Guaranteed Rate Bowl

[dinglefritz]

Well, if it were me I’d go to play football. I guess my fault is the assumption that college coaches and players want to play football.
but I guess we’re a sorry program, and this is how sorry programs operate.
but like you said maybe they wont get invited, or maybe they will and accept.

I'm in my 60s and have a joint replacement. I've said for years, that I would pay a lot of money to just once be able to run down and cover a kickoff at the start of a Husker game. I miss playing sports so damned much. That said, these guys have had an extremely rough year. One of the reasons so many kids have bailed out is the emotional toll the social isolation has taken on them.

I read a story yesterday that the reason that the CDC now is recommending that schools be in person is that the drug overdose and suicide rates among high school and college aged kids has gone through the roof. The mental harm we've done to our youth is unimaginable. College athletes are not immune to psychological damage and the social isolation these guys have faced is not what most of them signed up for. It's one of the reasons so many kids are transferring or opting out.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Didn’t somebody post that Nebraska should turn down a bowl bid a week or two ago and basically got criticized by most everyone on the board for making such an idiotic statement. Seems things have changed…

 

[Lincoln100]

If they don't want to play, it strikes me as mildly concerning.

 

[CatColumbia]

Guys, Frost said that it’s up to the players not him. He’ll coach the game if that’s what the PLAYERS want.
He basically said some guys haven’t been home since March and haven’t seen their families since then. Being disciplined for 9 consecutive months is exhausting. With the holidays coming up, I totally understand if they choose to take a break.
I hope we play but I’ll be on the couch with my family the whole time. Those kids are not going to be excited to prepare, fly and play with such a short turnaround time.

 

[HuskerLLM]

I'm in my 60s and have a joint replacement. I've said for years, that I would pay a lot of money to just once be able to run down and cover a kickoff at the start of a Husker game. I miss playing sports so damned much. That said, these guys have had an extremely rough year. One of the reasons so many kids have bailed out is the emotional toll the social isolation has taken on them.

I read a story yesterday that the reason that the CDC now is recommending that schools be in person is that the drug overdose and suicide rates among high school and college aged kids has gone through the roof. The mental harm we've done to our youth is unimaginable. College athletes are not immune to psychological damage and the social isolation these guys have faced is not what most of them signed up for. It's one of the reasons so many kids are transferring or opting out.

This ^^^^

The psychological toll on young people is devastating

15 yo young man in GI just committed suicide last week

Fans need to get some perspective

 

[Spartanhusker]

If our team doesnt want to play then they all should lose their scholarships

What a bunch of punks.

Yeah I said it.

“ MRS. Jeans???” Wow... tough edge....

 

[Lincoln100]

This ^^^^

The psychological toll on young people is devastating

15 yo young man in GI just committed suicide last week

Fans need to get some perspective

I would think that practicing and being around your teammates would be a good thing, not a negative

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

I love the talk about “changing the culture” yet turning down a bowl game reeks of quitters and kids that think they are doing someone a favor by playing football.

Not wanting to play anymore football this year is a microcosm of this entire program.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

I was listening to Creighton-St John's at the gym the other night, so I got a chuckle out of your post. During the Creighton game, they were talking about how Creighton does a great job of avoiding consecutive losses. Whereas Nebraska football does a terrible job of stringing together consecutive wins.

Those teams are on completely opposite ends of the psychological spectrum.

(Now bring on the obligatory inflammatory Jaysker comments )

Dirty Jaysker

 

[Redscarlet]

I love the talk about “changing the culture” yet turning down a bowl game reeks of quitters and kids that think they are doing someone a favor by playing football.

Not wanting to play anymore football this year is a microcosm of this entire program.

In all fairness we don’t know 100% how healthy this team is and if their spent what are we gaining just one week of practice that none of the younger players are gaining experience....

 

[PeliniTheCrutch_rivals294365]

In all fairness we don’t know 100% how healthy this team is and if their spent what are we gaining just one week of practice that none of the younger players are gaining experience....

“spent”?

 

[Redscarlet]

“spent”?

slang “ worn out “

 

[steinek11]

If they don't want to play, it strikes me as mildly concerning.

exactly right. young people don't always recognize the opportunities in front of them. This stuff is fleeting. Take a bowl if you can get one and then go home for a week to relax and connect with your family. Regret is the worst.

 

[saluno22]

In all fairness we don’t know 100% how healthy this team is and if their spent what are we gaining just one week of practice that none of the younger players are gaining experience....

I wonder if the NCAA would permit a closed-door scrimmage with another team in the spring like they do in basketball in the fall?

Heck, college baseball has fall exhibitions and volleyball has one in the spring, not even closed door. Those I think are great.

Then again, neither carry the injury risk of football. But it is good to get a look against not your own teammates. Putting it as a closed-door scrimmage takes the pressure off to a degree.

 

[saluno22]

exactly right. young people don't always recognize the opportunities in front of them. This stuff is fleeting. Take a bowl if you can get one and then go home for a week to relax and connect with your family. Regret is the worst.

Particularly for a team who hasn't been to a bowl the last three seasons.

 

[Husker4lyfe15]

Frost is exhausted and tired.. dude you’re getting paid 5 million dollars a year to coach football. Kind of a chicken **** comment

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

In all fairness we don’t know 100% how healthy this team is and if their spent what are we gaining just one week of practice that none of the younger players are gaining experience....

I dont know if it's Scott's fault. This whole generation is so incredibly soft and bowl games mean less and less every year. I mean do we really care about a game with no fans in Tucson when by no measure do we deserve to even be in a bowl game? If this were the Rose Bowl I'd understand people being upset for us not participating. But at this point I'm not surprised this team is tapping out, we suck and they know it.

 

[Mrs.Jeans15]

“ MRS. Jeans???” Wow... tough edge....

Iil too.much?...lol

 

[V1nufanx4]

Well, if it were me I’d go to play football. I guess my fault is the assumption that college coaches and players want to play football.
but I guess we’re a sorry program, and this is how sorry programs operate.
but like you said maybe they wont get invited, or maybe they will and accept.

Hello McFly!! Wow, were you in a coma in September? This coach/team begged to play in September and were crucified nationally for it. Personally I’d hope they play another game for selfish reasons but understand completely if they don’t.
GBR!

 

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

This ^^^^

The psychological toll on young people is devastating

15 yo young man in GI just committed suicide last week

Fans need to get some perspective

My grandpa died around age 28 from a disease he contracted while working 12 hours a day in a dirty, cold slaughterhouse. My dad quit school at age 14 to work to help the family make ends meet, then ended up in a fox hole on Guadalcanal getting shot at and getting malaria. He then started a family and went to school nights on the GI Bill pretty much precluding sleep. My young life was nowhere near that bad, but I was in the Marine Corps and then had to work a lot while going to school pay for it.

Every generation has challenges, some extreme. It is really sad something is wrong with our society where young people determine taking their lives is easier than rising to the challenges. I don't know what the answer is, but something is terribly wrong.

 

[Iroh2]

Amusing to listen to so many that have never been the leader of anything give leadership advice. The entire organization has been on lockdown for 9 months and are worn out. So many organizations are running into the same problem and it is a real issue. People are exhausted.. Frost will have to take the pulse of the team to see what they want to do. Maybe if they can go sit on the beach or somewhere else warm it might be worth it, but it would probably be better for them to see their families and come back for winter conditioning somewhat refreshed.. and money is not a motivator so get over that notion...

 

[Lincoln100]

My grandpa died around age 28 from a disease he contracted while working 12 hours a day in a dirty, cold slaughterhouse. My dad quit school at age 14 to work to help the family make ends meet, then ended up in a fox hole on Guadalcanal getting shot at and getting malaria. He then started a family and went to school nights on the GI Bill pretty much precluding sleep. My young life was nowhere near that bad, but I was in the Marine Corps and then had to work a lot while going to school pay for it.

Every generation has challenges, some extreme. It is really sad something is wrong with our society where young people determine taking their lives is easier than rising to the challenges. I don't know what the answer is, but something is terribly wrong.

Smart phones / social media are poison.

 

[Lincoln100]

Amusing to listen to so many that have never been the leader of anything give leadership advice. The entire organization has been on lockdown for 9 months and are worn out. So many organizations are running into the same problem and it is a real issue. People are exhausted.. Frost will have to take the pulse of the team to see what they want to do. Maybe if they can go sit on the beach or somewhere else warm it might be worth it, but it would probably be better for them to see their families and come back for winter conditioning somewhat refreshed.. and money is not a motivator so get over that notion...

What is it like on campus? Are kids going to class? Im sure they are masked. The union is open? Do clubs and organizations still meet? Kids still get together for gatherings / parties?

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

Smart phones / social media are poison.

Funny how Steve Jobs wouldnt let his kids go near Iphones or Ipads.

 

[K_Y_E]

Oh ok so the point of college football and being on a forum isnt to actually play/enjoy football. However, it’s not anout my enjoyment. Its about being the type of program that either wants to play or doesnt. Which program is better?


Madness I tell you. How dare I want football and think football players and coaches should want to play football! what a spoiled brat I am.

I knew it wouldn’t take long for some of our pretentious fan base begin attacking your statements.

 

[red scowl]

As bad as the football team is, I would think they would like to have more in game reps to help the younger players.

It just sounds weak turning down a bowl game after wanting to play football so badly.

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

Is there a bowl in Chattanooga?

 

[Rick.Shaw1]

In Phoenix at Case field.. Most likely the best bowl game Nebraska would play in but sounds like the team will turn down any bowl invites..

Playing day after Christmas late at night on a baseball field is not very appealing for the players that are already spent..

Minnesota and West Virginia are projected playing in the Guaranteed Rate Bowl..

Sounds like Camelot in the world of CFB.

 

[CatColumbia]

Is there a bowl in Chattanooga?

Or Kazakhstan

 

[inthedeed]

none of us know how f'd up this covid thing has been for these kids. would like to see them just mentally toughen up and do this. however not being in their shoes i think whatever they decide will be just fine.

 

[Anon1661636388]

I wonder if last night was a home game, the team would be more likely to want to play in a bowl game. If they play in a bowl game, they will have played 9 games in 10 weeks, with 6 of those games being on the road. That's a lot of travel. Add in the stress of this trip due to the snowstorm.

6 road trips in 10 weeks I'm sure is taxing. Throw that in addition to just the overall wear and tear on this situation, and it becomes more understandable.

I think the Big Ten should have had the game in Lincoln since Nebraska only got 3 home games this year due to the Wisconsin game being cancelled. Meanwhile, last night was Rutger's 5th home game.

Yes tough but they wanted to play football. They have said it all year they just want to play. So back up what you say and play football. Don't back peddle bc it was harder then you thought and now your tired. If you get an invite then play. You have said it all along now its time to back that up. Really bad look to recruits when you say one thing and do the opposite but I guess I should expect that from frost. Also your acting like 9 games in 10 weeks is a lot. What is a regular season 12 games in 13 weeks. No wonder they don't play in bowl games they must be exhausted.

 

[mikecanale]

I thought the culture had changed to a team that "loves football". IMHO if you love football, you play another game if the opportunity is there. Frost sounded worn out last night and wanted the season to be over. Maybe the players want one more.

How do you know this about Frost.

 

[Mack In Motion]

1) I doubt we play in a bowl game if invited
2) I'm not in the program so I don't know if we should do so. However,
3) It would be a really bad look to turn down a bowl if offered this season. Citing "covid fatigue" after going to battle with the conference elites -- over not playing games this year due to their covid concerns -- would be a weak move.

 

[timnsun]

Yes tough but they wanted to play football. They have said it all year they just want to play. So back up what you say and play football. Don't back peddle bc it was harder then you thought and now your tired. If you get an invite then play. You have said it all along now its time to back that up. Really bad look to recruits when you say one thing and do the opposite but I guess I should expect that from frost. Also your acting like 9 games in 10 weeks is a lot. What is a regular season 12 games in 13 weeks. No wonder they don't play in bowl games they must be exhausted.

They wanted to play football. They played. Now you are saying it’s a bad look because they aren’t meeting your expectations of what that means? Playing in a bowl means another week of practice, another flight somewhere (6th time in 8 weeks or something like that...) and if they opt out it will hurt recruiting? Yeah, when Frost tells recruits he left it up to the team to decide they’ll be like, “I’m out.” What are you smoking?

Man, some people are reaching deep and wide to crap on Frost and this team.

 

[cHUCK001]

Instead of whining about how tired he is, he better be thankful that he is an alum, has a contract extension, and is making 5 million a year to do the job. Because after what he has produced on the field, most schools would have fired his *** tomorrow. We are all tired. Do your job.

 

[egaRdeR]

My grandpa died around age 28 from a disease he contracted while working 12 hours a day in a dirty, cold slaughterhouse. My dad quit school at age 14 to work to help the family make ends meet, then ended up in a fox hole on Guadalcanal getting shot at and getting malaria. He then started a family and went to school nights on the GI Bill pretty much precluding sleep. My young life was nowhere near that bad, but I was in the Marine Corps and then had to work a lot while going to school pay for it.

Every generation has challenges, some extreme. It is really sad something is wrong with our society where young people determine taking their lives is easier than rising to the challenges. I don't know what the answer is, but something is terribly wrong.

At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.

 

[otismotis08]

Smart phones / social media are poison.

Post-modern satisfaction and goals are hard to comprehend. There seems to be an acceptance with simply having a cell phone and being able to afford fast food delivered to your door. Settling for virtual reality. A brave new world indeed.

 

[Headcard]

The way the players went in "goodbye mode" immediately after the game tells it all! I have a feeling this was already pre-determined by Frost last week that we wasn't playing another game even tho the NCAA said all teams could.

I am pretty sure the players wanted to play another game, suspected seniors and guys with NFL potential.

That's why I wish coaches (Frost) contracts (5mil) were tied to wins, BOWL GAMES, Championships, points and so forth....NOT GUARANTEED! There is no INCENTIVE for him to want to play another game....

Those seem like a lot of bad assumptions.

 

[Headcard]

exactly right. young people don't always recognize the opportunities in front of them. This stuff is fleeting. Take a bowl if you can get one and then go home for a week to relax and connect with your family. Regret is the worst.

There are like 16 teams that have already said they will turn down a bowl game.

 

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

How do you know this about Frost.

I don't know Coach Frost or what he is thinking. My post said it sounded (to me) like he was not wanting to play a bowl game.