resembling graduate transfers with one immediate year of eligibility.... but the number of "grad transfers" will go down a bit, too, since players won't need to take a RS year anymore when transferring, which means fewer RS Srs overall.

Covid and quarantining itself also likely inflates the numbers a bit - with guys that have been locked down away from family for a year and looking to transfer closer to home.

My guess is that the volume in the portal stays high, but closer to 900-1000 kids a year rather than the 1500 we're seeing in 2021.
 

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Does the portal impact coaches that are program builders vs 1 & dones? Coaches like Pike had 4 years to develop kids into the ideal players and would see the benefits in years 3&4. Now that kids have ability to transfer out (without sitting), does it set the team back OR are the coaches that are program builders are usually in the ones that cultivate longer term relationships and won't be burned as often or pick up other kids from portal.

Is it a wash, benefit or negative?
 
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mikeyoc

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What an inept take. "I'm so glad he's not our coach because he's saying what all of us are thinking". Brilliant.

I'll always like rice. And I didn't care one bit about the basketball incident. Coaches do worse. Scorned Assistant coaches just don't go crying about it at every school it happens. He made our program respectable from the basketball side until that incident blew up in the programs face. I had much more fun watching his teams than eddie "how do you teach rebounding" jordan's teams.

I wish pikiell could direct one tenth of rice's intensity at an official once in his life.
I was an AAU coach for 5 years. Screaming at the officials
(which wasn't what I chose to do) NEVER helped the opposing
coaches who did that. Contrary to popular belief, the officials
are human. They HATE coaches who scream at them
 
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AshCatchEm

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I was an AAU coach for 5 years. Screaming at the officials
(which wasn't what I chose to do) NEVER helped the opposing
coaches who did that. Contrary to popular belief, the officials
are human. They HATE coaches who scream at them
Well when you are as quiet as a church mouse like pikiell is, they are free to continue to dick over our guys.