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MOHUSKER

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Speaking of not realizing what’s happening, the right did better with minorities this year than in 2016.

by all means, please continue to pound the racism drum, though. plenty of college educated suburban white women & white male college football recruiting message board posters who will lap that drivel up.

the left, meanwhile, with all its moral and ethical superiority, have done nothing but spit in the eye of every individual its claimed to care most about for decades.

hey, maybe these next 4 years doing the exact same thing again will work? we’ll certainly all pay to find out.

in the meantime, please everyone be careful out there. plenty of ways to get hurt with too much heroic backpatting. might be worst than covid, some experts are saying.

What are you basing that on? Biden is carrying Michigan based on historic turnout in Detroit and urban areas, Pennsylvania off the historic turnout in Philly and Pittsburgh, Georgia based on Atlanta. Arizona appears that the Hispanic vote has probably tipped that state.

The only sign I’ve seen that Trump made much of any inroads were with Latin populations in South Florida, who are heavily influenced by Cuban populations that agreed with the anti communism message driven by Trump. There were maybe some gains with black males also, but I haven’t seen definitive evidence of that.

Maybe you’re referring to some exit polls, which based on the failures of those same pollsters to properly model the 2020 voting efforts I don’t put a whole lot of stock in.
 
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What are you basing that on? Biden is carrying Michigan based on historic turnout in Detroit and urban areas, Pennsylvania off the historic turnout in Philly and Pittsburgh, Georgia based on Atlanta. Arizona appears that the Hispanic vote has probably tipped that state.

The only sign I’ve seen that Trump made much of any inroads were with Latin populations in South Florida, who are heavily influenced by Cuban populations that agreed with the anti communism message driven by Trump. There were maybe some gains with black males also, but I haven’t seen definitive evidence of that.

Maybe you’re referring to some exit polls, which based on the failures of those same pollsters to properly model the 2020 voting efforts I don’t put a whole lot of stock in.

There’s no question the right did better with minorities than in 2016 based on actual voter data and exit polls. That’s one article, but every outlet published one similar.

Your condescending, insulting, race baiting rhetoric is why.
 

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Not true. Poverty in US higher than in many other modern countries. Our social safety net also less generous. What’s this fantasy about taxes? My taxes went up during Trump. I’ve paid more the last two years than I ever have. Biden talking about raising taxes on those making more than 400k. Saying people have cell phones or a flat screen and thus can’t be poor might sound smart at the Coop, but it isn’t. You forgot to say you saw someone buying lobster with food stamps. Economy in ******* right now. First time in my life that Gov has given cities and states millions of dollars to help folks pay rent & utility bills. Look at the data. Whining about taxes and standard of living or just about any issue without having one iota of knowledge about the subject seems on point for many in this board.
Please post your last 10 years of taxes so we can verify. Because this sounds like a crock of shat. Either you're making way more than you used to or you were previously writing off a ton of State and Local Taxes and no longer get that break, which should have been a tax increase on the most wealthy - which is what all you elitist libs want. Or a combination of the two.

You're as disingenuous as our other liberal liars.
 

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I am really loving the Liberal media wanting a "kumbaya" moment with Conservatives now that it appears Biden will win the election. Seems like only a few short years ago that they lost their minds when Trump won and proceeded to put the country through a **** storm of media bias, Russia collusion and impeachment.

Now they want to be best buddies and "hug it out".

I am proud of what Trump accomplished in his four years - low unemployment, renegotiated trade deals, rocking economy (pre COVID), Middle East peace accord, First Step Act, etc.

I will certainly accept whatever outcome is to be, but I don't need any lectures from the media.
The liberal media will never be genuine in any of their reporting. Just watch how they will react when Trump is reelected.
 

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I wonder if all those republican celebrities that said they were going to leave the country if Biden won are going to follow through?
Just who were these Republican celebrities ? More leftist projection. Is it ever possible for a leftist to tell the truth. I bet they tell lies in their sleep.
 
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he owned a small business producing filmstrips before he became a mayor in 1981
Second senator sanders net worth is around 2 million dollars. Most of his income comes from book deals as well as speaking engagements along with his congressional salary. Mitch McConnell on the other hand comes in at $34 million and he’s only the ninth richest in the senate. But yes you are right sanders would qualify for the very same taxes he is proposing. Something I’m sure he is quite aware of which makes his stance that much more powerful.




I even sourced for you 😎 maybe actually do some research before you just spout crap you heard on Fox News and taking it as gospel
I think sanders is a largely genuine person. I also think if he believed in those taxes so much he’d be volunteering them today. The IRS accepts donations, and I’d be impressed by a person in govt actually taking action instead of endlessly bloviating for once.
 

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There’s no question the right did better with minorities than in 2016 based on actual voter data and exit polls. That’s one article, but every outlet published one similar.

Your condescending, insulting, race baiting rhetoric is why.

Let’s say minority vote jumped 20%, from 50 million to 60 million. If Trump won 10% of that in 2016, he got 5 million and lost the minority vote by 40 million votes. If he jumped to 15% in 2020 he won 9 million votes, but had 51 million that were blue, meaning he lost by 42 million votes. So what did he really gain other than more time to golf, tweet conspiracy theories and try to divide the country more?

Having minorities vote for you doesn’t mean you aren’t being racially divisive. Post election attacks on predominantly black cities as corrupt is just the latest in a long line of dog whistles by Trump. America rejected Trump by majority in 2016, and rejected him and his kind far more strongly in 2020.
 

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Can you provide an example of healthcare being denied to millions?
Obviously just my opinion, but the right and left look to different things to support the notion that America is a great country. Take healthcare, for example. Conservatives think it is a great thing that anyone can work to achieve high quality healthcare, which absolutely exists in this country. Fair enough. As an American liberal, I think a nation with the resources we possess can do better to make healthcare realistically accessible to all of its citizens. I believe healthcare is a human right. You want the best ideas to win, fine, let them win out. At some point in the future, the idea of universal healthcare will win out.
 

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Yeah I don't get it. The left is angry about everything, all of the time. That level of rage has got to be exhausting. People from all over the world are killing themselves trying to get into our country, and the native borns are spoiled brats 2 hours after Christmas morning, pissing and moaning about every made up microaggression. We outta be a hell of a lot more grateful that we hit the lottery by being born in this country. 5 billion people on this planet subside on less than $2 per day. That's crappy, but there isn't 1 out of 1000 in America that would trade places with them, so let's all be miserable instead.
i dont know any democrats who feel that way. and i know a lot of democrats. you might describing .0001 percent of people. just like dems describe the entire republican party as white supremacists which is wrong too.
 
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Let’s say minority vote jumped 20%, from 50 million to 60 million. If Trump won 10% of that in 2016, he got 5 million and lost the minority vote by 40 million votes. If he jumped to 15% in 2020 he won 9 million votes, but had 51 million that were blue, meaning he lost by 42 million votes. So what did he really gain other than more time to golf, tweet conspiracy theories and try to divide the country more?

Having minorities vote for you doesn’t mean you aren’t being racially divisive. Post election attacks on predominantly black cities as corrupt is just the latest in a long line of dog whistles by Trump. America rejected Trump by majority in 2016, and rejected him and his kind far more strongly in 2020.
The only people trying to divide the country are holier than thou white folks who for some reason believe minorities need their help.

It’s the most insulting rhetoric going and should’ve stopped yesterday. Equating conservative to racist is insane. A growing percentage of the minority vote agree.

There’s never been a better time to actually be a racist now that mindless lemmings have made the term meaningless. Great job.
 
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Obviously just my opinion, but the right and left look to different things to support the notion that America is a great country. Take healthcare, for example. Conservatives think it is a great thing that anyone can work to achieve high quality healthcare, which absolutely exists in this country. Fair enough. As an American liberal, I think a nation with the resources we possess can do better to make healthcare realistically accessible to all of its citizens. I believe healthcare is a human right. You want the best ideas to win, fine, let them win out. At some point in the future, the idea of universal healthcare will win out.
almost everyone in the healthcare industry itself knows anything that looks similar to the current healthcare environment is not sustainable. employers cannot thrive with the costs in the current environment. healthcare experts know it is impossible to solve the problem without giving something up. something has to give. what many other industrialized countries have decided is to go to something that looks like socialized medicine. and in most situations the citizens of those countries are happier with their healthcare than american citizens are. and the companies based in those countries are able to compete better as a result of lower healthcare costs.
 

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almost everyone in the healthcare industry itself knows anything that looks similar to the current healthcare environment is not sustainable. employers cannot thrive with the costs in the current environment. healthcare experts know it is impossible to solve the problem without giving something up. something has to give. what many other industrialized countries have decided is to go to something that looks like socialized medicine. and in most situations the citizens of those countries are happier with their healthcare than american citizens are. and the companies based in those countries are able to compete better as a result of lower healthcare costs.
former republican senator points out that trump did better than hillary in many of the big cities that trump is claiming fraud in. if there was widespread fraud it appears to have helped trump
 

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Obviously you're wrong. Sure, many people agree with you, but it isn't most, or a mythical silent majority. If we are to go by one metric, the popular vote, a majority of people disagree with your assessment. Trump is not a good person. There are just so many things he's said and done over the course of his lifetime to believe otherwise. Ultimately, he may lose by a slim margin, but looks are deceiving. He'll lose the popular vote by somewhere between 4 and 5 million votes. That ain't slim. And if Biden does win, assuming he holds Penn., Ga., and Arizona, the electoral margin will be similar to what Trump had in 2016, which he declared to be the greatest victory ever. If Biden said his win was the most impressive ever, Republicans would lose their minds. Why didn't it bother them when Trump said it? I know why, because y'all enjoyed the anger it sparked in liberals. Think about what that says of conservatives who claim the high ground on morality and decency.

It isn't just liberals in the US who look at Trump with scorn. He is loathed across much of the world. His supporters find his demagoguery risible, arguing "he didn't mean the things he said". Maybe he doesn't mean what he says, but if that's true why should we believe anything he says? Observe his claims of election fraud. No law enforcement agency, and very few Republicans are backing him up, because there is no evidence to support his tale of conspiracy. There is no way you can logically defend chants of "count the vote" in Arizona for no other reason than Trump might still win the state, while at the same time defending those chanting "stop the vote" in Pennsylvania. In a representative democracy this is shocking behavior.

I absolutely loathe his willful use of disinformation to fleece the public. And I can't stomach the embrace of false equivalency to compare Trump to all other politicians. You say he's no worse than any other politician, despite facts that prove otherwise. Not alternative facts, just facts. Organizations that aren't the media have been keeping a running tally and there has never been anything like him in our country. But that's the problem we find ourselves in as a nation. We can't even agree on the facts anymore. Ultimately, these tit for tat conversations accomplish nothing.

Good lord, read it again. Obviously I'm wrong? Wrong about what exactly? You extracted all sorts of "facts" out of my post. You are as hung up as anyone on Trump and it would probably be best for you if you got over it. What you said only validates my point. Trump has been public enemy #1 for almost all of the media even before he took office. There has never been an assault like this by the media on a President, not even close. He has been the most misogynistic, xenophobic, white-supremacists, Russian collusion terrible awful person in all of history. That is what we've heard for 4 years. And yet exit polling shows that a larger % of minorities voted for him than in 2016. We were told that he was going to lose by 7 - 10 points. Not even close. We were told that anyone who supported Trump is a low-down dirty scoundrel, yet Republicans look like they are going to hold the Senate and picked up a bunch of seats in the House.

Biden is a complete farce, and is a career politician. Harris is a, well, Harris, which is about the worst thing one can be. You think Trump is worse than them? Great, I don't care, if it makes you and yours feel better, terrific. If Trump loses, Trump loses, I don't give a crap. But, despite the non-stop barrage against him and republican party by the media, making every effort to scandalize and smear anyone and everyone, the victory on election night went to the red team. The blue "woke" messaging did not resonate with the general public, and I thank God for that. So, "yes," liberals are in a bind. Just google a little bit on it, there is a lot of panic. There is hope for this Country yet.
 

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The only people trying to divide the country are holier than thou white folks who for some reason believe minorities need their help.

It’s the most insulting rhetoric going and should’ve stopped yesterday. Equating conservative to racist is insane. A growing percentage of the minority vote agree.

There’s never been a better time to actually be a racist now that mindless lemmings have made the term meaningless. Great job.

I’m confused, you propose that Trump has made outreach and inroads to minority voters, and indeed he has proposed a lot of $ towards black communities and campaigned as the President that can help the black community.

So you are admitting Trump is holier than thou, and in turn dividing the country in the same breath that you are saying he isn’t?
 

Capdanjou

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The only people trying to divide the country are holier than thou white folks who for some reason believe minorities need their help.

It’s the most insulting rhetoric going and should’ve stopped yesterday. Equating conservative to racist is insane. A growing percentage of the minority vote agree.
Good lord, read it again. Obviously I'm wrong? Wrong about what exactly? You extracted all sorts of "facts" out of my post. You are as hung up as anyone on Trump and it would probably be best for you if you got over it. What you said only validates my point. Trump has been public enemy #1 for almost all of the media even before he took office. There has never been an assault like this by the media on a President, not even close. He has been the most misogynistic, xenophobic, white-supremacists, Russian collusion terrible awful person in all of history. That is what we've heard for 4 years. And yet exit polling shows that a larger % of minorities voted for him than in 2016. We were told that he was going to lose by 7 - 10 points. Not even close. We were told that anyone who supported Trump is a low-down dirty scoundrel, yet Republicans look like they are going to hold the Senate and picked up a bunch of seats in the House.

Biden is a complete farce, and is a career politician. Harris is a, well, Harris, which is about the worst thing one can be. You think Trump is worse than them? Great, I don't care, if it makes you and yours feel better, terrific. If Trump loses, Trump loses, I don't give a crap. But, despite the non-stop barrage against him and republican party by the media, making every effort to scandalize and smear anyone and everyone, the victory on election night went to the red team. The blue "woke" messaging did not resonate with the general public, and I thank God for that. So, "yes," liberals are in a bind. Just google a little bit on it, there is a lot of panic. There is hope for this Country yet.
"(Trump) has been the most misogynistic, xenophobic, white-supremacists, Russian collusion terrible awful person in all of history."
True!
Sadly you have bent over, or gotten down on your knees, to appease his every whim. Pathetic.
"...exit polling shows that a larger % of minorities voted for him than in 2016."
Seems true.
"We were told that he was going to lose by 7 - 10 points."
If the states where Biden is leading hold it'll be a significant electoral win. And the popular vote isn't even close. At the end of the day, after the votes were counted, Trump was never going to win.
"We were told that anyone who supported Trump is a low-down dirty scoundrel"
Scoundrel? Nice word. Some liberals have lost their minds, to be sure.
"Republicans look like they are going to hold the Senate and picked up a bunch of seats in the House."
Not so fast on the senate. We'll see, but no matter how it falls, it's incredibly close. I haven't checked the house, sorry to say.
Bottom line, it looks like maybe more conservatives than you want to admit voted a Democrat for president, and Republicans for senate and the house.
Thankfully the national embarrassment is nearly over!!!!!
 

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I’m confused, you propose that Trump has made outreach and inroads to minority voters, and indeed he has proposed a lot of $ towards black communities and campaigned as the President that can help the black community.

So you are admitting Trump is holier than thou, and in turn dividing the country in the same breath that you are saying he isn’t?
Every moment of every day is hard for you, isn't it.
 

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"(Trump) has been the most misogynistic, xenophobic, white-supremacists, Russian collusion terrible awful person in all of history."
True!
Sadly you have bent over, or gotten down on your knees, to appease his every whim. Pathetic.
"...exit polling shows that a larger % of minorities voted for him than in 2016."
Seems true.
"We were told that he was going to lose by 7 - 10 points."
If the states where Biden is leading hold it'll be a significant electoral win. And the popular vote isn't even close. At the end of the day, after the votes were counted, Trump was never going to win.
"We were told that anyone who supported Trump is a low-down dirty scoundrel"
Scoundrel? Nice word. Some liberals have lost their minds, to be sure.
"Republicans look like they are going to hold the Senate and picked up a bunch of seats in the House."
Not so fast on the senate. We'll see, but no matter how it falls, it's incredibly close. I haven't checked the house, sorry to say.
Bottom line, it looks like maybe more conservatives than you want to admit voted a Democrat for president, and Republicans for senate and the house.
Thankfully the national embarrassment is nearly over!!!!!
What is the source of all of your copy and paste jobs?. Does the squad just email them directly to you? I can't get two sentences into any one of your posts without the gag reflex kicking in
 
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I’m confused, you propose that Trump has made outreach and inroads to minority voters, and indeed he has proposed a lot of $ towards black communities and campaigned as the President that can help the black community.

So you are admitting Trump is holier than thou, and in turn dividing the country in the same breath that you are saying he isn’t?
One person isn’t capable of doing anything. Those chicken littles reacting to his every word are the ones culpable. They are white folks on both sides. A growing percentage of minorities voted conservative this year than in 2016. Are they joining the ranks of the racists? Or do they not want your race baiting, condescending, insulting bs shoved down their throats any more?

Tough call.
 

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"(Trump) has been the most misogynistic, xenophobic, white-supremacists, Russian collusion terrible awful person in all of history."
True!
Sadly you have bent over, or gotten down on your knees, to appease his every whim. Pathetic.
"...exit polling shows that a larger % of minorities voted for him than in 2016."
Seems true.
"We were told that he was going to lose by 7 - 10 points."
If the states where Biden is leading hold it'll be a significant electoral win. And the popular vote isn't even close. At the end of the day, after the votes were counted, Trump was never going to win.
"We were told that anyone who supported Trump is a low-down dirty scoundrel"
Scoundrel? Nice word. Some liberals have lost their minds, to be sure.
"Republicans look like they are going to hold the Senate and picked up a bunch of seats in the House."
Not so fast on the senate. We'll see, but no matter how it falls, it's incredibly close. I haven't checked the house, sorry to say.
Bottom line, it looks like maybe more conservatives than you want to admit voted a Democrat for president, and Republicans for senate and the house.
Thankfully the national embarrassment is nearly over!!!!!

Why am I bending over or getting on my knees? How have I appeased his every whim? Because the red team won, that's how you respond? I'm just dealing in facts, just like you wanted, but you can't seem to deal with it. You'd best learn to deal, your messaging and identify politics is wearing thin, so it may be time to develop a new plan for your party.
 

Capdanjou

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What is the source of all of your copy and paste jobs?. Does the squad just email them directly to you? I can't get two sentences into any one of your posts without the gag reflex kicking in
I imagine you choke on lots of things. The copy and paste is from Lincoln100.
 

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Good lord, read it again. Obviously I'm wrong? Wrong about what exactly? You extracted all sorts of "facts" out of my post. You are as hung up as anyone on Trump and it would probably be best for you if you got over it. What you said only validates my point. Trump has been public enemy #1 for almost all of the media even before he took office. There has never been an assault like this by the media on a President, not even close. He has been the most misogynistic, xenophobic, white-supremacists, Russian collusion terrible awful person in all of history. That is what we've heard for 4 years. And yet exit polling shows that a larger % of minorities voted for him than in 2016. We were told that he was going to lose by 7 - 10 points. Not even close. We were told that anyone who supported Trump is a low-down dirty scoundrel, yet Republicans look like they are going to hold the Senate and picked up a bunch of seats in the House.

Biden is a complete farce, and is a career politician. Harris is a, well, Harris, which is about the worst thing one can be. You think Trump is worse than them? Great, I don't care, if it makes you and yours feel better, terrific. If Trump loses, Trump loses, I don't give a crap. But, despite the non-stop barrage against him and republican party by the media, making every effort to scandalize and smear anyone and everyone, the victory on election night went to the red team. The blue "woke" messaging did not resonate with the general public, and I thank God for that. So, "yes," liberals are in a bind. Just google a little bit on it, there is a lot of panic. There is hope for this Country yet.

So far off...

Hilary won the popular vote by 2.1% or slightly under 3 million votes. Biden currently holds nearly a 3% lead and over a 4 million vote advantage and climbing. Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia all appear as though they will flip.

Trump is polling behind his house counterparts by 1.5% across the country which would have flipped those 5 states above and re-elected Trump.

Trumpism lost in 2020, how does that make you feel?
 

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Why am I bending over or getting on my knees? How have I appeased his every whim? Because the red team won, that's how you respond? I'm just dealing in facts, just like you wanted, but you can't seem to deal with it. You'd best learn to deal, your messaging and identify politics is wearing thin, so it may be time to develop a new plan for your party.
Yes, bending and kneeling. You know that he is garbage, and you defend him to the last. He is indefensible. Alas, we can argue over Trumpism at some other time. Suffice it to say, he is going to lose. Let me enjoy the moment.
 
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So far off...

Hilary won the popular vote by 2.1% or slightly under 3 million votes. Biden currently holds nearly a 3% lead and over a 4 million vote advantage and climbing. Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia all appear as though they will flip.

Trump is polling behind his house counterparts by 1.5% across the country which would have flipped those 5 states above and re-elected Trump.

Trumpism lost in 2020, how does that make you feel?
This post is hilarious. Feelings won at the pres level, logic won down ballot. It’s a wash.

Feelings are for pre-teen girls. And apparently now white male adults 😂😂😂
 
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Yes, bending and kneeling. You know that he is garbage, and you defend him to the last. He is indefensible. Alas, we can argue over Trumpism at some other time. Suffice it to say, he is going to lose. Let me enjoy the moment.
Almost kickoff! Which means we won’t see you posting for ~3.5 hours.
 

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This post is hilarious. Feelings won at the pres level, logic won down ballot. It’s a wash.

Feelings are for pre-teen girls. And apparently now white male adults 😂😂😂

Sure seems like you have a lot of feelings for someone claiming they are for teenage girls.
 

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So far off...

Hilary won the popular vote by 2.1% or slightly under 3 million votes. Biden currently holds nearly a 3% lead and over a 4 million vote advantage and climbing. Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia all appear as though they will flip.

Trump is polling behind his house counterparts by 1.5% across the country which would have flipped those 5 states above and re-elected Trump.

Trumpism lost in 2020, how does that make you feel?

Uh huh. It's okay that you can't follow along. Which obsession are your going to take up when Trump isn't President anymore? Or will you just keep obsessing?
 

Lincoln100

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Yes, bending and kneeling. You know that he is garbage, and you defend him to the last. He is indefensible. Alas, we can argue over Trumpism at some other time. Suffice it to say, he is going to lose. Let me enjoy the moment.

How am I defending him? You are confused.
 

MOHUSKER

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Uh huh. It's okay that you can't follow along. Which obsession are your going to take up when Trump isn't President anymore? Or will you just keep obsessing?

It is finished...called. Will Trump take the L with dignity or will he continue to be the petulant child?
 

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You two have a lot in common.

Speaking of having things in common...


 

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If President Trump doesn't get over 500 electoral votes, he will come damn close to it. I've been calling it for over a month now.

Associated Press is gonna look sooooooo foolish for making the wrong call. A veritable Dewey Defeats Truman moment
 
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