We didn't get jobbed...
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Exciting close game
Lots of good efforts
But we are NOT going to win many games when Geo & Young both go 1-6(2-12 combined) & zero REBs
Lots of good efforts
But we are NOT going to win many games when Geo & Young both go 1-6(2-12 combined) & zero REBs
Watching with my eyeballs, I didn't see it being egregious one way or the other.
Would I have liked a few more calls go our way? Sure. Is this something new in the world of basketball? Not in the least.
I think message boards like this though help feed the "f'n refs" frenzy. So a standard game where the home team gets a few calls turns into one of the worst officiated games ever!!!!!
Got got some gifts as well. The foul on Harper that allowed us to cut the lead to 2 with less than a minute left was questionable at best. Slight hip bump. And we fouled them and didn't get called on some as well.
Whining about refs is such a lazy way to view a loss. We gave up over 50% shooting from the floor. In both halves. We got out rebounded too. Sometimes our guys were just kinda standing around when shots went up.
That's not going to win many games.
We lost by 5 pts. One can easily make the case that the officiating cost us the 5 pts. that we lost by. Is that getting jobbed? I don’t know. Did the officiating matter? Absolutely.
Yeah because God forbid we chew gum and walk at the same time here.
This debate is getting sooooooooo complicated I can't take it.
Here's a hot take. How about we talk about how well we played on the road and pushing through adversity AND the officiating. Can you handle that or do we need to bust out the crayons??
The disparity between the way the game was called in the first half versus the second half was too extreme. McCaffrey was arguing one specific play at the end of the half and I am not sure why that would have cause the refs to over correct. Iowa being in the bonus so early in the second half was clearly an advantage particularly because they make a high % of their FTs. It seemed to me that even in the first half we were playing their game from a pace perspective and needed to either clamp down or score an inordinately high number of points to win. To me there were enough other factors why we lost to preclude me from getting too worked up about the refs. I thought we got some favorable calls as well and we certainly had a shot down the stretch.
Your right oh yeah how about the missed calls and **** calls on us could have been 6 to 8 points more. Ooopps this is even easier. Refs missed fouls both ways but if you couldn’t see we got the short end of the stick on this situation not much anyone can say to you
How about if game in second half was called same as first half where we were up by 5. If they let them play rhythm of game in 2nd half is completely different and I think we could have won
He ran the ball down had it with a few feet to spare and was hip checked out of bounds. Announcer even said no way he goes out of bounds unless pushed out. Said definite foul. Ergo no flop
I don't disagree but you have to adjust to how its getting called. We got flustered
How about the 2 fouls they called on Iowa on Harper...breathing foul on layup and odd hipcheck. I believe a stretch where 5 of 6 fouls called were on Iowa
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Funny how there were no ref threads when we beat Indiana and Minnesota and attempted more FTs each game.
We weren't outplayed; game was evenly played. Killer plays were lack of block out on the free throw up 1 and Young's layup that didn't go down. Lack of block out allowing Iowa to retain possession and take lead is on RU.
Todd, he said that before the replay and I agreed. When they showed the replay Bardo specifically says, "oh, wait a minute, maybe not" That call benefited RU. As soon as the replay ended I texted my brother, "we got one there"
A critical part of the game was the first 3 minutes of the second half where Rutgers committed 5 fouls.After that the Iowa offense was primarily based on passing the ball to Garza inside or having other players dribble drive to the basket to make the shot or get fouled.Although Iowa went 7 minutes without a basket,Rutgers never took advantage by going on a scoring spurt to take a sizable lead.
Can’t box out because a normal box out is whistled a foul. Can’t make a layup because you get thrown to the ground without a foul.
But you do need to make your FTs.
I just checked. Turns out that when two good teams both play well, there's still a 100% chance that someone leaves the arena with a loss.
It doesn't always mean it was anyone's fault (to the extent that anyone who missed even a single shot or turned it over even once theoretically could have played better), especially not a neutral third party's.
It doesn't always mean it was anyone's fault (to the extent that anyone who missed even a single shot or turned it over even once theoretically could have played better), especially not a neutral third party's.
Honest question, did you even watch the replay? Fouls were 3-3 within the first 3 minutes of the half and only a 2 point game. With about 3 minutes to go it was a 6 point game. 3 fouls called on Iowa and now it is a 1 point lead for Rutgers. Rutgers benefited from foul calls also.
is it true Higgens actually has the words "Rutgers Foul" secretly formed in his hair?
As another poster said - how do you adjust your play when said play shouldn’t be called a foul. Also on other thread you brought up what you apparently see as a phantom call on the hip check. THAT was a foul
https://www.btnplus.com/game/rutgers-at-iowa-on-01222020?tid=20
Not sure if you will be able to see this because you have to be signed in, but it would be at the 1 hr 15 min mark. Take the Rutgers glasses off and honestly tell me if you think that is a foul.
Iowa had a higher field goal % (52.7 - 46.0), a higher 3 point % (36.0 - 33.3), a higher free throw % (72.0 - 71.4), more offensive rebounds (11 - 10), more defensive rebounds (27 - 20), more total rebounds (38 - 30), more assists (19 - 17), more blocks (5 - 0), and most importantly, more points (85 - 80). But yeah, other than that, Rutgers totally outplayed Iowa by a ton.
Plus not even close to 10 fouls in 3 minutes...it was 3-3 in fouls in the first 3 minutes so he was close on that also
true, when the half started, both Iowa and RU were being called for fouls, everyone knew things had changed. RU was too slow to adapt
RU was called for 9 fouls compared to Iowa's 3 fouls in the first seven minutes of the second half (excluding Fran's technical). But more than that, it was the lack of respect that Rutgers got in their paint during that same time period. Just ask Stephen Bardo or rewatch his broadcast.
I have rewatched the broadcast...fouls were 3-3 within the first 3 minutes. 6-4 in the first 6 minutes. It was 9-4 with 13 minutes left in the game. But got to 9-7 with 7 minutes left. Both teams were in the double bonus with 4 minutes left.
I can’t believe that any Rutgers basketball fan would have the audacity to complain about the refs. Your team’s entire identity is built around fouling multiple times on every single defensive possession, knowing full well the refs can’t possibly call every foul.
More than just the final numbers, the refs single handedly reversed all momentum up to that point. Those calls and lack of calls at the other end more than just helped the home team and crowd get back into it. It's that simple.
It was a 2 point game when the fouls were 3-3. Fouls did not let Iowa get back into the game. Refs did not give the momentum to Iowa at that point. Take off the Rutgers glasses and realize it wasn't what you think
My glasses are fine here, as the play by play says otherwise.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/playbyplay?gameId=401166183
I thought the three biggest swings of the game that impacted the outcome of the game the most were.
1. The middle of the 1st half to almost the end where Luka Garza just wasn't human. He was hitting everything and Rutgers was throwing the kitchen sink at him.
2. Towards the end of the first half when Shaq was called for traveling twice on made buckets. If he cleans up his footwork a bit those points are a huge swing for the Knights. Admittedly I did not have the sound on while watching, so not sure both were traveling calls. All I know is I saw the ball go in and I did not see us get either bucket scored.
3. If McConnell converts both his tech free throws and Mathis can even convert 1/2 on his empty trip right after the half it's a different game.
Honorable mention. Mid 2nd half Harpers toed three.
Clean up any of the above and I think the Knights come out on top. Clean up two or more of those and you are looking at a very comfortable victory on the road.
1. The middle of the 1st half to almost the end where Luka Garza just wasn't human. He was hitting everything and Rutgers was throwing the kitchen sink at him.
2. Towards the end of the first half when Shaq was called for traveling twice on made buckets. If he cleans up his footwork a bit those points are a huge swing for the Knights. Admittedly I did not have the sound on while watching, so not sure both were traveling calls. All I know is I saw the ball go in and I did not see us get either bucket scored.
3. If McConnell converts both his tech free throws and Mathis can even convert 1/2 on his empty trip right after the half it's a different game.
Honorable mention. Mid 2nd half Harpers toed three.
Clean up any of the above and I think the Knights come out on top. Clean up two or more of those and you are looking at a very comfortable victory on the road.
What are disagreeing with what I said about the fouls? Why do I need the play by play when I went back and watched? With mu quote, what are you arguing?
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