Next year
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hopefully frost is all over the polar bear so gopher, badgers, wolverines and other mange varmints, won't know what hit em.
Happer and Schaefer's take on next year - it's a good listen (warning, not appropriate for koolaid drinkers . . . or Sipple). Wasn't sure if good to link, so here's the segment title if you want to pull up the podcast.
October 22nd: SEG 7 – If this is Nebraska’s best roster, what might it look like next year?
October 22nd: SEG 7 – If this is Nebraska’s best roster, what might it look like next year?
This is Frosts best team. 3-5. Same mistakes every year. Losing best players on this year's team. Next year's team wont be better and very likely will be worse. Recruiting struggling. Dont know what it is that people are to be excited about. Keep saying we're close. We arent. When is the payoff? Cant reshape the offense by changing assistants when it is your HC's offense (how in yr 4 is it like this?). We are a bad team with a bad head football coach
4th verse same as the 1st. That should cover it.
I agree with a lot of what you are saying as far as outcomes. I do believe some better assistant coaching on the O line for instance could make a huge difference. I also would vote for some veteran experience in assistant coaches, those who have seen about everything, know how to react to it, and not afraid to speak up. Overall, I think this staff is very young and simply not very experienced.
As an example, people went gaga over getting Lubick. He doesn't exactly have a long and glowing resume. How about our O line coach, look him up.
It is very tough breaking in a new inexperienced QB in the Big Ten. If Martinez does not return and Frost is forced to rely on Smothers or Haarberg to save his job, it will be a long season.
I guess its somewhat understandable given this year's record but recruiting is the biggest shocker to me. It has literally fallen off a cliff. IDK maybe they will make up some ground in the next 7 weeks.
Thanks, agree with a lot of that. We have pissed away so many games the last four years. But we are NOT losing the best players on this years team. Who are we losing? JoJo, Toure and the safeties? That’s not a lot.
What a dumb last paragraph. I don’t remember anybody being gaga over the hire of Matt Lubick. I do remember people questioning why we were hiring a bank employee as our OC.
Despite questioning this hire, Lubick does have a long and impressive resume. He has 16+ years coaching at the P5 level, including being OC at both Oregon and Washington(co-OC). He was named the national Wide Receiver Coach of the year in 2012.
You are correct that Greg Austin does not have a long and impressive resume and he never should have been selected to be Nebraska’s OL coach.
This team was supposed to be the best in the West this year on paper. But look what happens when we play the games. We *should* easily beat teams like Minnesota and Illinois. But we don’t.
I agree on the defense, there is very little reason to worry, maybe a tad green at safety but Chinander has shown improvement with our guys growing every year exactly how you draw it up. But that doesn’t at all mean we will win games. The offense seems to almost get worse every year with the most experienced QB in the conference. There is MAJOR cause for concern on offense.
I think defense will be okay, along with overall development, Chins seems to have his side developing the 2s and 3s.
As opposed to offense where our 1s are question marks.
well, the d was flat..but I can't blame them, they carried all our other games...the offense just misses the first half, because apparently the guys in the booth with headphones have to wait till half time to make adjustments.
apparently it's not something you can do as the half developes...
still for all that I don't have that dred I used to have thinking we will get blown out..
because although our d carries the games, our offense wakes up sometimes...
and I know I complain about wanting to go back to the run game, I can see what frost is trying to do, and it might work if we can wrestle up like 3 joe ganz's to compete with each other..a porkchop or two would work also
man if we had 0u's starting qb, frosts half walsh half dr.tom offense would be dynomite!
not to say martinez is bad, westercamp said a problem might be he has new receivers/backs around him every year, and it's hard to build timing that way.
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Daniels is going to be the big one if he comes back or not. He's the key to our rushing defense and by extension our entire defense.
Anyone else worried that if we make changes, we will need to give Frost "more time?"
No. Solich made changes and was gone the following year. Making changes doesn’t automatically reset the clock.
I don’t disagree… but if frost goes 5-7 this year, gets another year with staff changes, and goes 5-7 next year, does anyone think he gets more time after that? I sure don’t…
Stille (underrated in my opinion) and Daniels is huge (hard to pass up that $$ for 1 more year under the circumstances). Austin Allen and qb situation, whether or not AM stays or goes, will be an issue, as it always has been.
If retained, we will just have another losing season. I don’t see what that really accomplishes. Whatever you save from one year of buyout will be lost in fan apathy.
I think with next year's schedule, Frost could make a bowl. Which is actually terrifying because it would mean keeping him longer and I think he would go back to losing seasons once the schedule gets tougher.
Meanwhile during all of this our recruiting is tanking and transferring away from Nebraska is becoming more and more attractive.
While there may be a little truth to this, and we’ve also struggled to play same guys game to game, every WR except Toure was here last year and chemistry seems best with Toure.
Nature of college doesn’t typically permit multi-year starting WR’s across the board, plus AM is year 4.
The other thing I would add is that we simply don’t run many timing routes where there’s much chemistry involved, and AM rarely makes throws that make it seem a WR is in the wrong spot as much as he simply throws 3 yards over their head (even when it’s multi-year starter and 6’8” Austin Allen).
Many of AM’s completions are either to stationary targets or not from the pocket (scrambles, etc). They may lack chemistry on the scramble drill I guess, but there’s no timing to practice there. He generally seems slow with decision making.
I think the chances are that he would be excused, but if there are a few money people still in his corner, you never know. The narrative could still be we are "close" and seeing "progress" at 5-7 next year.
Yup. I kind of feel sorry for AM. He makes bad decisions and makes really bad throws too much, partly because it is a **** show inside his head, in large part because the coaching and plan (if any) are such a **** show.
I definitely put decision making issues on coaches when it’s the same 4 years in.
He’s not coached to recognize/make quick decisions despite any “quick blinker” coach speak.
2024 is a bear of a schedule. Would be a good time to get another coach in for the lighter schedules for the next 2 years and have them up to speed for 2024.