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IDK lol...I am just mindful to drink a glass of water several times throughout the fast. I have a 32oz bottle I drink maybe it and refill it once during work (and drinking water helps you feel full, so if I feel hungry I drink water...instead of a snack which is what gets people into trouble with weight gain imo)...also, the flavored water can't have artificial sweetener as that ruins the fast, fyi....I'm no expert just did a lot of research before starting.

What is a "lot" of water. Usually drink 2 liters of lightly flavored seltzer, and at least 32 ounces of regular water per day.
 
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I have sort of been doing this for 6 months now. Went from 180 down to 153 just yesterday.

I dont starve myself completely though. I eat a light salad for lunch thats about 300 Calories. Have 2 eggs in 1 slice of bread for breakfast. Eat a normal dinner. Also do intense aerobic exercise atleast 5 times a week.

Its working really well.


What is a normal dinner

Can you estimate the calories

The first 2 meals total about 540 calories
 

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What is a normal dinner

Can you estimate the calories

The first 2 meals total about 540 calories
To lose weight, my Jenny Craig info says you have to keep your calories intake around 1,200-1,500 day. Do this for 6 day and eat like you normally eat on the 7th day so you don’t starve your body.
 
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Anyone ever try this NJ Diet deal? I hear it advertised on WFAN a lot. I'm just assuming it's an equivalent of one of these fad diets?

I concluded awhile ago that NJ Diet = Keto diet.

I've heard a lot of the NJ Diet radio shows, and I've done keto. The principles seem exactly the same but with the hair analysis type thing slathered on top (the analysis isn't needed but it looks scientific and they get to charge for it).

NJ and Keto both move away from calorie counting and glucose burning. When body shifts to burning fats (by avoiding carbs) you can lose a pound a day while eating 3000 calories. I lost 10 pounds in 10 days and was eating steak, bacon. burgers, chicken etc and not remotely starving. NJ show talks about that all the time.

This MD is good for Keto diet stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/user/KenDBerry/videos
 

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I concluded awhile ago that NJ Diet = Keto diet.

I've heard a lot of the NJ Diet radio shows, and I've done keto. The principles seem exactly the same but with the hair analysis type thing slathered on top (the analysis isn't needed but it looks scientific and they get to charge for it).

NJ and Keto both move away from calorie counting and glucose burning. When body shifts to burning fats (by avoiding carbs) you can lose a pound a day while eating 3000 calories. I lost 10 pounds in 10 days and was eating steak, bacon. burgers, chicken etc and not remotely starving. NJ show talks about that all the time.

This MD is good for Keto diet stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/user/KenDBerry/videos
Is the Keto a new trend? I've been hearing about it lately. Is it safe though? I read some get what they call Keto flu?
 

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Is the Keto a new trend? I've been hearing about it lately. Is it safe though? I read some get what they call Keto flu?

Is not "new new" but its been getting bigger and bigger despite the orchestrated pushback. There have been articles about "keto breath" and "keto crotch" and scare articles about "cholesterol" etc. But people are learning from friends and family that diet works, and that other medical issues clear-up as well.

Another well known doctor/author who did PBS shows (David Perlmutter) has long been writing about the benefits of keto and neurological regeneration :

https://www.drperlmutter.com/keep-ketosis/

Animals are fattened with oats, corn rice and skim milk

How to fatten pigs and people
Feed them Skim Milk
https://www.wellfedhome.com/how-to-fatten-pigs-and-people
 

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Is not "new new" but its been getting bigger and bigger despite the orchestrated pushback. There have been articles about "keto breath" and "keto crotch" and scare articles about "cholesterol" etc. But people are learning from friends and family that diet works, and that other medical issues clear-up as well.

Another well known doctor/author who did PBS shows (David Perlmutter) has long been writing about the benefits of keto and neurological regeneration :

https://www.drperlmutter.com/keep-ketosis/

Animals are fattened with oats, corn rice and skim milk

How to fatten pigs and people
Feed them Skim Milk
https://www.wellfedhome.com/how-to-fatten-pigs-and-people
I read "models" use cream in their coffee..
 
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what happens when you eat that
It's against everything I believe in. I'm vegetarian and the gelatin "is made by prolonged boiling of skin, cartilage, and bones from animals":flush:
 
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I lost 32 pounds about 10 years ago going from 222 to 190 on Jenny Craig for about 1 year at 53 years old. Kept the weight off for 5 years but stop weighting myself and gained to 207 at 59 years old. Lost 30 pounds in 6 months to 177 and now at 182 at 63years old. Going to the doctor in July, expect to be at 175 pounds. I pretty much follow the intermittent fasting, cut carbs and sugar and watch calories.

Coffee for breakfast. For lunch, I’m eating a hamburger (180 cal)with no bread with a small salad. For dinner, some type of protein with vegetables but small portion. My snack is now 6 chicken nuggets (280 cal) or a slice of pizza (250 calories). Other snacks, ice pop sugar free 5 cal, chocolate pudding 8 cal or jello. I occasionally will eat a bag of potatoes chip every couple of days.

I jog and work out almost every day but the exercise doesn’t really make a difference in weight loss unless you run 2-3 miles a day.

Portion control is by far the biggest factor.

Can't work out every day. Have to give the body rest especially when pumping out 25-35 sets a workout. I use golf analogies when grading my week. If I work out four times, I birded the week. 3 is par; 5 is eagle; 2 is bogie.
 

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How much water a day?
Good rule is half your weight in ounces.
Example: 200lbs = 100oz of water
 

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How much water a day?
Good rule is half your weight in ounces.
Example: 200lbs = 100oz of water

so you pee a lot...

That is a lot of water. Water doesn't have to come from just plain water, tea and coffee counts towards that goal.
But not alcohol and sugar based drinks (soda and juice).
 
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Any diet can “work” and any diet can “fail”.
It’s about what are your individual goals and lifestyle are.

High level athlete who works out multiples times a day?
Load up on all the carbs. Your body needs them.

Endurance workouts with long slow runs?
Keto seems to make sense and focus on burning fat instead of carbs.

It’s about adapting your diet to you.
Not adapting you to your diet.

Also, eating isn’t a punishment.
1 “bad” day doesn’t ruin a month or even a week.
Just let it go, acknowledge it, and move on.
 

NickRU714

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so you pee a lot...

That is a lot of water. Water doesn't have to come from just plain water, tea and coffee counts towards that goal.
But not alcohol and sugar based drinks (soda and juice).

Haha. Yes I do.
The week before a race is the worst when increasing water intake.
My diet is still a work in progress but I have hydration set.

Really not that much water if you think about it - 100oz over 24 hours is 4oz an hour.

I’m not sure if the ratio (1/2 BW in Oz) holds for higher weights honestly.

Drink most of it at work but not so much when at home - not great.
Keep a 40oz Hydroflask on my desk so I only have to refill one or two times a day.

Smaller containers I would finish and then forget to refill.
Made it easier on myself and just got a bigger container.

Honestly, I would wear a CamelBak/hydration pack around the office if I could - just put the water on me at all times so I can’t forget.

Keep it simple and easy.
 

NickRU714

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Coffe and Tea counting towards hydration: careful what you are putting in it.

4 cups of coffee counts towards water I guess, but the milk and sugar are also counting.
 

DJ Spanky

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There is a lot that is not understood about weight loss. If it was understood and universally applicable, we would all be the ideal weight and in the proper BMI on the poster on our doctors' walls.
No, actually we wouldn't. Maintaining weight or muscle mass is a discipline. I'm a gym rat, I've been active in a gym since I got out of college. There are specific health reasons why I need to. That aside, those of us who are long time members see a rhythm or pattern in the gym population. Jan. and Feb. we see the resolutioners, but we know by the 3rd week of Feb. their presence starts to wane, and by March most of them are gone. We see it year after year after year. Same thing with late April/early May, we see an influx of those who want to get fit for the summer. They're gone by June. We also see an influx of college students in mid-late May, they last a month or two. By July they're gone.

It's discipline. It's going when you don't feel like going. It's pushing yourself. It's not getting comfortable. It's realizing that this is not a quick fix, that it's a lifestyle change. The same thing holds true with dieting. Over the years I've seen so many friends jump on this diet or that diet. Jenny Craig, Nutrisystem, Atkins, Weight-Watchers, etc. And they don't stick. They don't change their eating habits, their workout regimen, their lifestyle.
 

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The no exercise does seem odd.

I work out at the Max and they have a diet plan. I'm down 25 lbs without really following the diet plan, just cutting down. More importantly I've lost 4 inches on my waist, the last 2 without losing any weight.
You probably haven't lost weight because you've added muscle while burning off fat, hence the reduction in your waist size while maintaining weight.
 

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All these fad diets do are fatten the wallets of the person who made them up. It is all very simple. Eat less, eat better and work out. Duh...
Anyway- I started using a personal trainer in Oct, twice a week. At that point I was 187 lbs and 24% BF. Funny thing is that I thought I wasn't fat.
I used to go to the gym on my own at least 2-3 times a week and thought I worked myself hard. But shortly after starting with the PT, I realized she had me sweating more in 10 minutes then I would in my own entire workout sessions. Weight dropped fast and muscle added. I am going on 57 this year.
I am now down to 152 lbs and 10% BF. Arms and shoulders ripped and waist down from 36 to between 30 and 31.
 
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that's been my diet for 25 years, except almost all my carbs are beer lol....no sugar, no bread. and exercise, do something you enjoy! I hate running so I never did it. if you don't enjoy you won't do it.

Cut sugar out and stop drinking alcohol

Excercise...cardio and hit the weights

Its pretty simple...you either want to or you don't
 
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that's been my diet for 25 years, except almost all my carbs are beer lol....no sugar, no bread. and exercise, do something you enjoy! I hate running so I never did it. if you don't enjoy you won't do it.

This is the whole key...My wife likes to try to control my diet and doesn't understand that when she goes nuts like she does- she will just stop eating everything and expect me to do the same...I will always cheat. Right now, I have just cut back on portions and what time of day/night I eat. I have also cut down a lot of drinking.
This way, I still get to eat and drink what I like and almost feel like I am cheating but in reality, it is all figured in. I have never been one to eat a lot of fat, sweets or salt anyway.
 
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Lifestyle changes are key, it has to be something that you can do for the rest of your life.

In fact yo-yo dieting is very dangerous.
 

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Life is difficult and stressful, and we're not setup to have to watch what we eat and how much we move on top of all of the other things we need to keep track of on a daily basis. Your diet and exercise need to become somewhat automatic or it won't work. What that means, and what comfortably becomes automatic differs by person.
 

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All these fad diets do are fatten the wallets of the person who made them up. It is all very simple. Eat less, eat better and work out. Duh...
Anyway- I started using a personal trainer in Oct, twice a week. At that point I was 187 lbs and 24% BF. Funny thing is that I thought I wasn't fat.
I used to go to the gym on my own at least 2-3 times a week and thought I worked myself hard. But shortly after starting with the PT, I realized she had me sweating more in 10 minutes then I would in my own entire workout sessions. Weight dropped fast and muscle added. I am going on 57 this year.
I am now down to 152 lbs and 10% BF. Arms and shoulders ripped and waist down from 36 to between 30 and 31.

What exactly does your trainer have you doing 2 days per week--specifics--exercises and duration?
And your personal trainer--she had you sweating?

Finally, did you work out more than the 2 days a week she gave you good workout?
 

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The word "diet" means lifestyle, not a radical shift to temporarily lose weight.

Make a rational plan and stick to it. Consult with your doctor. Realize what your body and frame can handle.

Cut out crap. Fast food, soda, sugar. All gone.

Workout and lift weights. You need to lift.

It all comes down to will power.
 
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It is better to slowly lose weight and lose say 20 lbs in one year and keep it off forever than to lose 20lbs in a month and gain it back the same year and then some. That really messes up your body and it can cause all kinds of health issues.

This is why these gimmick diets suck, there is no way in hell you can keep it up.

Eat healthier and less and excise more.. that's it, no gimmicks. You don't have to join a gym if you hate gyms, just do something, anything that gets you to burn energy. Take up a sport, walk the dog for 1 hour, or whatever. Just do something.
 

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What exactly does your trainer have you doing 2 days per week--specifics--exercises and duration?
And your personal trainer--she had you sweating?

Finally, did you work out more than the 2 days a week she gave you good workout?

Figured you would pick up on the "she" hahaha little Turkish Girl about 5ft2.
I train with her 2x per week but also work out on my own an additional 3x per week and during commercials when watching tv.
What she does- I guess t is the use of always mixing cardio throughout the workout. During a 1 hour session, the ONLY break is when you walk from one part of the gym to another. The first couple of months was all about getting my body ready for what was to come. After that- hardcore and never with heavy weights but lots of supersets and reps. Between every set were some sort of pushups, wall climbers or something else. After an hour with her, I would be dead tired and soaked with sweat. After abs, she then has you do an additional 30 minutes to an hour cardio.
 

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Figured you would pick up on the "she" hahaha little Turkish Girl about 5ft2.
I train with her 2x per week but also work out on my own an additional 3x per week and during commercials when watching tv.
What she does- I guess t is the use of always mixing cardio throughout the workout. During a 1 hour session, the ONLY break is when you walk from one part of the gym to another. The first couple of months was all about getting my body ready for what was to come. After that- hardcore and never with heavy weights but lots of supersets and reps. Between every set were some sort of pushups, wall climbers or something else. After an hour with her, I would be dead tired and soaked with sweat. After abs, she then has you do an additional 30 minutes to an hour cardio.
Her workouts sound similar to the Beach Body LIIFT 4 workouts-- a mix of supersets, body weight exercises, cardio, abs and stretching at end. All workouts are with dumbells
Day 1 Chest/Triceps
Day 2 Back and Biceps
Day 3 Stretch
Day 4 Shoulders
Day 5 Legs
3 sets of 10 Reps of 9 different exercises or 4 sets of 10 Reps of 6 different excercises;
HIIT of body weight exercises such as squat jacks, burpees and variants of these.
Abs
Stretch.

Each workout is 32-40 minutes.

Nice thing about BeachBody is you can stream it, and do it in the comfort of your home. I could use a Turkish personal trainer to push me harder. Will run that by the wife.
 

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Her workouts sound similar to the Beach Body LIIFT 4 workouts-- a mix of supersets, body weight exercises, cardio, abs and stretching at end. All workouts are with dumbells
Day 1 Chest/Triceps
Day 2 Back and Biceps
Day 3 Stretch
Day 4 Shoulders
Day 5 Legs
3 sets of 10 Reps of 9 different exercises or 4 sets of 10 Reps of 6 different excercises;
HIIT of body weight exercises such as squat jacks, burpees and variants of these.
Abs
Stretch.

Each workout is 32-40 minutes.

Nice thing about BeachBody is you can stream it, and do it in the comfort of your home. I could use a Turkish personal trainer to push me harder. Will run that by the wife.
Pretty much a version of that - dumbells and pulleys. only time we use a bar is when doing squats and deadlifts. It's funny...at our gym, they have a 25 yd artificial turf with football marking in the middle of the gym. This is where we start all workouts, stretching, bands, resistance etc...The hardest workouts is when you don't leave this area for the full workout. hitting the weights, pull downs etc is a welcome break...
My wife also trains with this PT so we are all good. lol
 
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Pretty much a version of that - dumbells and pulleys. only time we use a bar is when doing squats and deadlifts. It's funny...at our gym, they have a 25 yd artificial turf with football marking in the middle of the gym. This is where we start all workouts, stretching, bands, resistance etc...The hardest workouts is when you don't leave this area for the full workout. hitting the weights, pull downs etc is a welcome break...
My wife also trains with this PT so we are all good. lol

Living the dream ;)
 

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I am going on 57 this year. I am now down to 152 lbs and 10% BF. Arms and shoulders ripped and waist down from 36 to between 30 and 31.
Well if you ever get yo fat *** to our tailgate, we'll fatten that waist size up for ya!
 

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Her workouts sound similar to the Beach Body LIIFT 4 workouts-- a mix of supersets, body weight exercises, cardio, abs and stretching at end. All workouts are with dumbells
Day 1 Chest/Triceps
Day 2 Back and Biceps
Day 3 Stretch
Day 4 Shoulders
Day 5 Legs
3 sets of 10 Reps of 9 different exercises or 4 sets of 10 Reps of 6 different excercises;
HIIT of body weight exercises such as squat jacks, burpees and variants of these.
Abs
Stretch.

Each workout is 32-40 minutes.

Nice thing about BeachBody is you can stream it, and do it in the comfort of your home. I could use a Turkish personal trainer to push me harder. Will run that by the wife.

This description of a workout is likely to scare away some of our posters who want to lose weight with minimal commitment. Squatjacks and Burpees? Come on man.
 
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This description of a workout is likely to scare away some of our posters who want to lose weight with minimal commitment. Squatjacks and Burpees?
For the back/bicep routine- after the 3 supersets of 6 exercise of 10 reps, this was the routine:

60 seconds of Catcher Squats - squat in catcher's stance, spring feet out to a plank, back to squat and jump up;
45 seconds of mountain climbers (brutal after first 60 seconds;
30 seconds of squat twists- swat, touch floor, jump and rotate 180 degrees.

Repeated 3 times with 5 or 10 seconds rest between exercises. The mountain climbers are brutal on the second and third set. I could use someone pushing me harder.

Other workouts on LIIFT 4 do variations to prevent boredome and change things up.