Covid 5.0

[NorthwoodHusker]

Why do you want to call it that? What is your intention?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...early-500-racist-acts-over-last-week-n1169821

Convention, historical usage etc.
I don't want to call it that, I just prefer not to change ,and abhor the reasoning for change.
I cannot allow a racist effect our narratives. Screw them. Its what we have always done, and a few racists ,as there will always be in society,shouldnt form our society, but they should be made to conform to ours.

If they use wuhan in a racist way, wink at each other, there's no stopping that, so why should I allow them to laugh at us for changing our traditions?
I would think anyone would see this, and not allow this to happen, and certainly not be for those racists to change our traditions?

 

[MOHUSKER]

Yeah the Republicans tied in bail out money to industries that will fail and lay off millions of workers if they don't do something to help them..... I didn't see any Republicans caught on audio saying "this is our chance to advance our agenda" like the Democrats were.

Anyone pretending either side is clean and acting in absolute good faith is disingenuous at best. Hell, we are all in here pushing our own views also. Me included!

 

[mwulf]

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Convention, historical usage etc.
I don't want to call it that, I just prefer not to change ,and abhor the reasoning for change.
I cannot allow a racist effect our narratives. Screw them. Its what we have always done, and a few racists ,as there will always be in society,shouldnt form our society, but they should be made to conform to ours.

If they use wuhan in a racist way, wink at each other, there's no stopping that, so why should I allow them to laugh at us for changing our traditions?
I would think anyone would see this, and not allow this to happen, and certainly not be for those racists to change our traditions?

By the way, how does this stop racism? Thinking wrong will always happen. You can't narrate nor legislate your way to a moral state, people are going to be people

 

[MOHUSKER]

Convention, historical usage etc.
I don't want to call it that, I just prefer not to change ,and abhor the reasoning for change.
I cannot allow a racist effect our narratives. Screw them. Its what we have always done, and a few racists ,as there will always be in society,shouldnt form our society, but they should be made to conform to ours.

If they use wuhan in a racist way, wink at each other, there's no stopping that, so why should I allow them to laugh at us for changing our traditions?
I would think anyone would see this, and not allow this to happen, and certainly not be for those racists to change our traditions?

Our traditions have included many awful things, there are some things worth fighting for, I don’t see how anyone can claim this is one of them.

They’re talking about looking at an outbreak of Influenza/Pneumonia like deaths in the Lombardy region of Italy now from last year that may indicate this was spreading last year. Chinese scientists are scrambling to claim it means this originated in Italy, I don’t think the science supports that theory yet, but I actually hope it started last year and went unnoticed, that means the spread started earlier and was undetected, which gives hope that maybe, just maybe there is more immunity out there than we think.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...arlier-emergence-of-coronavirus-idUSKBN21D2IG

 

[mwulf]

Convention, historical usage etc.
I don't want to call it that, I just prefer not to change ,and abhor the reasoning for change.
I cannot allow a racist effect our narratives. Screw them. Its what we have always done, and a few racists ,as there will always be in society,shouldnt form our society, but they should be made to conform to ours.

If they use wuhan in a racist way, wink at each other, there's no stopping that, so why should I allow them to laugh at us for changing our traditions?
I would think anyone would see this, and not allow this to happen, and certainly not be for those racists to change our traditions?

This makes a lot of sense I think the biggest difference is that we have someone in the White House who has been documented since the early 70s as being racist. Stephen Miller is also a huge influence when it comes to messaging. This unchecked jackassery gives quite a few people that maybe would have kept their hate to themselves a signal to fire away with hate speech

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

I hope she can justify those needs? Words mean nothing in politics.
She cheapens her own words by not sharing information about her state, its projections, its current supplies etc.
She should prove it. We need to demand more from our leaders,red or blue. I can't see how all these other governors are getting things done, and along,and thankful etc.
If she claims rifies, then the numbers prove her needs then theyd best be met.

Without that, it could just be politics,as she has added no skin of her own in this,only words.

 

[MOHUSKER]

By the way, how does this stop racism? Thinking wrong will always happen. You can't narrate nor legislate your way to a moral state, people are going to be people

We can social distance from them, call it when we see it and work to make each day a little better than the last.

 

[MOHUSKER]

Maybe both sides could stop the political posturing, have a conversation and move forward? Crazy talk!

 

[Hoosker Du]

I really only see you making these unfounded claims.

All my posts and responses to you are in 1 or 2 threads. It’s not hard at all to prove your point. And you'd be quick to do it if indeed you were able. Like me with your psychotic post suggesting the military kill dissenters who dare break curfew as part of your ‘plan’.

What a lazy excuse. Credibility envy is quite a thing.

Misinformation and lying. That's a helluva combination you got going there, chump. Oh, not to mention calling out pandemic models developed by experts in the field as inaccurate numbers. You're just full of nothing but garbage.

And how the hell did you get seated at the adult table again?? You were at the kids' table for a good reason. Now get back over there.

 

[RaisingArizona]

Michigan is an important state for Trump in 2020. He ought to be careful from an electoral college perspective.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

Our traditions have included many awful things, there are some things worth fighting for, I don’t see how anyone can claim this is one of them.

They’re talking about looking at an outbreak of Influenza/Pneumonia like deaths in the Lombardy region of Italy now from last year that may indicate this was spreading last year. Chinese scientists are scrambling to claim it means this originated in Italy, I don’t think the science supports that theory yet, but I actually hope it started last year and went unnoticed, that means the spread started earlier and was undetected, which gives hope that maybe, just maybe there is more immunity out there than we think.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...arlier-emergence-of-coronavirus-idUSKBN21D2IG

You're making assumptions.
First, assuming a tradition is racist is just wrong, anymore than someone may say they're godly.

However, things just didn't start being racist, there have always been racists using traditions in perverted ways.
I think those racists want you to change them, exert their power over you, they laugh at you.
This ticks me off when they do, they have no respect for you, for what you think is right, but you and I arent the racists here, the only difference between you and I?
I wont let them steal our traditions, by changing them, or allowing in any way to speak for me,or change my ways.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

We can social distance from them, call it when we see it and work to make each day a little better than the last.

I say call them out, show them how wrong they are. Working together is the way, I understand that, but if changing divides us, they win.
I dont care what you want to call it, and I wont accuse others for using tact when you do so.
But, dont lump us like that either, or again, they win.
We keep chasing tail, and keep destroying our traditions,we lose who we are, just ask the natives,we are no different.
By allowing these changes is pitting a group of people, and if done politically,from a power position, it is much like being a stranger in your own land, much like the natives found themselves.

Meanwhile,it does othing to really stop racism.

 

[MOHUSKER]

I say call them out, show them how wrong they are. Working together is the way, I understand that, but if changing divides us, they win.
I dont care what you want to call it, and I wont accuse others for using tact when you do so.
But, dont lump us like that either, or again, they win.
We keep chasing tail, and keep destroying our traditions,we lose who we are, just ask the natives,we are no different.
By allowing these changes is pitting a group of people, and if done politically,from a power position, it is much like being a stranger in your own land, much like the natives found themselves.

Meanwhile,it does othing to really stop racism.

We will have to agree to disagree, I’ve heard the same arguments prop up “ism’s” for too long. “It’s just the way I was raised” “I’ve always done it that way” “It doesn’t hurt anyone, who cares”.

Our “traditions” lead to people waiving offensive flags and hatred. “I’m not a racist/sexist or whatever, I’m just honoring the past” Which just happens to be steeped in those very things. We can be better, we should be better.

 

[red scowl]

The cdc thing was restructured into a greater overall heading of other groups,which,by the way, are all working in unison as designed to right now. Smart move, quicker overall responses between agencies now.

If people dont mind paying two or three gold dugats to keep things fresh, then, let it happen, otherwise, war is the proper term for our current situation. In war, things happen you don't expect and arent prepared for.
Those other things? Those are known as skirmishes, somehow, this doesn't remind me of a skirmish.

Do you smoke rocks? I feel like I have to translate your post to arrive at a point. You seem like an ambivalent fella.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

Misinformation and lying. That's a helluva combination you got going there, chump. Oh, not to mention calling out pandemic models developed by experts in the field as inaccurate numbers. You're just full of nothing but garbage.

And how the hell did you get seated at the adult table again?? You were at the kids' table for a good reason. Now get back over there.

Those same experts are a good lesson in actual backtracking, as we’ve seen.

Misinformation? I’ll refer any who care to your campaign against me.

Post proof or gtfo with your pathetic antics. Sorry your feelings got in the way of what actually took place.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Those same experts are a good lesson in actual backtracking, as we’ve seen.

Misinformation? I’ll refer any who care to your campaign against me.

Post proof or gtfo with your pathetic antics. Sorry your feelings got in the way of what actually took place.

Here ya go. This is YOUR post..

"I'm saying, quite clearly, that personal responsibility is all that's needed. not Martial Law, which you seem to be begging for.

Individuals doing what's best for themselves is best for the collective. a tale as old as time.

nobody cares less about you or the community than our bloated, inept government."

"Individuals doing what's best for themselves" is what has taken us to #1 In the World for Total Cases and New Cases of Covid-19. Still think individuals doing what's best for themselves is working, Stupid F*cker!!

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

We will have to agree to disagree, I’ve heard the same arguments prop up “ism’s” for too long. “It’s just the way I was raised” “I’ve always done it that way” “It doesn’t hurt anyone, who cares”.

Our “traditions” lead to people waiving offensive flags and hatred. “I’m not a racist/sexist or whatever, I’m just honoring the past” Which just happens to be steeped in those very things. We can be better, we should be better.

Our new traditions, yours, will soon be overtaken by isms too, what then? Change them again?
I don't like chasing my tail.

 

[MOHUSKER]

Our new traditions, yours, will soon be overtaken by isms too, what then? Change them again?
I don't like chasing my tail.

Yes, we should be quick to admit and correct our mistakes.

I wanted to ask about this quote from you...”it is much like being a stranger in your own land, much like the natives found themselves”

I have heard similar concerns from others in the political arena along the lines of, what happens when “we” become the minority? Which makes me chuckle, because it’s basically admitting minorities, or in your parlance “strangers” are treated poorly by the majority.

 

[NorthwoodHusker]

People, those isms you speak of, are hiding behind covid19 too. You can't legislate morality.
If those old traditionalists agree on something, it is this.
But the elements behind changing such old traditions only talk of the bad, as if it doesn't exist today. Thats a naïveté I will never believe, and change for change sake, which is ultimately what is left, is a fools venture.

Unless you can prove those isms aren't hiding behind say covid, or, that doing this eliminates those isms, it loses its value as to why.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

Here ya go. This is YOUR post..

"I'm saying, quite clearly, that personal responsibility is all that's needed. not Martial Law, which you seem to be begging for.

Individuals doing what's best for themselves is best for the collective. a tale as old as time.

nobody cares less about you or the community than our bloated, inept government."

"Individuals doing what's best for themselves" is what has taken us to #1 In the World for Total Cases and New Cases of Covid-19. Still think individuals doing what's best for themselves is working, Stupid F*cker!!

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Not exactly a point-prover, is it? Last I checked, individuals don’t want to be afflicted with any sickness, so they should act selfishly and avoid it.

I just posted the same thing tonight. Thanks for showing my consistency.

Log off before you embarrass yourself further. Or do you need the govt to do it for you, since you clearly have no idea what’s best for you?

 

[Hoosker Du]

@John_J_Rambo Here's more of your brilliance.."

"When will you get it through your quarantine-softened skull that people free to choose what’s best for them and their families can accomplish the same thing without needless deaths due to martial law?"

With 86,000+ cases in the U.S. and 17,000+ New Cases today alone (Both tops in the world) your moronic idea of allowing Americans to actually accept some responsibility is falling flat on its face. Exactly how I knew it would. Have you always been his naive?

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

@John_J_Rambo Here's more of your brilliance.."

"When will you get it through your quarantine-softened skull that people free to choose what’s best for them and their families can accomplish the same thing without needless deaths due to martial law?"

With 86,000+ cases in the U.S. and 17,000+ New Cases today alone (Both tops in the world) your moronic idea of allowing Americans to actually accept some responsibility is falling flat on its face. Exactly how I knew it would. Have you always been his naive?

Please keep going, this is fantastic.

Still waiting on proof I told anyone to ignore quarantine, made flu comparisons or backtracked on literally anything, Dr Credible.

How embarrassing.

 

[Solana Beach Husker]

Yeah the Republicans tied in bail out money to industries that will fail and lay off millions of workers if they don't do something to help them..... I didn't see any Republicans caught on audio saying "this is our chance to advance our agenda" like the Democrats were.

First of let's remember that most of us are relatively moderate politically. Most democrats respect republicans like George H. Bush who was deeply introspective man, highly intelligent, a great American who was also fiscally and socially conservative. Most democrats will acknowledge that there are merits to being socially and fiscally conservative. Most republicans will acknowledge that there is also corporate corruption, that the environment is vital to our existence, and that there are swaths of people in our country who begin life at a disadvantage for one reason or another. You then prioritize these in your life depending on region or reality but they are all important to our existence. Extremists tend to have high levels of ignorance financially, scientifically, socially, historically and our media...not only mainstream but on the airwaves and youtube manipulates these people with ease because they are ones worth manipulating. When I turn into MSNBC I watch for a few minutes and go..."that is a little over the top" and leave...and many moderates do the same with fox news. People say that there is a great divide but I don't necessarily see it that way. Moderates on both sides can easily compromise when needed but there are extremists who do not care about outcomes but how their politics affect their ego. Brings me back to the time McCain said Obama was a good man and HIS supporters booed him, 10 days before the election. Some people are not about what is right or wrong they just want to feel the rush of being important.

 

[Hoosker Du]

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Not exactly a point-prover, is it?

Log off before you embarrass yourself further. Or do you need the govt to do it for you, since you clearly have no idea what’s best for you?

Like I said days ago, I've got some beautiful beachfront property in Wichita to sell you, ignoramus.

Whenever you would like to go ahead and admit you were wrong about (I can barely type this without laughing how stupid it sounds) "Liberty vs Compliance," I'm willing to take your admission anytime you're ready. I'll wait..

 

[Hoosker Du]

Please keep going, this is fantastic.

It's not fantastic at all. It's sad. It shows how incredibly naive and unrealistic you are. Did you have to wear a protective helmet well into your 30s too.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

It's not fantastic at all. It's sad. It shows how incredibly naive and unrealistic you are. Did you have to wear a protective helmet well into your 30s too.

I see exactly zero proof of your claims of backtracking. I stand by every single quote you posted. Again, not one instance of reversing course, as you claim.

Are you finished? Do you need your local representative to come wipe your nose after that little tirade?

Your feelings got in the way of what actually happened.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Please keep going, this is fantastic.

Still waiting on proof I told anyone to ignore quarantine, made flu comparisons or backtracked on literally anything, Dr Credible.

How embarrassing.

Your backtracking is that you knew you ended up looking foolish by saying that people could be responsible and quarantine themselves...and you've slowly changed your ridiculous rhetoric ever since.

You knew you were wrong, and have been backpedaling ever since. Not to mentioning lying that I said people should be shot. I said if they don't want to follow a mandatory quarantine and riot as a result, and potentially get shot, that's their fault.

Edit - 17,000+ New Cases in the U.S. today. Looks like you really nailed personal responsibility working. Fool.

 

[mwulf]

First of let's remember that most of us are relatively moderate politically. Most democrats respect republicans like George H. Bush who was deeply introspective man, highly intelligent, a great American who was also fiscally and socially conservative. Most democrats will acknowledge that there are merits to being socially and fiscally conservative. Most republicans will acknowledge that there is also corporate corruption, that the environment is vital to our existence, and that there are swaths of people in our country who begin life at a disadvantage for one reason or another. You then prioritize these in your life depending on region or reality but they are all important to our existence. Extremists tend to have high levels of ignorance financially, scientifically, socially, historically and our media...not only mainstream but on the airwaves and youtube manipulates these people with ease because they are ones worth manipulating. When I turn into MSNBC I watch for a few minutes and go..."that is a little over the top" and leave...and many moderates do the same with fox news. People say that there is a great divide but I don't necessarily see it that way. Moderates on both sides can easily compromise when needed but there are extremists who do not care about outcomes but how their politics affect their ego. Brings me back to the time McCain said Obama was a good man and HIS supporters booed him, 10 days before the election. Some people are not about what is right or wrong they just want to feel the rush of being important.

This is well said. I think this clip illustrates there used to be decency or at least an attempt at decency in politics.

 

[John_J_Rambo_rivals315142]

Your backtracking is that you knew you ended up looking foolish by saying that people could be responsible and quarantine themselves...and you've slowly changed your ridiculous rhetoric ever since.

You knew you were wrong, and have been backpedaling ever since. Not to mentioning lying that I said people should be shot. I said if they don't want to follow a mandatory quarantine and riot as a result, and potentially get shot, that's their fault.

17,000+ New Cases in the U.S. today. Looks like you really mailed personal responsibility working. Fool.

frankly, if people don't feel like they need to be responsible to the rest of humanity by not spreading this virus, then they deserve to be shot. The earlier the better.

Now who’s backtracking? That’s a direct quote, from you. Pretty disturbing if you ask me.

Oh, and those numbers you’re so emotional about? The millions of projected deaths? They’re dwindling. Rapidly. And I don’t see military in the streets using deadly force to ensure it. Do you?

Seems to me faith in our fellow man and people doing what they feel is right for themselves and their families is working quite well for the community.

What a narcissist.

 

[oldjar07]

Yeah the Republicans tied in bail out money to industries that will fail and lay off millions of workers if they don't do something to help them..... I didn't see any Republicans caught on audio saying "this is our chance to advance our agenda" like the Democrats were.

If you believe that, I have ocean front property in Omaha I'd like to sell you. I'm not against corporate bailouts, but the truth is there is very little oversight on where that money is going. In some sense that's a good thing because companies in need who ordinarily wouldn't get it will. But if you believe it's only going to companies in need or companies at risk of failing, I highly doubt that's going to happen.

 

[GBRforLife1]

More on the ventilator fake news fabricated by the ny times.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Now the guy at Imperial College, who originally said that 2 million Americans would die, is saying there will be relatively few deaths and it will peak in 2-3 weeks.

that is not at all what he (“the guy” referenced above) is saying

 

[kaz36_rivals189319]

Yep. Put a zero on the end of that 74k number and you're probably WAY closer to actual number of cases than 74k is.

I tend to agree with this. My wife had some of the same symptoms a couple months ago before we knew about all of this. She could have had it and not known. A friend of hers was describing to her the other day how she had a nasty cold and lost her sense of taste and smell a few weeks ago. My wife told her that she had just seen on TV that was a symptom of the CV. There are probably a lot of people who have had it and don’t realize it. I know of two people who have shown symptoms and have been quarantined but never tested. Those don’t show in confirmed numbers.

 

[jrhuskerdad_rivals491985]

There is no shortage of ventilators. Dr. Brix addressed that today. New York has at least 1000-2000 ventilators available that are not being utilized, according to NY health officials.

So I presume Trump is calling off their production then?

 

[Lincoln100]

This makes a lot of sense I think the biggest difference is that we have someone in the White House who has been documented since the early 70s as being racist. Stephen Miller is also a huge influence when it comes to messaging. This unchecked jackassery gives quite a few people that maybe would have kept their hate to themselves a signal to fire away with hate speech

Explain all of the documented information proving him to be racist.

 

[kerpal_68]

Here is a local story of a family that got it and shows how skewed the US numbers really are especially in Nebraska. http://www.myknoxcountynews.com/news/article_bb6960c6-6ef9-11ea-b2ff-83408ac5b93d.html .

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

You sound like a 4 year old. But mom, they did it too!

I have since deleted that post because it isn't worth it. Stay safe and have a great day.

 

[Charlie Marlow_rivals363743]

Boris Johnson has it now

 

[Ewooc]

Any reason why a country like India, with a population of 1.3 Billion only has 700 cases?