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MOHUSKER

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jmliar and Ray Finkle, but sub Trump for Marino



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oldjar07

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Bernie Sanders is a full time douche.

He is a 1%er who has managed to convince others that the problem with the country is all the other 1%ers. So, yes, in that regard, he's "sharp".

If he had one ounce of talent outside of suckling off the public teat, he would have held an actual job at some point in his life.

Not to worry for you, though, he will probably run for president until he is 104. And why wouldn't he? Each run for him essentially amounts to a several months long vacation, funded by someone else (a microcosm of his entire career).
Yeah, you're totally wrong. He only became a 1%er in the last few years from book deals. You're talking about a guy who has spent his whole life standing up for workers. He's stood by the working class and middle class his whole career. Other politicians only do it if it's convenient for them.
 

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Just getting by? What an absolute crock of ****. Just getting by with a smartphone in their pockets a flat screen on the wall and a roof over their head. OUr version of “just getting by” is like 2-1000 times better than the “just getting by” of every other generation of humans in world history.
Wages raised inder trump, highest unemployment ever for minorities and women.....and oh we’re just getting by. Time to elect the party that wants to raise taxes and over regulate, and get back to all them food stamp tecipients we had under the last guy. 🤮
Sure you can get a cheap smartphone or get a decent TV for a couple hundred bucks. Meanwhile food prices, housing costs, and healthcare costs continue to rise. I doubt having a flat screen on the wall gives you much comfort when you're struggling to pay for more essential needs.
 

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Just getting by? What an absolute crock of ****. Just getting by with a smartphone in their pockets a flat screen on the wall and a roof over their head. OUr version of “just getting by” is like 2-1000 times better than the “just getting by” of every other generation of humans in world history.
Wages raised inder trump, highest unemployment ever for minorities and women.....and oh we’re just getting by. Time to elect the party that wants to raise taxes and over regulate, and get back to all them food stamp tecipients we had under the last guy. 🤮
You are exactly correct. The economy under Trump is the very best in American history. Even during the enforced COVID-19 shutdowns people have been better off than during the bulk of the Obama years. This Sanders-led ideological movement to claim that during this peak era of employment we are a stratified society with 1800s-era sweatshp labor at the mercy of Ebenezer Scrooge is just a pathetic joke. You know who is lapping up that idea? Not lower income people. 20-40 year old woke white males.
 

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Sure you can get a cheap smartphone or get a decent TV for a couple hundred bucks. Meanwhile food prices, housing costs, and healthcare costs continue to rise. I doubt having a flat screen on the wall gives you much comfort when you're struggling to pay for more essential needs.
56% saying they are better off today than they were 4 years ago. That's a huge number, particularly under the current environment. **** was working, plain and simple.
 

I M HIPPY

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Those programs don’t serve me, they just cost me cash endlessly. I have no echo chamber, just two eyes and a functioning brain.

But keep loving daddy govt all you want. The overlords are benevolent and love you back. Promise.
Social Security and Medicare don't serve you? How do you think they work? When you are older and/or retired, they were built to be there for you so we don't have complete and abject poverty. If you die before you can realize the benefits, they'll provide support for your family. So yeah, you short-sighted and ignant sumbeech, they do serve you. Cost you cash endlessly is kind of hilarious. Your boy Trump prob paid less in taxes than you do, and you blame SS and Medicare? You are so close to getting it.
 
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Social Security and Medicare don't serve you? How do you think they work? When you are older and/or retired, they were built to be there for you so we don't have complete and abject poverty. If you die before you can realize the benefits, they'll provide support for your family. So yeah, you short-sighted and ignant sumbeech, they do serve you. Cost you cash endlessly is kind of hilarious. Your boy Trump prob paid less in taxes than you do, and you blame SS and Medicare? You are so close to getting it.
Call me all the names you want. I pay in and will never stop. I also will never consume.

I'm in my early 30s, do very well, plan for my family and future as if those programs don’t exist.

you’re welcome, leech. I hope both are canceled tomorrow. It won’t impact me in the least.
 

I M HIPPY

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Call me all the names you want. I pay in and will never stop. I also will never consume.

I'm in my early 30s, do very well, plan for my family and future as if those programs don’t exist.

you’re welcome, leech. I hope both are canceled tomorrow. It won’t impact me in the least.
You know what, the name calling is unnecessary. Withdrawn. Plan all you want, good for you. SS and Medicare are there as a security/safety net. Regardless, you or your family will get the benefit. Some people live off social security somehow. For others, its a big part of retirement planning. It will be there for you unless these goons in DC start messing with it.
 
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You know what, the name calling is unnecessary. Withdrawn. Plan all you want, good for you. SS and Medicare are there as a security/safety net. Regardless, you or your family will get the benefit. Some people live off social security somehow. For others, its a big part of retirement planning. It will be there for you unless these goons in DC start messing with it.
If they die, they die

I’ll be footing the bill for mush brains like you forever regardless
 

I M HIPPY

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If they die, they die

I’ll be footing the bill for mush brains like you forever regardless
We all foot the bill for each other. That's the point. I suspect you have no idea where your tax dollars go, which leaves you vulnerable to believing obnoxious right wing rhetoric. And unless you are making big bucks, you ain't paying enough in Income taxes to be whining about it anyway.
 
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We all foot the bill for each other. That's the point. I suspect you have no idea where your tax dollars go, which leaves you vulnerable to believing obnoxious right wing rhetoric. And unless you are making big bucks, you ain't paying enough in Income taxes to be whining about it anyway.
I thought the rich didn't pay taxes?

40+% of just $1 over a lifetime is a lot. we don't all pay for each other. the top earners pay a giant percentage of the total rake while only using public services when literally forced to, while others, like you, I'm guessing, pay several thousand bucks/year and walk around like they own the place.

and I suspect you don't know where your tax dollars go, either, since exactly none of us do outside of theory. nobody gets a receipt.

by all means, continue to shove this heroic bs down the throats of your students or co-workers at the dmv. I'm sure they're enthralled by it.
 
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jimmyjoseph

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Call me all the names you want. I pay in and will never stop. I also will never consume.

I'm in my early 30s, do very well, plan for my family and future as if those programs don’t exist.

you’re welcome, leech. I hope both are canceled tomorrow. It won’t impact me in the least.
in your early 30s explains a lot. a lot of wiseness yet to be accumulated. The elders possess the most. You aren't leeching when taking social security and medicare. its your own money. and the attitude you express towards your planning is the same attitude most americans have. you are not superior to others by wanting to have a retirement not based on social security only. You are different because you may be paid enough to actually make that happen.
 

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I thought the rich didn't pay taxes?

40+% of just $1 over a lifetime is a lot. we don't all pay for each other. the top earners pay a giant percentage of the total rake while only using public services when literally forced to, while others, like you, I'm guessing, pay several thousand bucks/year and walk around like they own the place.

and I suspect you don't know where your tax dollars go, either, since exactly none of us do outside of theory. nobody gets a receipt.

by all means, continue to shove this heroic bs down the throats of your students or co-workers at the dmv. I'm sure they're enthralled by it.
the vast majority of people on here quit listening to you months ago. now that we all know you are a kid it makes total sense.
 

Kato

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There is no case to be made to the Supreme Court. Everyone knows this.

I am looking forward to weeks at a time without hearing from the President. I am looking forward to the days where politics aren’t treated as a football game, where we wear hats and wave flags to support our “team”.

Can we go back to normalcy again, please?

That's sort of our hopes about you. Feel free to extend those weeks at a time. You can run along now, take your first sabbatical and lets see how we enjoy it!
 

Kato

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Is “coming together” a bad thing? We are all Americans. This isn’t Nebraska vs Oklahoma in a football game. The amount of fear stoking and lies spread on this board alone is troubling.

Elections run in cycles. For periods of time, the Democrats are in charge. Alternatively, there are periods of Republican leadership. It’s been going on this way for the history of this great country. Life continues on and we should all be cheering for collective success.

You never wanted to come together for the past four years, your party proved that at every scenario. The biggest was when Trump asked to come together at his State of the Union and Pelosi promptly tore up his speech on national television. Sorry, but go pump yourself on that! Your likes are something else!
 

Kato

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They didn't and took every opportunity presented to protest everything. They spent four years slandering everything Trump tried to do. every bill he submitted they tacked on the Green New Deal knowing he'd reject it. Maxine called for people to attacking republicans in public places, Kavanaugh was publicly humiliated, Dems constantly sided with criminals against the police to incite riots, Nancy tore up Trumps speech on national TV. Then there's the impeachment proceedings, Nancy calling for the 25th Amendment when Trump got diagnosed with Covid, threatening impeachment again if reelected, the whole covid debacle by the Dems, and the list goes on.
Dems aught to be ashamed of their lack of civility. Look at the mob outside the White House with the vulgarities spewed at Trump once the media gave the election to Biden. That's not how how we act as Americans. Why treat someone that way? Sorry, but the Dems deserve everything they have coming. The problem is, now will end up having to endure it also. The once great nation known as the USA.
 

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in your early 30s explains a lot. a lot of wiseness yet to be accumulated. The elders possess the most. You aren't leeching when taking social security and medicare. its your own money. and the attitude you express towards your planning is the same attitude most americans have. you are not superior to others by wanting to have a retirement not based on social security only. You are different because you may be paid enough to actually make that happen.

Plenty of wiseness left to accumulate, but based on his posts vs. yours, I'd put you anywhere from age 12 - 14. I'd also throw in that common sense is a nice quality, so don't give up on that either.

It's insane the complete miss by so many on who they are and what they represent. They see poor qualities in others when those are the exact qualities they possess. Reality has waived bye bye to way too many people. It doesn't bode well for the future, although the recent election cycle does provide some hope.
 
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I thought the rich didn't pay taxes?

40+% of just $1 over a lifetime is a lot. we don't all pay for each other. the top earners pay a giant percentage of the total rake while only using public services when literally forced to, while others, like you, I'm guessing, pay several thousand bucks/year and walk around like they own the place.

and I suspect you don't know where your tax dollars go, either, since exactly none of us do outside of theory. nobody gets a receipt.

by all means, continue to shove this heroic bs down the throats of your students or co-workers at the dmv. I'm sure they're enthralled by it.
The top earners can only earn what they do because they take advantage of public services, as they should. Even if you're a highly paid manager and not even a business owner, most of the work force you manage and take advantage of to produce revenue was educated by public institutions. Most of the products you ship are transported on public highways. If you have more of an IP company, the government offers protections to IP so your ideas don't immediately get stolen and used by competitors. Without the infrastructure and protections offered by public services, even the highest earners are going to be earning a heck of a lot less.

So although high earners may pay a higher proportional tax share than lower income earners, they also should pay more as they get a higher proportional benefit from public services to be able to earn that higher income.
 
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The top earners can only earn what they do because they take advantage of public services, as they should. Even if you're a highly paid manager and not even a business owner, most of the work force you manage and take advantage of to produce revenue was educated by public institutions. Most of the products you ship are transported on public highways. If you have more of an IP company, the government offers protections to IP so your ideas don't immediately get stolen and used by competitors. Without the infrastructure and protections offered by public services, even the highest earners are going to be earning a heck of a lot less.

So although high earners may pay a higher proportional tax share than lower income earners, they also should pay more as they get a higher proportional benefit from public services to be able to earn that higher income.
so, using this logic, there wouldn't have been any cave people who were better off than others?

if infrastructure/education/etc wasn't provided by the public, there would, extremely obviously, still be haves and have-nots. it's nature.

spare me the 'You didn't build that' speech. it's feel-good gruel of the every man, just like HIPPY's 'we all pay for each other' platitude.
 

oldjar07

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so, using this logic, there wouldn't have been any cave people who were better off than others?

if infrastructure/education/etc wasn't provided by the public, there would, extremely obviously, still be haves and have-nots. it's nature.

spare me the 'You didn't build that' speech. it's feel-good gruel of the every man, just like HIPPY's 'we all pay for each other' platitude.
Most prehistoric societies were egalitarian. And production and trading of material goods was extremely low so that no one could really amass any resources even if they wanted to. I don't know where you're going with this example.

Sure there are probably haves and have-nots in any society. But with the physical and financial infrastructure we have in modern society, it's incredibly easy for the haves to accumulate vastly more resources than they contribute to society. There's a difference between wealth creation and wealth accumulation. Wealth creation in modern society really isn't possible without social institutions and public infrastructure. This is needed to produce a well educated, law-abiding citizenry from which you can employ workers. Energy, transportation, and communications needs of businesses are largely made possible by public infrastructure. Tangible and intangible assets of businesses are protected by public institutions, including law enforcement and public courts. Heck the government even promotes anticompetitive practices through the granting of licenses and restrictive regulations that greatly benefits existing businesses.

Businesses and business owners should contribute their fair share for these protections and resources, which likely means they will pay a higher proportional tax rate than those who don't benefit as much from these resources.
 
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Most prehistoric societies were egalitarian. And production and trading of material goods was extremely low so that no one could really amass any resources even if they wanted to. I don't know where you're going with this example.

Sure there are probably haves and have-nots in any society. But with the physical and financial infrastructure we have in modern society, it's incredibly easy for the haves to accumulate vastly more resources than they contribute to society. There's a difference between wealth creation and wealth accumulation. Wealth creation in modern society really isn't possible without social institutions and public infrastructure. This is needed to produce a well educated, law-abiding citizenry from which you can employ workers. Energy, transportation, and communications needs of businesses are largely made possible by public infrastructure. Tangible and intangible assets of businesses are protected by public institutions, including law enforcement and public courts. Heck the government even promotes anticompetitive practices through the granting of licenses and restrictive regulations that greatly benefits existing businesses.

Businesses and business owners should contribute their fair share for these protections and resources, which likely means they will pay a higher proportional tax rate than those who don't benefit as much from these resources.
I understand what you're saying. typing more of it doesn't make it correct.

it's chicken/egg. if there weren't roads, the haves would build them, etc., etc.
 

catch54

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Yeah I don't get it. The left is angry about everything, all of the time. That level of rage has got to be exhausting. People from all over the world are killing themselves trying to get into our country, and the native borns are spoiled brats 2 hours after Christmas morning, pissing and moaning about every made up microaggression. We outta be a hell of a lot more grateful that we hit the lottery by being born in this country. 5 billion people on this planet subside on less than $2 per day. That's crappy, but there isn't 1 out of 1000 in America that would trade places with them, so let's all be miserable instead.

If you don't think we can and should do better, you are sadly mistaken. It is human nature to do better.

It all starts with the mistaken belief on the right that tax cuts are the answer to balanced budgets. By all means, go ahead and tell me of your spending cuts to justify such tax cuts. ???
 

catch54

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Biden is not a legitimate president. He is old, feeble of mind And body his entire family is corrupt. He only won the democratic nomination as the establishment did not want Bernie and rigged the game. The media has protected him the entire campaign. The only reason he got elected is that a good chunk of people emotionally hate trump and there is a pandemic

Not my president and there can be no peace

I did not want Bernie. His policies are way too far out and he would have lost to Trump. I am certainly not the establishment.

Biden is legit. He is saying all the right things. More importantly, he is already working on our national problems.
 

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I did not want Bernie. His policies are way too far out and he would have lost to Trump. I am certainly not the establishment.

Biden is legit. He is saying all the right things. More importantly, he is already working on our national problems.
Do you agree that he has early onset dementia?
 

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I did not want Bernie. His policies are way too far out and he would have lost to Trump. I am certainly not the establishment.

Biden is legit. He is saying all the right things. More importantly, he is already working on our national problems.

What are all the right things? What are the national problems and how is he working on them.
 

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Biden not at all.

What do call it when Trump acts like a teenage girl?

Trump is a moron that can't shut up but Biden has something wrong with him. I know old age gets to everyone, but my grandparents in their upper 80's are way more with it than Biden. There is an issue there people just don't want to admit it.
 

catch54

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Trump is a moron that can't shut up but Biden has something wrong with him. I know old age gets to everyone, but my grandparents in their upper 80's are way more with it than Biden. There is an issue there people just don't want to admit it.

I don't see anything wrong with him. Except that he had a stuttering problem when he much younger and now every once in a while he stutters. He speeches of late and his approach to getting to head start on the issues is spot on. My only complaint with him at the moment is apparently he is going to have an inaugural parade. I have been against that long before covid. I like the way the British do it. They get sworn in a head to 10 Downing Street to work.
 

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I really hope he has a solid cabinet and other advisors because I fear if he makes it to 2024 he will be pretty out of it. Be more of a figurehead and let the mind hive do the heavy lifting.
 
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