He - she - why do you care so much?

atlkvb

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You are either male or female, until you undergo a sex change operation.

People who aren't satisfied with the gender they are given at birth (either Male or Female) usually end up disappointed with the gender they try to be.

Be thankful for the life and gender you are Blessed with. That goes a longer way toward your happiness than trying to be something you are not or think that you are.
 

op2

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How? You can reproduce. Reproduction is the meaning of life. Everything else is just a distraction

You moved the goalposts. Why did you bring reproduction into it all of a sudden? And also, children can reproduce for part of their childhood so if reproduction is your thing you should be against gay sex but in favor of child sex.
 

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People who aren't satisfied with the gender they are given at birth (either Male or Female) usually end up disappointed with the gender they try to be.

Be thankful for the life and gender you are Blessed with. That goes a longer way toward your happiness than trying to be something you are not or think that you are.
Most people end up disappointed with life anyway
 

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You moved the goalposts. Why did you bring reproduction into it all of a sudden? And also, children can reproduce for part of their childhood so if reproduction is your thing you should be against gay sex but in favor of child sex.
Actually, no I didn’t. The basis earlier that posted mentioned the ability to reproduce if it were normal. Try and keep up. And a child is prepubescent. Translation, no ability to reproduce yet.
 

Boomboom521

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Using your logic earlier, the statutory rape claim is based on opinion. Right? The law is based on a principle of opinion. Right? And if both child and adult consent, how is it any different than 2 homosexuals? The Bible condemns it. Isn’t that based on a law? Both are mental illness.
The Bible, imo, is based on bs - and shouldn’t have anything to do with our society’s laws. The Bible condemns working on the sabbath and planting two different types of crops side by side.

I don’t think homosexuality is an illness. I don’t think transgender identity is an illness. Why does your opinion have to dictate my choices?

You can argue opinion on determining the age of consent if you’d like - it surely is valid to a point - but it’s clearly a losing argument at a point as well. Maybe those lines get blurred when discussing specific people (some people mature faster than others), but the issue exists in the unhealthy and dangerous imposition of one individual onto another sexually. It’s just not the same argument AT ALL when discussing rights of homosexuals or transgender.
 

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People who aren't satisfied with the gender they are given at birth (either Male or Female) usually end up disappointed with the gender they try to be.
I think there is a kernel truth in this, but probably not all. Peace isn't hard to come by, more so just harder to accept.
 

op2

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Most people end up disappointed with life anyway

No one in the world ever gets what they want\ And that is beautiful \
Everybody dies frustrated and sad \
And that is beautiful

--They Might Be Giants song "Don't Let's Start"
 

Boomboom521

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that force is motivated by desire. not sure I said desire for intercourse. I did say the desire to rape is present in both sexuality classifications when raping others.
The desire to force oneself onto another sexually is something I don’t understand. I’m sure it has to do with assertion of dominance, and I’m not opposed to people bringing s&m type stuff into their sex - but the forcing sex on another without consent is troubling to me and derivative of some type of antisocial behavior or tendencies. I do not parallel all desire as the same.
 

BigLickMountee

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The desire to force oneself onto another sexually is something I don’t understand. I’m sure it has to do with assertion of dominance, and I’m not opposed to people bringing s&m type stuff into their sex - but the forcing sex on another without consent is troubling to me and derivative of some type of antisocial behavior or tendencies. I do not parallel all desire as the same.
there are classifications of desire. the desire to die is not the same desire to have an orgasm.
 

atlkvb

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me personally? I don’t care. Call yourself whatever you want, I’ll respect it, but it doesn’t change the science. I’ve enjoyed not having to discuss this stupid **** the last 3 years.

I find it comical how folks on the Left want to be identified as they see themselves but when they see someone wearing a red MAGA hat they go berserk with their name calling and political identity smears.

Give me a break. [eyeroll]
 

Boomboom521

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Ok, What is the universal meaning? Without reproduction, life ceases to exist.
I think the universe works in forces in which we are unaware. But looking at one force we do understand, which is evolution, I think natural changes occur to protect species. How can we be certain that there isn’t a natural force that aims to protect our species through population control. Maybe homosexuality or simply the desire for non relationship fulfillment are products of that force?

I don’t think that view is completely crazy.
 

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I think the universe works in forces in which we are unaware. But looking at one force we do understand, which is evolution, I think natural changes occur to protect species. How can we be certain that there isn’t a natural force that aims to protect our species through population control. Maybe homosexuality or simply the desire for non relationship fulfillment are products of that force?

I don’t think that view is completely crazy.
If you gathered every gay alive, placed them on an island alone, would they flourish or die out? Once again, mental illness
 

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That question would be best answered by you, through your journey of life. Enjoy the learning experience. It certainly isn't about reproduction.
That question would be best answered by you, through your journey of life. Enjoy the learning experience. It certainly isn't about reproduction.
How does life continue without reproduction? Your intellectual deficiencies are showing again.
 
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BigLickMountee

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If you gathered every gay alive, placed them on an island alone, would they flourish or die out? Once again, mental illness
the potential there is to reproduce and they would. gay men have likely reproduced with gay women and most definitely produced heterosexual children.

I think they flourish up to the point they run out of space.
 

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the potential there is to reproduce and they would. gay men have likely reproduced with gay women and most definitely produced heterosexual children.

I think the flourish up to the point they run out of space.
They would have to have man on woman normal sex. As nature intends
 

atlkvb

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So is being old a mental illness then?

No! The difference?

One...aging...is a normal biological process.

The other.....sexually cross identifying....is totally driven by errant thought. There is nothing biological about "thinking" yourself as a woman when your physiological and biological makeup is male.

You can pretend you are Johnny Unitas all day long if you are a Woman, but when Deacon Jones body slams you to the ground physics and biology take over your mental capacities.
 

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No! The difference?

One...aging...is a normal biological process.

The other.....sexually cross identifying....is totally driven by errant thought. There is nothing biological about "thinking" yourself as a woman when your physiological and biological makeup is male.

You can pretend you are Johnny Unitas all day long if you are a Woman, but when Deacon Jones body slams you to the ground physics and biology take over your mental capacities.

That reminds me of this Babylon Bee bit.

https://babylonbee.com/news/motorcycle-that-identifies-as-bicycle-sets-world-cycling-record
 

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I think I said that.

homosexual man reproduces with a homosexual woman producing a heterosexual child. To reproduce man and woman are required to have "normal sex".

Nobody is questioning that heterosexual sex is how children are made (outside of IVF and modern tech I mean). I don't know how that relates to people being gay.

Heterosexual people kissing doesn't make children so should heterosexual people not kiss?
 

dave

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Nobody cares how you identify in prison. If its a hole your fukd.
 
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