Crayon goes down to lowly KU

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Expect the Huskers to lay the wood to the Jays this weekend. You heard it here. No inside game .for Crayton. Couldn’t handle the KU bigs.
 
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9-18 on free throws.

Two best shooters were 5-16 from 3.

14 turnovers.

One-point loss to the #5 team in the nation

Highly doubt neb will lay any wood
 

jimmyjoseph

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9-18 on free throws.

Two best shooters were 5-16 from 3.

14 turnovers.

One-point loss to the #5 team in the nation

Highly doubt neb will lay any wood
could have won the game with better free throw shooting alone
 

dinglefritz

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Expect the Huskers to lay the wood to the Jays this weekend. You heard it here. No inside game .for Crayton. Couldn’t handle the KU bigs.
well right now the only "BIG" we have playing much is the Flying Frenchman and he's not all that big. That lack of an inside game will be a problem for NU all year IMO or at least until we get the transfer off of suspension.
 

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Dang I was going to try to catch that game didn't realize it was so early. I work for a living
 

nudan92

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Kansas is overrated this year. I've watched them a couple times. Creighton didn't play all that well and almost won the game today. I know transitivity doesn't mean anything in college sports, but we did beat NDSU by 22 and KU struggled with them only beating them by 4. Of course that probably just means Creighton will hammer us.
 

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KU also struggled with Kentucky, who was blown out against a bad Georgia Tech team. KU is a top 5 team as much as NU is.
 

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well right now the only "BIG" we have playing much is the Flying Frenchman and he's not all that big. That lack of an inside game will be a problem for NU all year IMO or at least until we get the transfer off of suspension.
This is an honest question, and don't think I'm trying to be a butt head. Do you understand the game of basketball? I honestly think you don't get it.

Basketball is about mismatches, and that doesn't only mean "If the other team has a 7 footer we can't win. Do you realize most "Bigs" account for less than 10% of the scoring on most teams. Mismatches come in all forms, and we got Creighton beat in a few spots.

We have Banton who is going to be a nightmare for any team we face.

Four guys that create their own shots whenever they want in Allen, Banton, McGowens and Webster

A grade A defense with probably a top 10 defender in the nation in Mcgowens. A bruiser in Stevenson and mismatch city with Banton.

Our weakness is post play, but I do not think Creighton puts any nightmare figure like Garza down low.

Creighton may beat us, but it will not be a blowout like people think this year. This team is more athletic then our 2018 team, and I didn't that would be possible.
 

dinglefritz

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This is an honest question, and don't think I'm trying to be a butt head. Do you understand the game of basketball? I honestly think you don't get it.

Basketball is about mismatches, and that doesn't only mean "If the other team has a 7 footer we can't win. Do you realize most "Bigs" account for less than 10% of the scoring on most teams. Mismatches come in all forms, and we got Creighton beat in a few spots.

We have Banton who is going to be a nightmare for any team we face.

Four guys that create their own shots whenever they want in Allen, Banton, McGowens and Webster

A grade A defense with probably a top 10 defender in the nation in Mcgowens. A bruiser in Stevenson and mismatch city with Banton.

Our weakness is post play, but I do not think Creighton puts any nightmare figure like Garza down low.

Creighton may beat us, but it will not be a blowout like people think this year. This team is more athletic then our 2018 team, and I didn't that would be possible.
Your point is well taken about Banton and matchups. BUT, Nebraska struggled against Nevada in part because our outside shots weren't falling and Nevada had a large human being to rebound and defend the paint. I don't care how tall you are, in D-1 basketball and especially the B1G you still need some beef in the paint. IF we continue to shoot the way we've shot from outside in every game other than McNeese State, it will be problematic for us. Hell NDSU gave NU fits most of the game with their rebounding and big man. We pulled away late but we struggled for a good part of the game.

It's going to be fun to see if this group can shoot it well enough to make Fred's system work in the B1G. Like the team. Like their attitudes. We need to shoot it better than we have I'm afraid. My point had little to do with Creighton. It had more to do with longer term issues we will face. I've played enough basketball to understand that a large assed man takes up more room in the paint and is extremely tough to get around or move. Shaq would have been just another guy if he had weighed 100 pounds less.
 
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vighawk

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Kansas is overrated this year. I've watched them a couple times. Creighton didn't play all that well and almost won the game today. I know transitivity doesn't mean anything in college sports, but we did beat NDSU by 22 and KU struggled with them only beating them by 4. Of course that probably just means Creighton will hammer us.

KU is working in a lot of young guys. Every team has stinkers. They'll be fine.
 

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KU also struggled with Kentucky, who was blown out against a bad Georgia Tech team. KU is a top 5 team as much as NU is.
Self has been struggling to get the 1 and Done's in recent years. Kansas aren't world beaters this year. i'd be surprised if they win the XII.
 

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This is an honest question, and don't think I'm trying to be a butt head. Do you understand the game of basketball? I honestly think you don't get it.

Basketball is about mismatches, and that doesn't only mean "If the other team has a 7 footer we can't win. Do you realize most "Bigs" account for less than 10% of the scoring on most teams. Mismatches come in all forms, and we got Creighton beat in a few spots.

We have Banton who is going to be a nightmare for any team we face.

Four guys that create their own shots whenever they want in Allen, Banton, McGowens and Webster

A grade A defense with probably a top 10 defender in the nation in Mcgowens. A bruiser in Stevenson and mismatch city with Banton.

Our weakness is post play, but I do not think Creighton puts any nightmare figure like Garza down low.

Creighton may beat us, but it will not be a blowout like people think this year. This team is more athletic then our 2018 team, and I didn't that would be possible.
Creighton has not impressed me. They aren't as athletic as they've been in the past don't see an NBA guy on the roster and McDermott has seemingly forgotten how to coach defense since they joined the BE.
 

vighawk

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Creighton has not impressed me. They aren't as athletic as they've been in the past don't see an NBA guy on the roster and McDermott has seemingly forgotten how to coach defense since they joined the BE.

Creighton is damn good. Don't kid yourself.
 

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Creighton has not impressed me. They aren't as athletic as they've been in the past don't see an NBA guy on the roster and McDermott has seemingly forgotten how to coach defense since they joined the BE.

Their vastly improved defense is why they had final 4 potential last year. Alexander shut down all of the best big east guards. I thought Bishop was fantastic on D inside in the second half today.
 

vighawk

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Self has been struggling to get the 1 and Done's in recent years. Kansas aren't world beaters this year. i'd be surprised if they win the XII.
Self has been struggling to get the 1 and Done's in recent years. Kansas aren't world beaters this year. i'd be surprised if they win the XII.

It is well known fact that Self and some other coaches have shied away from top 10 to 15 talent because of the flight risk to go G league or overseas which he was burnt on with a recruit last year.
 

schuele

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Well if not this year, NU will certainly crush the Jays after [fill in name here] graduates.

Sooner or Later, every goober gets a new screen name.
 

Redscarlet

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Can’t afford to go 0-2 this week.. Need to beat Georgia Tech and let the chips fall where they lie against Creighton Friday night...
 

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I DO have a question, though...that game could have been called the SANCTIONS game, as they both have implicated cheating coaches...why didn't they play that up with themed tee shirts????

The Rug vs. The Doug
 

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This is an honest question, and don't think I'm trying to be a butt head. Do you understand the game of basketball? I honestly think you don't get it.

Basketball is about mismatches, and that doesn't only mean "If the other team has a 7 footer we can't win. Do you realize most "Bigs" account for less than 10% of the scoring on most teams. Mismatches come in all forms, and we got Creighton beat in a few spots.

We have Banton who is going to be a nightmare for any team we face.

Four guys that create their own shots whenever they want in Allen, Banton, McGowens and Webster

A grade A defense with probably a top 10 defender in the nation in Mcgowens. A bruiser in Stevenson and mismatch city with Banton.

Our weakness is post play, but I do not think Creighton puts any nightmare figure like Garza down low.

Creighton may beat us, but it will not be a blowout like people think this year. This team is more athletic then our 2018 team, and I didn't that would be possible.
Love your optimism and hope you are right but think you are overvaluing some of the players. Some of these guys can get off shots but will they be good shots, makable shots?

Really hope you are right about the Banton “nightmare”. On the negative, he’s a poor outside shooter, he can be sloppy with the ball under pressure and his lateral quickness is not good enough to contain too notch guards. Doesn’t matter much against Summit League and McNeese State but a number of times guards just went past him, it will be more difficult in the B1G. On the positive he has good vision in his passing, his length leads to a lot of blocks and rebounds for a guard. He’s a good addition, unique skill set but opposing coaches will not lose sleep over him.

This team is better than last year but it will be a tough year in conference. Look for the team to compete most nights. Expect 5 conf wins, maybe 6-7 if they figure out a way to rebound and avoid excessive turnovers. Fred will get the team where it needs to be but it will take some time. I’m getting the feeling a number of Husker fans think we are closer than we really are.
 

big red23

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Really hope you are right about the Banton “nightmare”. On the negative, he’s a poor outside shooter, he can be sloppy with the ball under pressure and his lateral quickness is not good enough to contain too notch guards. Doesn’t matter much against Summit League and McNeese State but a number of times guards just went past him, it will be more difficult in the B1G. On the positive he has good vision in his passing, his length leads to a lot of blocks and rebounds for a guard. He’s a good addition, unique skill set but opposing coaches will not lose sleep over him.
Read the hoop game day outlook today on here.

"Delano Banton one of three players in the country with 50+ points, 25+ rebounds and 20+ assists. That is all you need to know.

The nightmare matchup comes in multiple forms with him. Yes, he may not have the best 3 point shot, but he is definitely not sloppy with the ball like you indicated. His Assist to Turnover ratio is one of the best in the country +3.68 if I remember right.

You say he is sloppy with the ball... explain that a little bit, because the stat say otherwise

"IF" Banton finds a 3 point stroke this year, we may have ourselves a lottery pick on our team. He is a guy that can get a triple double on a regular basis. The best part is the other teams know they need to make him the focus and that is when McGowens and Allen can take the advantage. Banton is a nightmare for other coaches whether you want to admit it or not.
 

schuele

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"IF" Banton finds a 3 point stroke this year, we may have ourselves a lottery pick on our team. He is a guy that can get a triple double on a regular basis. The best part is the other teams know they need to make him the focus and that is when McGowens and Allen can take the advantage. Banton is a nightmare for other coaches whether you want to admit it or not.
I've been a fan of Banton since he took down the Badgers as a freshman at Western Kentucky. But come on, man. Banton has a long way to go before he gets an NBA combine invite, let alone be a lottery pick.
 

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F@ck Creighton
 

big red23

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I've been a fan of Banton since he took down the Badgers as a freshman at Western Kentucky. But come on, man. Banton has a long way to go before he gets an NBA combine invite, let alone be a lottery pick.
I repeat he is a 3pt shot away from being a lottery pick. He adds that threat he is a 6'9 player that can do everything.

Let's compare him to Roby who I was also high on as a freshman and people laughed when I said he'd be drafted.

Ball Handling = Banton
Size = Roby (Slight)
Explosiveness = Roby
Speed = Banton
Court Awareness = Banton
Height = Tie
Shot = Banton (although only slight)
Assists = Banton
Mentality = Banton
Leadership = Banton

Roby was drafted at 45, you tell me exactly why I am crazy. He is a 3pt shot away from being a lottery pick. He is a 6'9 point guard, yes that is a lottery pick type player. He gets range in his shot, he is unguardable. That is the part you don't get
 

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Self has been struggling to get the 1 and Done's in recent years. Kansas aren't world beaters this year. i'd be surprised if they win the XII.
Baylor is the cream of the BIG 12. Up hill climb for the Jayhawks
 

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I repeat he is a 3pt shot away from being a lottery pick.
It will be interesting to see. I see that being a big question, as it doesn't seem like there are a lot of examples of guys drastically improving their 3pt shooting at his age. Either they are a shooter or they aren't, and at 21% for his career he's got a long ways to go.
 

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It will be interesting to see. I see that being a big question, as it doesn't seem like there are a lot of examples of guys drastically improving their 3pt shooting at his age. Either they are a shooter or they aren't, and at 21% for his career he's got a long ways to go.
A ton of NBA players drastically improve their 3pt shot by working at it. Blake Griffin is one example, but it happens frequently.
 

mgbreeze

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A ton of NBA players drastically improve their 3pt shot by working at it. Blake Griffin is one example, but it happens frequently.
I'm always skeptical when someone tells me a "ton" of guys do something "frequently". Did you want to re-check Blake's stats and edit your post? Because he was 30% from 3 in college (already 9% better than Banton) and improved to 33% in the NBA. Let's agree that a 3% improvement isn't drastic.

Edit: I sound like a dick and I'm not trying to be. Obviously Banton has a very small sample size and I hope he is a lot better shooter than what we've seen. Would love to see him in the NBA.
 

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Expect the Huskers to lay the wood to the Jays this weekend. You heard it here. No inside game .for Crayton. Couldn’t handle the KU bigs.
Sadly, Nebraska is hardly ever ready to play Creighton. Creighton has a system set in place and always seems to have experienced players who are ready to win early in the season. Nebraska always seems to have fresh faces due to the influx of transfers in the Miles and Hoiberg eras.

Creighton has won 12 of the last 16. If this rivalry were played at the end of the year I think it’d be closer to an even split. I remember a number of years where Nebraska was playing better than them in February after losing to them in December.
 

schuele

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I repeat he is a 3pt shot away from being a lottery pick. He adds that threat he is a 6'9 player that can do everything.

Let's compare him to Roby who I was also high on as a freshman and people laughed when I said he'd be drafted.

Ball Handling = Banton
Size = Roby (Slight)
Explosiveness = Roby
Speed = Banton
Court Awareness = Banton
Height = Tie
Shot = Banton (although only slight)
Assists = Banton
Mentality = Banton
Leadership = Banton

Roby was drafted at 45, you tell me exactly why I am crazy. He is a 3pt shot away from being a lottery pick. He is a 6'9 point guard, yes that is a lottery pick type player. He gets range in his shot, he is unguardable. That is the part you don't get
Banton is already the same age Roby was when he got drafted in the second round. If he has a good season this year, he could get on some NBA teams' radar screens. Follow that up with a solid junior season and I could see him getting drafted, but his chances of being a lottery pick are tiny.

Like I said, I really like Banton and I'm glad he's a Husker. But if pegging him a potential lottery pick is the fandom test, I'll proudly fail it.