Frost Will Be Retained

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This a rundown of my thoughts on the state of the program and why I think Frost will be retained barring blowout losses to Wisky or Iowa.

As frustrating as the Frost era has been, it is undeniable that we have improved the overall talent level and competitiveness of the program. We have the talent to compete with anyone in the country save the SEC elites.

I am not presenting that as an excuse to keep Frost based on morale victories and close calls. I am just stating facts. The defense improvement is undeniable. Offensively.. well I'll get to that next.

The Martinez effect is what ultimately makes this team an enigma. Take years of proven win predicting statistics, football strategy and throw them out the window because we have a QB that defies all logic. I could write a book on the mystery that is Adrian Martinez but I'll try to keep it as short as I can

He keeps us in games against good defensive opponents because he can mask terrible offensive line play by making an incredible scramble or long pass play.

He keeps bad or mediocre teams in games against us because he is wildy inconsistent with his accuracy and almost plays worse with a clean pocket.

He ultimately loses us most games with poor decision making, missing open Wrs, turnovers and being not clutch at all in big moments

This perpetually makes us competitive because his raw talent is usually good for a few unexpected scores but his inconsistenty will never allow us to put the 4 or 5 scoring drives together that we need to win games.

Couple this with unexplainable running back rotations, inconsistent oline play and schizophrenic play calling. And the offense is a cluster f*** of epic proportions.

What we need to do? Blow up the offense. Replace nearly everyone on the offensive staff. Do something different. Try like hell to get a transfer portal QB and move on from Martinez. Or at least open up the competition

I think we will make some changes to the scheme and offensive staff and Trev will give Frost another year. I just worry we won't change enough.

What we need to do is blow up the offense and start from scratch from approach and scheme.

I don't know if I like it but I think we are looking at a staff shakeup with a one year window to get to a bowl game or its over. I would like to see the whole offensive staff go but I'm not sure we'll see that.

I see a light at the end of the tunnel eventually for this program. Frost may not be the guy to lead us there but it's coming!

GBR! Let's go beat the eff out of Wisky and Iowa!
 

antirowboat

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Wisconsin is giving up an average of 7 points per game in their last 5 games. They are going to send Scott Frost into concussion protocol watching Wisconsin defense obliterate the Nebraska offense.

A 3-9 finish, no winning season, last place in the Big Ten West. But congrats on being a cult member.
 
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Blow up the offense?

Frost has had 4 years, and in that time he has continuously failed to establish a reliable offense. If it doesn’t happen with a 4 year starter at quarterback, it isn’t going to happen.

The improvement this year was all on the defensive side and had nothing to do with Frost.
 

Rushmorehusker

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No.... way... in.... hell..... if he finishes 3-9. If they keep him after 3-9 year 4 they will lose half the fan base... enough already. He is a failed HC ... he needs to see the door.
 
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So the defensive coordinator is the reason why we keep our offensive minded head coach. Sounds like a great recipe for championships

The one side of the ball Frost hasn’t touched is the one that improved.
 

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confirmed frost is being retained, confirmed tonight
 

HUSKERFAN66

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I'm surprised the stadium was that full. Good deal. Defense again played their butts off. Special teams still is a total train wreck and a good QB and stud rb would make a huge difference. WR don't trust QB either.

Frost will be retained with offense assistant coaching changes and portal starting QB. If he's unwilling to do that adios.

Team hasn't quit
 

mt_slothmore

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Wisconsin is giving up an average of 7 points per game in their last 5 games. They are going to send Scott Frost into concussion protocol watching Wisconsin defense obliterate the Nebraska offense.

A 3-9 finish, no winning season, last place in the Big Ten West. But congrats on being a cult member.
Right, and Ohio State was going to put up 70 on us…you’re a flake if there ever was one
 

antirowboat

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Right, and Ohio State was going to put up 70 on us…you’re a flake if there ever was one
Turn on a Wisconsin game. Then come back and talk. I will bookmark your post too so we can talk about if after Wisky game.
 

antirowboat

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Even if they did bring Frost back for another season it just becomes a wasted season since he will fail to win again anyways and will be fired next year. Thus, its a matter of being smart and just doing it after Iowa or wasting another year and doing it next year. The same result is going to happen anyways.
 

JOHNNY N

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confirmed frost is being retained, confirmed tonight

I'm surprised the stadium was that full. Good deal. Defense again played their butts off. Special teams still is a total train wreck and a good QB and stud rb would make a huge difference. WR don't trust QB either.

Frost will be retained with offense assistant coaching changes and portal starting QB. If he's unwilling to do that adios.

Team hasn't quit
No mention of the garbage oline?
 

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Wisconsin is giving up an average of 7 points per game in their last 5 games. They are going to send Scott Frost into concussion protocol watching Wisconsin defense obliterate the Nebraska offense.

A 3-9 finish, no winning season, last place in the Big Ten West. But congrats on being a cult member.

You make a prediction like this every week. What will really happen, another soul sucking, inexplicable loss in a way we haven’t yet imagined.
 

Harry Caray

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What good offensive assistants are going to want to come work for a lame duck head coach who's had 4 straight losing seasons?

And If Frost is retained, I would expect Fisher and Tuioti to flee the sinking ship.
 

mt_slothmore

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So you are the one that lost the MSU bet. You can keep the money. It's obvious you need it more.
Don’t bet on football but again, nice try…you had a funny in your own mind, which is mostly where you operate thank heavens
 

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I'm surprised the stadium was that full. Good deal. Defense again played their butts off. Special teams still is a total train wreck and a good QB and stud rb would make a huge difference. WR don't trust QB either.

Frost will be retained with offense assistant coaching changes and portal starting QB. If he's unwilling to do that adios.

Team hasn't quit
Trev shouldn’t have to micromanage Scott, as loyal frost is to Martinez I can’t see him asking several his assistants to move on. And if frost is retaining Adrian will be back,No thanks I want to see the football team never ever give the jersey number two to another quarterback it needs to forbidding
 

Bigredhunter

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We are a few changes away from winning. Here's what I think we need in order to start winning.

A.) Hire a Special Teams coach.
B.) Get the returning B1G Kicker of the Year healthy again and bring in another Kicker.
C.) Keep our current OLine rotation and bring in another OLine coach.
D.) Bring in another QB coach.

Don't start the rebuild over. Make necessary adjustments and start winning these close games.

****Think back to Solich making major staff changes in 2002 and improving our record from 7-7 to 10-3. We decided to start over with Callahan the next season and suffered our first losing season in decades.
Don't start over when you're competitive.
 

BuckysBoys1

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I think TA sees what’s happening behind the scenes. Frost gets another year, but Verdusco, and Austin will be fired. AM will be brought back also.
 

Kakdawg

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This a rundown of my thoughts on the state of the program and why I think Frost will be retained barring blowout losses to Wisky or Iowa.

As frustrating as the Frost era has been, it is undeniable that we have improved the overall talent level and competitiveness of the program. We have the talent to compete with anyone in the country save the SEC elites.

I am not presenting that as an excuse to keep Frost based on morale victories and close calls. I am just stating facts. The defense improvement is undeniable. Offensively.. well I'll get to that next.

The Martinez effect is what ultimately makes this team an enigma. Take years of proven win predicting statistics, football strategy and throw them out the window because we have a QB that defies all logic. I could write a book on the mystery that is Adrian Martinez but I'll try to keep it as short as I can

He keeps us in games against good defensive opponents because he can mask terrible offensive line play by making an incredible scramble or long pass play.

He keeps bad or mediocre teams in games against us because he is wildy inconsistent with his accuracy and almost plays worse with a clean pocket.

He ultimately loses us most games with poor decision making, missing open Wrs, turnovers and being not clutch at all in big moments

This perpetually makes us competitive because his raw talent is usually good for a few unexpected scores but his inconsistenty will never allow us to put the 4 or 5 scoring drives together that we need to win games.

Couple this with unexplainable running back rotations, inconsistent oline play and schizophrenic play calling. And the offense is a cluster f*** of epic proportions.

What we need to do? Blow up the offense. Replace nearly everyone on the offensive staff. Do something different. Try like hell to get a transfer portal QB and move on from Martinez. Or at least open up the competition

I think we will make some changes to the scheme and offensive staff and Trev will give Frost another year. I just worry we won't change enough.

What we need to do is blow up the offense and start from scratch from approach and scheme.

I don't know if I like it but I think we are looking at a staff shakeup with a one year window to get to a bowl game or its over. I would like to see the whole offensive staff go but I'm not sure we'll see that.

I see a light at the end of the tunnel eventually for this program. Frost may not be the guy to lead us there but it's coming!

GBR! Let's go beat the eff out of Wisky and Iowa!


You may be right but you think the fan base is split and up in arms THIS year?? Just wait till week 1 next year when we go across the water and lose a close one to Northwestern. Then OU comes to Lincoln with that new QB and drops a fifty burger on us. Man it's gonna get ugly...

I hope you are wrong though. When a coach tells you before the season that this is his best team. That team has several 6 year Srs playing significant roles. That team has a 4 yr starter at QB. YET that team proceeds to go 3-9 or 4-8 with a last place in the division. AND the last rated recruiting class in the conference as well... There is a huge problem.


The powers that be who are willing to trot him back out there for another year are even worse than him trotting our struggling QB out there knowing he isn't the guy.
Can't make me understand it...


Holla
 

antirowboat

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You may be right but you think the fan base is split and up in arms THIS year?? Just wait till week 1 next year when we go across the water and lose a close one to Northwestern. Then OU comes to Lincoln with that new QB and drops a fifty burger on us. Man it's gonna get ugly...

I hope you are wrong though. When a coach tells you before the season that this is his best team. That team has several 6 year Srs playing significant roles. That team has a 4 yr starter at QB. YET that team proceeds to go 3-9 or 4-8 with a last place in the division. AND the last rated recruiting class in the conference as well... There is a huge problem.


The powers that be who are willing to trot him back out there for another year are even worse than him trotting our struggling QB out there knowing he isn't the guy.
Can't make me understand it...


Holla
Yep. If they bring Frost back for anoher year, there will be no hope during the off-season, players will leave to the portal (Betts, Fidone, and others), and another recruiing class will be terrible.

Other coaches will be like "thanks for the win next season."

The good news is that a coach can come in and fix things pretty fast with the portal.

We already know what will hapapen next year...lose to Northwesern, then come back and lose to North Dakota with a dozen excuses for the loss.
 
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This a rundown of my thoughts on the state of the program and why I think Frost will be retained barring blowout losses to Wisky or Iowa.

As frustrating as the Frost era has been, it is undeniable that we have improved the overall talent level and competitiveness of the program. We have the talent to compete with anyone in the country save the SEC elites.

I am not presenting that as an excuse to keep Frost based on morale victories and close calls. I am just stating facts. The defense improvement is undeniable. Offensively.. well I'll get to that next.

The Martinez effect is what ultimately makes this team an enigma. Take years of proven win predicting statistics, football strategy and throw them out the window because we have a QB that defies all logic. I could write a book on the mystery that is Adrian Martinez but I'll try to keep it as short as I can

He keeps us in games against good defensive opponents because he can mask terrible offensive line play by making an incredible scramble or long pass play.

He keeps bad or mediocre teams in games against us because he is wildy inconsistent with his accuracy and almost plays worse with a clean pocket.

He ultimately loses us most games with poor decision making, missing open Wrs, turnovers and being not clutch at all in big moments

This perpetually makes us competitive because his raw talent is usually good for a few unexpected scores but his inconsistenty will never allow us to put the 4 or 5 scoring drives together that we need to win games.

Couple this with unexplainable running back rotations, inconsistent oline play and schizophrenic play calling. And the offense is a cluster f*** of epic proportions.

What we need to do? Blow up the offense. Replace nearly everyone on the offensive staff. Do something different. Try like hell to get a transfer portal QB and move on from Martinez. Or at least open up the competition

I think we will make some changes to the scheme and offensive staff and Trev will give Frost another year. I just worry we won't change enough.

What we need to do is blow up the offense and start from scratch from approach and scheme.

I don't know if I like it but I think we are looking at a staff shakeup with a one year window to get to a bowl game or its over. I would like to see the whole offensive staff go but I'm not sure we'll see that.

I see a light at the end of the tunnel eventually for this program. Frost may not be the guy to lead us there but it's coming!

GBR! Let's go beat the eff out of Wisky and Iowa!
Get lossed, we dont want to pay $1.66 million per win unless we are competing for national titles.
 

Hford

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You may be right but you think the fan base is split and up in arms THIS year?? Just wait till week 1 next year when we go across the water and lose a close one to Northwestern. Then OU comes to Lincoln with that new QB and drops a fifty burger on us. Man it's gonna get ugly...

I hope you are wrong though. When a coach tells you before the season that this is his best team. That team has several 6 year Srs playing significant roles. That team has a 4 yr starter at QB. YET that team proceeds to go 3-9 or 4-8 with a last place in the division. AND the last rated recruiting class in the conference as well... There is a huge problem.


The powers that be who are willing to trot him back out there for another year are even worse than him trotting our struggling QB out there knowing he isn't the guy.
Can't make me understand it...


Holla
Can we get out of that Ireland game? Serves no purpose. I'd rather play NW in Evanston where we'd have half the crowd anyway.
 

antirowboat

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People will think I'll be made or whatever if Frost does come back, but that isn't the case. If Frost can't win again next year, there isn't even a debate to be had if he should remain as the head coach. So it will be up to him if his head coaching career is dead or still lives on.

The way I look at it, Matt Campbell will still be around to hire after the 2022 season. Dan Lanning will have another year of experience. If Fickell stays at Cincy he can show if he can win without the QB he has now.

Dave Aranda will have another year of experience as a P5 head coach. Same thing with Jeff Hafley.

So things really don't change in who we could hire if Frost fails during the 2022 season. It just delays things a year.

If Frost somehow does win next seson, then we are good to go into the 2023 season.
 

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😂 my favorite part of this is not even that frost will be retained, but the expectations for next year with frost would still just be a bowl birth. I hate to say it because scott frost was one of my all time favorite players, but he might truly be the death of husker football. We went from 9 wins wasnt good enough to now "well you can win 6 games by year 5 and you'll be golden!"
 

antirowboat

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😂 my favorite part of this is not even that frost will be retained, but the expectations for next year with frost would still just be a bowl birth. I hate to say it because scott frost was one of my all time favorite players, but he might truly be the death of husker football. We went from 9 wins wasnt good enough to now "well you can win 6 games by year 5 and you'll be golden!"

If Frost comes back and fails to get to a bowl game again, at least it's not a debate we have to have for the rest of our lives....but what if we had given him another season with changes debate. So, in a way, it can actually be a healthy thing in the long-term for the program.
 

B1G RED RULES

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This a rundown of my thoughts on the state of the program and why I think Frost will be retained barring blowout losses to Wisky or Iowa.

As frustrating as the Frost era has been, it is undeniable that we have improved the overall talent level and competitiveness of the program. We have the talent to compete with anyone in the country save the SEC elites.

I am not presenting that as an excuse to keep Frost based on morale victories and close calls. I am just stating facts. The defense improvement is undeniable. Offensively.. well I'll get to that next.

The Martinez effect is what ultimately makes this team an enigma. Take years of proven win predicting statistics, football strategy and throw them out the window because we have a QB that defies all logic. I could write a book on the mystery that is Adrian Martinez but I'll try to keep it as short as I can

He keeps us in games against good defensive opponents because he can mask terrible offensive line play by making an incredible scramble or long pass play.

He keeps bad or mediocre teams in games against us because he is wildy inconsistent with his accuracy and almost plays worse with a clean pocket.

He ultimately loses us most games with poor decision making, missing open Wrs, turnovers and being not clutch at all in big moments

This perpetually makes us competitive because his raw talent is usually good for a few unexpected scores but his inconsistenty will never allow us to put the 4 or 5 scoring drives together that we need to win games.

Couple this with unexplainable running back rotations, inconsistent oline play and schizophrenic play calling. And the offense is a cluster f*** of epic proportions.

What we need to do? Blow up the offense. Replace nearly everyone on the offensive staff. Do something different. Try like hell to get a transfer portal QB and move on from Martinez. Or at least open up the competition

I think we will make some changes to the scheme and offensive staff and Trev will give Frost another year. I just worry we won't change enough.

What we need to do is blow up the offense and start from scratch from approach and scheme.

I don't know if I like it but I think we are looking at a staff shakeup with a one year window to get to a bowl game or its over. I would like to see the whole offensive staff go but I'm not sure we'll see that.

I see a light at the end of the tunnel eventually for this program. Frost may not be the guy to lead us there but it's coming!

GBR! Let's go beat the eff out of Wisky and Iowa!
At the bar tonight - the majority consensus among a bunch of Iowa and Iowa State fans is that Nebraska will keep Frost too. They are claiming we cannot get any decent head coach to look our direction, our fan base defends mediocrity, and if Frost ever reached 500 that the university would give him a raise and extension. Oh the Respect Nebraska has in 2021…
 

maly

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😂 my favorite part of this is not even that frost will be retained, but the expectations for next year with frost would still just be a bowl birth. I hate to say it because scott frost was one of my all time favorite players, but he might truly be the death of husker football. We went from 9 wins wasnt good enough to now "well you can win 6 games by year 5 and you'll be golden!"
It's definitely sad and I would rather we just can Frost because I don't think he's the guy.

But we are trying to salvage the program right now. If Trev has a good coach in the wings ready to sign on he should jump on it and do it.

If he doesn't, it should already be expected of Frost to make the necessary coaching changes on the offense.

If Frost refuses, he has to be fired on the spot. He'd be lucky to even have the opportunity to keep his job.

What we ABSOLUTELY CANNOT DO is fire Frost without a coach ready to go or at least a VERY good idea of what's out there and who's interested.

That being said I think we have a better pitch for a potential coach then we think.

Expectations being too high isn't an issue like it was when we fired Bo. We could sell time and support.

We aren't getting blown out like we were with Riley and Bo. We could sell the talent on the roster.

We play in the BiG West. We could sell an easier than normal path to a championship.

And of course. Dollar bills. If Trev did anything well at UNO, it was raising money. It wouldn't take much convincing the donors to get rid of a 15-30 coach.

And as a glory days alumnist himself. He won't have to contend with Golden boy Frost hurdle.

We will find out if we really have a big boy AD in the coming days.

There's a lot of options for Trev. Fire and hire. Demand changes. but if he allows Frost back with no changes to the staff then he has failed and it'll be another year of Martinez, close losses and frustration.

Let's pray that doesn't happen.

GBR






😂 my favorite part of this is not even that frost will be retained, but the expectations for next year with frost would still just be a bowl birth. I hate to say it because scott frost was one of my all time favorite players, but he might truly be the death of husker football. We went from 9 wins wasnt good enough to now "well you can win 6 games by year 5 and you'll be golden!"
 

studed

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We are a few changes away from winning. Here's what I think we need in order to start winning.

A.) Hire a Special Teams coach.
B.) Get the returning B1G Kicker of the Year healthy again and bring in another Kicker.
C.) Keep our current OLine rotation and bring in another OLine coach.
D.) Bring in another QB coach.

Don't start the rebuild over. Make necessary adjustments and start winning these close games.

****Think back to Solich making major staff changes in 2002 and improving our record from 7-7 to 10-3. We decided to start over with Callahan the next season and suffered our first losing season in decades.
Don't start over when you're competitive.
how can start a rebuild over when frost has not built anything in 4 years? Close games do not mean you are building anything in year 4.
 

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At the bar tonight - the majority consensus among a bunch of Iowa and Iowa State fans is that Nebraska will keep Frost too. They are claiming we cannot get any decent head coach to look our direction, our fan base defends mediocrity, and if Frost ever reached 500 that the university would give him a raise and extension. Oh the Respect Nebraska has in 2021…

Why would anyone think Iowa and ISU fans know anything about Nebraska football?
 

BEAN DOG

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At the bar tonight - the majority consensus among a bunch of Iowa and Iowa State fans is that Nebraska will keep Frost too. They are claiming we cannot get any decent head coach to look our direction, our fan base defends mediocrity, and if Frost ever reached 500 that the university would give him a raise and extension. Oh the Respect Nebraska has in 2021…
Those Boys might of had a few to many!! Talk about a team (Iowa coaches )( Iowa scheme )who defend mediocrity, not Iowa fans who defend mediocrity. Nebraska fans certainly don't defend mediocrity.
 
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