“You’ve got to be a little creative in this league”

RaulJones

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Frost’s comment can be loosely translated to:

“Do something cute to score at the 1 yard line” (when all you have do line up and run it in)

“Onside kick when you’re up by two scores and have the momentum”.

Personally I liked the game plan Whipple called. Frost hired Whipple to do the play calling. Let the man call the game.
One QB run may have opened up the run game.
 

Redscarlet

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Apparently Northwestern did not need to be creative on offense to beat Nebraska.
In reality he is throwing a temper tantrum being upset that he isn’t the one calling the plays any more..

And with that decision to onside kick he better think twice putting his assistance under the bus..
 

TFrazier_rivals269992

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In reality he is throwing a temper tantrum being upset that he isn’t the one calling the plays any more..

And with that decision to onside kick he better think twice putting his assistance under the bus..

In reality, Northwestern played basic football on offense and just waited for Nebraska to implode.
 

mgbreeze

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Offensive creativity.


People were so pumped that Feist earned a blackshirt. Maybe it's not a good sign if a short, light walk-on is in the 2 deep on the DL? I'm not saying he is specifically the problem, but if that's all we got it's gonna be another long season.
 

RaulJones

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People were so pumped that Feist earned a blackshirt. Maybe it's not a good sign if a short, light walk-on is in the 2 deep on the DL? I'm not saying he is specifically the problem, but if that's all we got it's gonna be another long season.
I hate the 3-4 defense

It has a huge flaw.
 

Redscarlet

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People were so pumped that Feist earned a blackshirt. Maybe it's not a good sign if a short, light walk-on is in the 2 deep on the DL? I'm not saying he is specifically the problem, but if that's all we got it's gonna be another long season.
He earned it as a walk-on, but I was very surprised he started the game or played so many snaps..
That was a concern of mine during the 4Q…
 

mikecanale

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He earned it as a walk-on, but I was very surprised he started the game or played so many snaps..
That was a concern of mine during the 4Q…
I have a feeling we would have seen more of Drew if he was here for all of fall camp. Also, Wynn, although talented, just hasn't been in that many games during his college career.
 

TheWayITellEm

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cubsker_rivals142943

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It's not a good look for frost, but I kind of agree. We murdered them last year with the perimeter run game. We ran one play to Ajay that was an easy 8 or 9 yards outside. Otherwise, everything was between the tackles.
 

BubsFinn

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Iowa is the least creative team in the league and still managed 9 wins last year. Of course Nebraska fires coaches for 9 win seasons, so there’s that.
 

rucker4

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The loss was bad enough, but making this comment after the game may be even as bad. So many take-a-ways from this comment by not only the coaching staff but by the players. Did Frost actually think this would be a motivational comment to his coaches and help things? Instead of a private staff meeting with his offensive coaches to address this, he decided instead to tell the "media".
 

schuele

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Maybe it's time to stop looking for short cuts and actually win a game in the trenches?

And I don't mean the Huskers have to run the ball all, or even most, of the time - but don't get pushed around on both sides of the ball by freaking Northwestern.
 

phoenix4nu

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Maybe it's time to stop looking for short cuts and actually win a game in the trenches?

And I don't mean the Huskers have to run the ball all, or even most, of the time - but don't get pushed around on both sides of the ball by freaking Northwestern.
Not sure they have the talent to do that.
 

Mack In Motion

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"Getting creative" in the game last week directly led to the "L".

Had all the momentum and looked sharp until the onside kick special teams meltdown, which led to the team once again folding like a cheap tent.

But that fits in with Frost's entire "No fear of failure" mantra, which has to be the dumbest philosophy to ever be trotted out in a game built on team, assignment, and discipline.

That philosophy has led to 4+ years of

-****** ball control
-****** penalties
-****** special teams play in all facets
-****** game management by QB's and coaches
-****** clock management

That's how you lose 457 one-score games in a row. Because one or more of the above bite you in every game to the tune of 10-14 points. Which turns your 7-10 point advantage into another "L".

Not afraid to fail.

Adios, Frost. At least 1.5 years too late. Just like AM's departure.

Every person associated with this program wanted you to succeed here. All necessary resources were in place for that to happen. You rode the horses and philosophy you brought with you right into the ditch.
 
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SLOHusker

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I do not think there is any doubt he was casting shade at Whipple. And with good reason in my view. Whipple's play calling in the run game was atrocious, with run after run between the tackles for no gain. Grant had one long run and that was it. We did run a few plays to the perimeter and they were more successful. Then Smothers comes in and runs one play well. And given the fact that NW could not handle our QB run game or our option game last year, then why the heck don't you leave him in and see if he could ignite a spark?

All that said, this is the very reason why Alberts laid a turd last year in not firing Frost then. By forcing him to hire new coaches and by in essence forcing him to give up his status as play caller, he has neutered his head coach precisely as a head coach. This ******** we have been reading about how the new offense would be a "meshing" of the Whipple and Frost offenses is nonsense, because what we saw yesterday was Whipple's offense entirely. For his entire career Frost has favored a zone-read offense with a dual threat QB. I actually like that offense and I think it works well when you have a better QB than the one we had and a better offensive line. Watching the more pro style offense of Whipple flounder in the second half must have been galling for Frost who probably felt like intervening but did not dare to lest he be accused of interfering in the play calling, which he had been forced to give up.

The entire situation is just dysfunctional as hell and is a recipe for more trouble. There is just a whole bad vibe surround the Whipple-Frost relationship which kind of smacks of an infantilized Frost taking orders from his elder statesman coach. When Whipple enters the press room there is a whole vibe of "finally, there is an adult in the room" and when Frost enters the vibe is "Oh here comes the spoiled, arrogant kid again."

Frost is a lousy head coach. He should have been fired. But his legacy as a Husker saved his ***. It is time to admit that the entire Devaney/Osborne thing is dead, dead, dead. It is time to stop these hires that try to relate us again to that era. And I include the hiring of Alberts in that as well. If Alberts can't find the balls to fire Frost then he should be fired too. Clean house and open the checkbook for a new AD and a new head football coach who know how to build a football program from scratch. Because that is where we are now. We need a complete reinvention of Husker football from the ground up. Because based on what I saw yesterday I see us going 2-10 or 3-9. And if that happens watch how fast our current recruiting class goes up in smoke and how many guys transfer out.

This dumpster fire was created by Steve Pederson and Sean Eichorst who both fired our only two successful coaches post Osborne. Were Pelini and Solich great coaches? No. But they were solid coaches. Neither one could compete against elite teams, but at least they beat the teams they should and got us to bowl games. Now we need an AD with some balls and some fire and a real vision. **** the sell out streak. **** the tunnel walk. **** the balloons. Find a coach and a staff who know how to build a program.
Callahan really wasn't that bad. That 5-7 record in 2007 with a very difficult schedule following two straight winning seasons (with an appearance in the Big 12 championship) seems almost unattainable now. I do wonder how he would have done if given one more season and the opportunity to replace the DC. That season the "Tradition Coalition" was undermining the program from within and that is something that to this day negatively affects the program.
Pelini benefitted from Callahan's recruits the first two years, which were also his best years. Pelini is better than Frost, but only because he beat the teams that were less talented. Every time NU met a good team that wasn't hobbled by something (like the heavily injured Georgia team) they got blasted.
 

NorthWillRiseAgain

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I’d rather him do the Bo and just say “what do you think!?” Or the Riley “Well gosh, we tried hard, and we still have ice cream, so not all that bad?”
 

Hugo_Stiglitz7

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Right,

Because 4 years of crotch rot's the 7 yards behind the LOS swing pass were the gold standard for creativity.
 

Husker1078

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I'd like to see more "creativity" in the run game.... Nebraska doesn't seem to climb to the 2nd level defenders in the zone scheme very well.... NW did a great job on the combo blocking to the LBs... Nebraska had one nice gap scheme run on the counter trey to Grant for the TD, which felt like the only run he got to make a move at the 2nd level...
 

Red Runney

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Throws his OC and new offensive assistants under the bus when those are the very same guys who are trying to save his job. Ridiculous.

It takes a special kind of person to go 10-25 in the conference and criticize his own coaches in their first game out.
They're the hired help taking the heat (blame) is what they do!
 

braves3

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You have to be creative? Like play good defense? Have at least one sack? A good running back. A coach that does onside kick up 11 is not creative. A coach that puts in running back or your quarterback at the goal line is creative. A shuttle pass would be creative. A flea flicker creative. A running back throwing the ball creative.
 

dsmalls3

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Frost throwing Whipple (who will be the interim HC in October) under the bus is such a bad look. Frost was being a little whiney brat throwing a hissy fit because Trev won’t let him call plays anymore. The offense did more than enough to win. The D giving up 31 points and over 500 yards to NW - not exactly an offensive juggernaut - was the problem.

The offense scored 0 points in the 2nd half. That is not more than enough to win
 

ChiLoop

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that is 1 of 2 Nebraska teams with a winning record iowa has beaten in the last 50 years
Well considering Iowa didn’t play NE in about 35 of the past 50 years and NE has sucked so bad the last 5... LMAO!
 
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