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cmblizz96

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We will lose a lot on defense our strong point this year. Can we really expect in year five to take a step forward?
 
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We will lose a lot on defense our strong point this year. Can we really expect in year five to take a step forward?
Not with same staff and loss of 7 starters on D and loss of Martinez, IMHO. OL should get a lot better hopefully (been saying that for 4 years).
 

antirowboat

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Yes, next question. D will be good next year. People act like Nebraska would be the only team in the country with players using up all of their elligibility. The entire linebacker room will back for starters.
 

Hawkeyegoofball

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We will lose a lot on defense our strong point this year. Can we really expect in year five to take a step forward?
One word: Portal.

Look at what Penn State did with it's defense from 2020 to 2021 by smartly using the portal.

It can be done.
 

PCastro

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One word: Portal.

Look at what Penn State did with it's defense from 2020 to 2021 by smartly using the portal.

It can be done.
Yep. Portal is huge for adding for need. And those fan bases that pay best (NLI) will have an advantage
 
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On defense we likely lose: Stille, Domman, Dismuke, Williams, maybe CTB, maybe DD

We are keeping most of the starting D Line and Linebacker starters, so that’s really not that bad
 

HominidHusker

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I worry a lot about the defense, but we’ll have decent talent waiting in the wings. I’m not sure what kind of dropoff it’ll be, but losing Damion Daniels (hope he comes back) and Jojo would be the biggest hits.
Myles Farmer has also been abused this year, but he’ll still be capable. Other than his performance against Michigan with 3 pass breakups, CTB is very replaceable with who we got.
Losing so many heartbreakers this year is a really big red bitter pill to swallow. It still stings to have the effort this year thrown away by a handful of game changing plays that shouldn’t otherwise happen.
 

JOHNNY N

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Not with same staff and loss of 7 starters on D and loss of Martinez, IMHO. OL should get a lot better hopefully (been saying that for 4 years).
So the same defensive staff that has put together a defense that has improved every single year since they got here isn't going to be able to put together another good defense next year?

Sure bud.
 

Headcard

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Not with same staff and loss of 7 starters on D and loss of Martinez, IMHO. OL should get a lot better hopefully (been saying that for 4 years).

Loss of 7 starters on D?? Stille (if he’s really even a starter) JoJo and the two safeties. This is what our defense will look like. Pretty dam talented and experienced :


DE: Thomas
NT: Danniels
DE: Robinson
OLB: Nelson
ILB: Heinrich
ILB: Reimer
OLB: Tannor
CB: Newsome
CB: CTB/Clark (CTB could enter the draft)
S: Farmer
S: NPG/Gifford

Combine that with an offense that loses one starter (Toure) and a much kinder schedule and you would have to be seriously pessimistic to think this team shouldn’t win a ton of games.
 

steinek11

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One word: Portal.

Look at what Penn State did with it's defense from 2020 to 2021 by smartly using the portal.

It can be done.
The portal is like no consequences free agency for college. We've got to find a way to monetize good players leaving lesser programs and coming to Nebraska at positions of need using NIL. It's the world we live in. No sense fighting against it. It can help us. Heck, Alabama has no problem taking the best players from Tennessee. If you want to cash checks, now and in the future, you move to Alabama.
 

oldjar07

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So the same defensive staff that has put together a defense that has improved every single year since they got here isn't going to be able to put together another good defense next year?

Sure bud.
It's very possible. The extra year of experience for this defense was huge, and it's likely we won't have that same benefit next year. If Daniels and CTB come back, I think we'll be fine. If Daniels leaves especially, I think we may struggle.
 

JOHNNY N

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It's very possible. The extra year of experience for this defense was huge, and it's likely we won't have that same benefit next year. If Daniels and CTB come back, I think we'll be fine. If Daniels leaves especially, I think we may struggle.
Daniels will be a tough replacement.
 

inWV

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Who replaces Toure in the slot? Nixon, Alante or TBD.
 

redwine65

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daniels is the least replaceable, that's a vital spot that sets the tone for your d..
we seen it with noonan, c. peter, suh....it's what dictates if they run on you or not.
we need to be work'in overtime on filling his spot if he's nfl bound.
 

BugsAreQualityProtein

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Defensive line will be young and inexperienced, but the defense as a whole should be solid. Not too concerned about that side of the ball as Frost has little to do with it.
 
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So the same defensive staff that has put together a defense that has improved every single year since they got here isn't going to be able to put together another good defense next year?

Sure bud.
Most definitely, unfortunately it will be too late to realize next year.
 

redwine65

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word on the street is manning and betts have been lackadaisical researching the playbook.
that ought be corrected soon. the day that you tarry, is the day that you die.
 

BugsAreQualityProtein

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word on the street is manning and betts have been lackadaisical researching the playbook.
that ought be corrected soon. the day that you tarry, is the day that you die.
Just my opinion, but I think frost’s scheme is too complicated for it’s own good. I literally believe that Frost and or Lubick watch NFL on Sundays and try to install some random play they happened to like.
 

Headcard

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Defensive line will be young and inexperienced, but the defense as a whole should be solid. Not too concerned about that side of the ball as Frost has little to do with it.

The DL will be very experienced. Thomas, Rodgers, Robinson and Daniels have all played a lot of football for us.
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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We will lose a lot on defense our strong point this year. Can we really expect in year five to take a step forward?
I think we can expect the defense to have a small drop off.. many of next years guys are seeing playing time.

Adrian will be back with a more seasoned OL.

I see it as a teeter totter.. a little better offense, a little worse defense.. will it matter? I doubt it.
 
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So you're saying they won't be able to put together a good defense next year?
Possible, not likely IMO. I suspect mistakes galore once again with a bunch of new players. I doubt the staff can land any solid transfer portals at this point, unless we win 4 more games.
 

Husker.Wed._rivals

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Assuming NU doesn't totally implode the rest of the way and this staff is back, next year we will almost win, but lose several games we are picked to lose; and lose at least two we are picked to win. Nothing will change because the philosophical approach this staff takes won't change, and that philosophy (whatever it is) doesn't win a lot of games.
 

JOHNNY N

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Assuming NU doesn't totally implode the rest of the way and this staff is back, next year we will almost win, but lose several games we are picked to lose; and lose at least two we are picked to win. Nothing will change because the philosophical approach this staff takes won't change, and that philosophy (whatever it is) doesn't win a lot of games.
Lofl....ok.
 

RedMyMind

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Assuming NU doesn't totally implode the rest of the way and this staff is back, next year we will almost win, but lose several games we are picked to lose; and lose at least two we are picked to win. Nothing will change because the philosophical approach this staff takes won't change, and that philosophy (whatever it is) doesn't win a lot of games.
If only Oregon and UCF won a bunch of games...
 

FargoNDHusker

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I see the defense being similar to this season, might take a couple weeks for the guys who haven't seen regular playing time to get their feet under them but I'm not worried about that side of the ball. IMO I'd like to see a qb from the portal (which I think is unlikely) Austin and Verduzco replaced with coaches that actually improve players.
 

timnsun

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Assuming NU doesn't totally implode the rest of the way and this staff is back, next year we will almost win, but lose several games we are picked to lose; and lose at least two we are picked to win. Nothing will change because the philosophical approach this staff takes won't change, and that philosophy (whatever it is) doesn't win a lot of games.
So, the consensus on this board is, in fact, quite a bit has changed with Trev at the helm. Why do you think nothing will change?
 

antirowboat

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Just my opinion, but I think frost’s scheme is too complicated for it’s own good. I literally believe that Frost and or Lubick watch NFL on Sundays and try to install some random play they happened to like.
The stuff Frost is running how is easier but requires a lot of reps to master it.
 
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The stuff Frost is running how is easier but requires a lot of reps to master it.
His playbook is virtually the same as it was at Oregon and UCF, minor tweaks and some additions that evolved from defenses adjusting to alignments and tendencies.

You act like after the Illinois game he installed a completely different playbook, with completely different blocking schemes. Just because they haven't run the plays at Nebraska doesn't mean they didn't have them in the playbook the whole time.

The main difference is that Martinez is able to be a vital part of the run game without carrying the ball 17 times per game.

Again if you look at just a couple of stats from Frost's time at UCF and as OC in Oregon you will see that the QB only ran the ball about 8 or 9 times per game and the average yards per passing attempt were in the 9.7-10.5 range.

In 2021 Martinez has already had 4 games with less than 10 carries, from 2018-2020 he had a total of 5 games in the single digits. 4 of 7 games vs 5 of 28 games. Running backs carrying the running load. Martinez is also sliding and running out of bounds more, so he isn't taking a bunch of unnecessary hits. Very much reminiscent of Mariota and Milton.

From 2018-2020 Martinez averaged 7.5, 7.8, 7.0 yards per pass attempt. In 2021 the he is at 9.9 ypa and the passing attempts per game have remained pretty constant ranging from 27-31 attempts per game, right at the same pace as the numbers from Oregon and UCF.
 
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