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RedMyMind

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regionsdoc said:
I really dislike this quote from HCMR:
"If we keep it simple, we're not going to be a competitive team at the highest level"

You know what will help you become competitive at the highest level? Not missing out on 15 extra practices and a game at the end of the year!!! Run the dang ball 3 times on 1st and G at the 5, either score a TD or kick a FG, and make Maryland try to drive the field with 2+ mins left with 80K+ fans screaming. You have to get to a bowl game, period!! If your OC isn't smart enough to make the simple (CORRECT) calls when needed, you need to move on to a better OC who has common sense. There will always be second guessing of coaches, but you can't teach someone common sense.
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so forgo the practices during the season to run a gimped version of the offense to make a bowl game to then flip it to the "real" offense you want to run?
 
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king_kong_

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RedMyMind said:
and those place are top 10 teams with amazing athletes
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#14 - Appalachian St
#16 - USF

the list of 1st year OCs who've performed better than Satt goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on

**takes breath**

and on and on and on and on and on and on
 
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RedMyMind

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king_kong_ said:
#14 - Appalachian St
#16 - USF

the list for 1st year OCs who've performed better than Satt goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on

**takes breath**

and on and on and on and on and on and on
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we were talking about top 8 offenses of 2023. Now we are including G5 teams?
 
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king_kong_

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RedMyMind said:
they play in G5
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so?

both were *** last year on offense then canned their underperforming OCs

now they're in the top 20

are you suggesting our offense would be in the top 20 if we played in the sun belt instead of against our schedule, which thus far contains exactly 2 teams over .500?
 
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RedMyMind

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king_kong_ said:
so?

both were *** last year on offense then canned their underperforming OCs

now they're in the top 20

are you suggesting our offense would be in the top 20 if we played in the sun belt instead of against our schedule, which contains exactly 2 teams over .500?
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Was Tim Beck an amazing OC?
His first year as an OC he took 2009 offence ranked at 75 to 38 in 2010.
It had everything to do with talent acquisition in Tim's case.
 
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RedMyMind said:
and if you don't make the bowl game with the new cutdown offense? You just wasted weeks worth of practices for the future.
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It was 3 goal line plays, had nothing to do with wasting anything, and had potential to gain 15 more practices in which to instill “culture”.

What seemed wasted was an opportunity to take points, the lead, and let our defense play.

We disagree on this, and likely neither of us will change our opinion much.

Go Big Red!
 
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dinglefritz

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RedMyMind said:
Was Tim Beck an amazing OC?
His first year as an OC he took 2009 offence ranked at 75 to 38 in 2010.
It had everything to do with talent acquisition in Tim's case.
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Beck like all of our OC’s was unjustly maligned. The guy could recruit too. I still think he’ll be a good head coach. Coastal is giving him a shot.
 
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RedMyMind

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Spectrumalaska said:
It was 3 goal line plays, had nothing to do with wasting anything, and had potential to gain 15 more practices in which to instill “culture”.

What seemed wasted was an opportunity to take points, the lead, and let our defense play.

We disagree on this, and likely neither of us will change our opinion much.

Go Big Red!
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That is a separate issue and I can see both sides of the argument. Hindsight is easy to say we should have done X.
 
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RedMyMind

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dinglefritz said:
Beck line all of our OC’s was unjustly maligned. The guy could recruit too. I still think he’ll be a good head coach. Coastal is giving him a shot.
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I agree. My overall point was that things are never black and white.

The teams with the best offenses this year that have new OCs is because the former ones, along with their offenses, were so damn good that got better jobs. Nothing remotely comparable to our situation.

Verdict is still out on Sat. Much too early to see how he pans out at Nebraska.
 
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RedMyMind

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inWV said:
Beck wasn't the OC until 2011.
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I was thinking about that as I was driving into work.
I remember Beck saying it was like being handed the keys to a Ferrari.

Shawn Watson did pretty dang good at Nebraska except when he had Zac Lee. Almost like talent affects offensive performance.
 
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HuskerO said:
It feels like our QBs regress as the game goes along. We should play all 3 (HH, Sims, Purdy), but rotate them every 3 plays to 2 series max.
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Sounds ridiculous. And it's actually a great idea. Why the hell not at this point?
 
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Wasker77

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Is Longval going to be on the travelling roster? If Purdy gets hurt and Sims keeps turning the ball over are the Huskers just going to pack-up and go home?
 
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dinglefritz

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Wasker77 said:
Is Longval going to be on the travelling roster? If Purdy gets hurt and Sims keeps turning the ball over are the Huskers just going to pack-up and go home?
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Doesn’t sound like Longval is going. Haarberg can hand off and pass apparently. Just can’t run.
 
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king_kong_

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Rhule said today Longval will travel

also said the top 3 will "be healthy for the game" (generous) and he expects one of those 3 to be out there at all times

take it FWIW
 
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