Rutgers to REQUIRE all in person students to be vaccinated this fall

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Retired711

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But okay with their employees doing it?

AFAIK, Rutgers has no vaccination requirements at all for staff and faculty. Maybe the idea is that they are thought to be old enough and responsible enough to have gotten the proper vaccines? Beside, faculty and staff have much less contact with students than fellow students do -- faculty and staff don't live in student dorms, and even faculty have limited contact with students. I think I would have decided otherwise if I were Holloway, but he may not have wanted to go through the difficulty of getting the faculty/staff unions to go along. At any rate, exempting faculty/staff is not an argument for exempting students.
 
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e5fdny

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I agree on both counts (assuming you are outside when not wearing one presently). A family member of mine had to wear a mask while battling an illness, but I assumed from then on that other mask wearers were also immunocompromised or overly anxious about germs. I think this pandemic resets the whole mindset around masks.
If I’m all alone (or with immediate family) in my section watching the Devils at the Roc, what’s the big deal if I pull it down?
 

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ASAIK, Rutgers has no vaccination requirements at all for staff and faculty. Maybe the idea is that they are thought to be old enough and responsible enough to have gotten the proper vaccines? Beside, faculty and staff have much less contact with students than fellow students do -- faculty and staff don't live in student dorms, and even faculty have limited contact with students. I think I would have decided otherwise if I were Holloway, but he may not have wanted to go through the difficulty of getting the faculty/staff unions to go along. At any rate, exempting faculty/staff is not an argument for exempting students.
I’m not saying exempt them I’m saying include them with everyone else.
 

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According to Newsweek,84 per cent of those housed near the border have tested positive.When they're set free to do a Roger Miller act,we may be back to March 2020.
 

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I’m not saying exempt them I’m saying include them with everyone else.

I understood that. I agree that faculty/staff should be covered, although there are some practical problems as I mentioned. But the exemption for faculty/staff is not an argument for letting unvaccinated students enroll; some posters seem to think that it has to be all or nothing.
 

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And for the poster bringing up Asia..move there
WTF, that comment makes no sense...why would the poster move there? The poster never insisted anyone else should mask but rather simply provided an example of the rationale behind individual people's decision to mask in crowded, enclosed public areas (such as mass transit), in a region of the world where a larger segment of population has historically done so, even pre-COVID, since it's not necessarily a social stigma. In some cases it's also to mitigate the air pollution which is much worse in some parts of Asia and thus can affect people's breathing.

Maybe you should consider moving if your perceived freedoms are being so heavily infringed upon. Or you can continue complaining on a message board.
 

e5fdny

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I understood that. I agree that faculty/staff should be covered, although there are some practical problems as I mentioned. But the exemption for faculty/staff is not an argument for letting unvaccinated students enroll; some posters seem to think that it has to be all or nothing.
Well when you say something like this...

“Maybe the idea is that they are thought to be old enough and responsible enough to have gotten the proper vaccines?”


...from a student’s perspective it does sounds a little condescending. I mean you can’t get in unless you produce your vaccination records. So if they want to be here they are responsible enough to have that taken care of beforehand.

My point is if you want to lead or been seen as a leader, lead. And having every member of the Rutgers family included on this would have shown that.
 
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because there will be others pushing it...have you paid attention to the past year

It's going to be hilarious watching you guys continue to complain and complain after everyone else is vaccinated and getting back to normal, somehow trying to distort reality enough to convince yourselves you're the brave ones and victims.

They don't make enough popcorn for that 😂😂
 

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Well when you say something like this...

“Maybe the idea is that they are thought to be old enough and responsible enough to have gotten the proper vaccines?”

...from a student’s perspective it does sounds a little condescending. I mean you can’t get in unless you produce your vaccination records. So if they want to be here they are responsible enough to have that taken care of beforehand.

My point is if you want to lead or been seen as a leader, lead. And having every member of the Rutgers family included on this would have shown that.

I agree that it would have be better for the requirement to apply to all. But maybe Holloway thinks that the faculty/staff unions would force negotiation over a requirement, and insisted that the University give something to the unions in exchange for consenting. I think that's unlikely, but the AAUP leadership is so irresponsible that it could do anything.
 

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I agree that it would have be better for the requirement to apply to all. But maybe Holloway thinks that the faculty/staff unions would force negotiation over a requirement, and insisted that the University give something to the unions in exchange for consenting. I think that's unlikely, but the AAUP leadership is so irresponsible that it could do anything.
I’m just glad you got yours and are safe.👍
 

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Nobody, I repeat nobody, including your family, wants to see your junk, don't pull your pants down you perv.
First,I thought of this one...



But then saw this one...



And had to post it too. LOL
 
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And so is everyone’s health and safety.

I’m saying if this is so important from a University-wide level why isn’t everyone being told to get a vaccination?
its a valid question. But did they specifically say they didnt want everyone else to have it. My guess is that its more likely a reason around contracts of some sort (are there teacher unions for universities?). So for all we know, they have been actively trying to get that worked out too and maybe would announce once it comes through?
Either way, would be better to enforce it fully vs not enforce for anyone.
 
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e5fdny

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its a valid question. But did they specifically say they didnt want everyone else to have it. My guess is that its more likely a reason around contracts of some sort (are there teacher unions for universities?). So for all we know, they have been actively trying to get that worked out too and maybe would announce once it comes through?
Either way, would be better to enforce it fully vs not enforce for anyone.
That’s all I’m saying.
 

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You covid warriors would drink paint thinner if Fauci or Gates told you too.

The majority of Americans respect both because both Fauci and Gates rely on science to guide their statements. Thus, they have credibility. If they offered ludicrous recommendations, like injecting bleach or, in your example, drinking paint thinner, they would be treated exactly as those advocating such ridiculous actions are treated.
 

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I see the vaccine hasn't protected anyone from TDS.
You're the dope who brought up a hypothetical about drinking toxic substances when you could have used a real life example of idiots following the suggestions of someone who is seen as a major influencer.
 
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Are flu shots a mandatory requirement as well? Because COVID is less deadly to these kids than flu and asymptotic spread isn't a real thing.

What happened to my body my choice? I guess killing the unborn is ok, but avoiding a harmless flu is not?
Wrong for college aged people covid is 4X deadlier. But keep being an idiot like you have been throughout the whole pandemic.
 

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I'm not anti vax. Old and fat people should get it. Young and healthy people have no reason to get it. Go look at the numbers. Flu is more deadly than COVID for college students.
Fake news. Covid becomes more deadly around 16. Bloomberg did a piece on this.
 

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You're the dope who brought up a hypothetical about drinking toxic substances when you could have used a real life example of idiots following the suggestions of someone who is seen as a major influencer.

Ha. Another one triggered. Why are you guys so defensive and unsure of yourself if you think you are right?
 

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I see roughly 4,800 deaths from COVID / pneumonia in 2020-2021. Split 2,100 covid; 2,700 pneumonia. This is US, ages 0-29 per the cdc website.

CDC’s Jan 2020 report on 2018-2019 flu deaths shows 2,927 for ages 0-49 (it doesn’t get as specific into age groups).
Bloomberg did a piece on this, it is 4 times more deadly than the flu for college aged people. Spanky and skoolie listen to alex berenson and gummybear instead of science.
 
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I got so many emails and calls yesterday

I said I'll wait to see how they handle fan attendance before I give anything again.

You can't even go see a baseball game outdoors today.

If they require bogus vaccine proof it will severely hurt donations and fan interest going forward
you donate your welfare money?
 

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A bit of segregation don't you think. That's like saying you can't go in my store because you smell, I don't like your skin color, how tall you are etc. Lets make the peeps that are vaccinated have a v tattoo on their forehead,
next some places will demand you wear shoes and a shirt!!
 
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Stay locked inside and you'll be safe and sound.

Real men don't live scared of 99% and care about what is injected in themselves.

Notice how you always make things personal cuz you have no substance in your points.

18-22 year olds, stay on point , they shouldn't be penalized cuz their choice is no needle.
Real men work instead of posting on message boards.
 
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