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This affects so many people, in so many ways. I live with someone who has been tested; we are awaiting results. We have been told it could take 2 to 10 days to get the results. Per my company's policy, I need to stay home until the results are known; I work eldercare and this is critical. But all is well. I have a part-time job that is all computer that I already do at home. And that company ( also healthcare related) reached out to me this morning and wants me to take on some additional assignments for tracking related to Covid-19. I am going to keep the TV off....keep working and making money from my part-time " at home" job.....and count my blessings.
 

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Is this a credible success story? As of March 11, 2020, New York had 215 positive cases and Washington had 337. As of yesterday, New York had 30,811 and Washington 2,580. That sounds like a success story in Washington to me.
You see, since some think government is totally responsible for this, and their actions control all thats happening, well, the problem is, the virus didn't vote for either 'side'. To the virus, we're just food.
 

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I see individuals on this board constantly calling Covid-19 a hoax, comparing this to the flu or even the common cold and telling anyone that will listen to ignore social distancing and go about your lives, like nothing is happening. Is that doing anyone any good?

Same could be said about only sharing the doom and gloom and the less than 1% of bad **** that happens. It's a message board and you are going to get both sides.
 

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I see individuals on this board constantly calling Covid-19 a hoax, comparing this to the flu or even the common cold and telling anyone that will listen to ignore social distancing and go about your lives, like nothing is happening. Is that doing anyone any good?

Not following the rules is one thing. Constantly pushing fear porn and rooting for our administration, country and economy to tank to achieve a different result come November is entirely different.

If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Here is a story in LA times as far as Washington they have some testing sites up but very few

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-19/coronavirus-patients-not-tested-not-counted

That article is a week old, and didn't say they stopped testing. Rather, they were using the tests on those who were older or at higher-risk. Since then, more labs have come online and the number tested in California has gone from 8,000 to 70,000. They also have conducted 49,000 additional tests where the results are still pending and should be known in the next few days.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-033.aspx
 
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Not following the rules is one thing. Constantly pushing fear porn and rooting for our administration, country and economy to tank to achieve a different result come November is entirely different.

If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.
One is putting lives in danger, by flat our lying and spreading misinformation. The other, you fear, hurts your chosen political party.
 

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Last time I checked, colds werent sending 10% of the people who got them to the hospital, which most are intubated for two to three weeks, where 2% of them then die, and its weeks ot more for the lungs to recover.

Those percentages will come down once the actual number of infected people is determined (if ever). Right now, the testing has been slanted to the more extreme symptomatic people. The number of asymptomatic/mild symptomatic people that haven't been tested is probably a rather large number. I have no scientific data to back that up, just logic/conjecture, so take that for what it's worth.
 

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Those percentages will come down once the actual number of infected people is determined (if ever). Right now, the testing has been slanted to the more extreme symptomatic people. The number of asymptomatic/mild symptomatic people that haven't been tested is probably a rather large number. I have no scientific data to back that up, just logic/conjecture, so take that for what it's worth.
I agree. But calling this the cold is still beyond ridiculous.
 

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Not following the rules is one thing. Constantly pushing fear porn and rooting for our administration, country and economy to tank to achieve a different result come November is entirely different.

If you can't see the difference, I don't know what to tell you.

This is a typical response to criticism. Only the most extreme leftists or anarchists are hoping for the president to fail...many people hate Trump, left and right...I have a number of Republican friends who voted for him but hate him because he is an adulterer, exploiter, liar, manipulator, irreverent among other things. I am smart enough to know that great leaders are often VERY flawed in in their social lives, that how they treat their wife, or whether they eat meat, or drink a bunch has no bearing on how they will lead 350 million people in a crisis. So I am hoping that he does well for the sake of thousands and millions, I would gladly vote republican for the first time in November if he lead us through this crisis in what experts deem a responsible and enlightened way. Trumps persona though keeps him from dealing with this in the best manner..he can't be vulnerable, he can't care about lives more than business. I bet deep down he is deeply disturbed by what is going on, but he has built his entire administration on never admitting failure, or a misstep and keeping the appearance the he is in control of everything. Sadly this doesn't work in a major generational crisis. For our sake we have to hope the UNITED STATES are stronger than Washington.
 

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The "doom and gloomers" will do less damage than the "this is only a cold or flu people will" Both sides are wrong but I personally would rather all of us error on the side of caution rather than believing we are invincible!
 

yort2000

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I agree. But calling this the cold is still beyond ridiculous.

It is a cold, maybe not the common cold, but a cold none the less. It is a viral infection to the upper respiratory tract in which the symptoms are mostly due to the body's immune response to the infection rather than tissue damage caused by the virus itself.
 

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That article is a week old, and didn't say they stopped testing. Rather, they were using the tests on those who were older or at higher-risk. Since then, more labs have come online and the number tested in California has gone from 8,000 to 70,000. They also have conducted 49,000 additional tests where the results are still pending and should be known in the next few days.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA/Pages/NR20-033.aspx
i stand corrected hopefully you are right but somehow I do not see california doing well especially with the amount of homeless

Also looks like vast majority of tests have been down since Monday
Newsom reported that as of Tuesday, 66,800 tests for the novel coronavirus have been conducted in California. It’s a massive increase of 39,200 since Monday,

48000 of these tests are still pending California's numbers are going to go up very dramatically
 
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Somewhat good news. Fauci says today that we have to develop a vaccine as quickly as possible because he thinks this will become seasonal. Hopefully he knows how much more quickly it can and should be done than the FDA's protocols call for.
 

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It is a cold, maybe not the common cold, but a cold none the less. It is a viral infection to the upper respiratory tract in which the symptoms are mostly due to the body's immune response to the infection rather than tissue damage caused by the virus itself.
You believe all viruses are the common cold, or that all viruses are same thing? Sometimes the ignorance on here is shocking.
 

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Yep. If you have ever watched someone close to you suffer from that kind of deterioration, you're burying your head in the sand if you're denying it.

And that's not coming from a "political" standpoint. I was (and still am) holding out hope for an alternative to voting for Trump. But it won't be Biden, unless his VP pick is 100% capable of running the country effectively as a non-elected president.
I held my nose and voted for Trump. Given that the Dems' ran off Tulsi Gabbard I'll probably have to do it again.
 

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Just mainly restaurants and bars at this point. Most people are scared shitless so they're doing the right thing I think. I won't be surprised if Omaha goes shelter in place this next week but most people are already doing that to large degree. It helps immensely that people are aware and mostly taking heed.
The scary thing about Nebraska is in 1918 the schools shutdown in October but the wave didn't actually hit nebraska until 1919...my grandpa got "le grippe" in the spring of 1919 and they think his parkinson's was tied to the nerve damage he got from the virus. Nebraska is going to have to be really smart about this...fortunately the summer will make it easier...but it is going to take a lot of foresight to do the right thing in the fall. I imagine we will start school in the fall at some point but then have a hard stop button once cases start to rise...I do think the virus will "slow" in the summer as 90% of all infections have occurred at temperatures between 20-50 F. This might be caused by lack of people or testing in the southern hemisphere but everything we know about respiratory viruses tell us they are much less potent in the heat and humidity, not extinct.
 

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It is becoming very apparent how much China lied about the infection and how responsible they are for all this misery.

  • They are reporting 81,000 affect - US is now reporting 75,000 affected - they show 56 cases/million US shows 227/million - Their population is much more densely packed - the virus because of a coverup spread unchecked for a longer time. They do have the benefit of arresting people and beating them up but still I think their infected rate would be higher than the US - even if equal that would mean 1, 625,000 infected
  • They are reporting 2 deaths per million of pop - The US is at 3 and will climb - This number is a joke at the very least they are at a level of Italy ( I believe they are much higher) but at Italy numbers they would have over 200,000 dead
These very evil people have unleashed hell on earth. If the world had know the real numbers much more drastic steps would have been taken immediately to quarantine China and get their people ready for the coming storm

China owns this virus - I will be looking at the bottom of everything I buy from this point forward to see where it is made

The China communist party was responsible for 50 million deaths in the 20th century, they were solely responsible for supplying arms and troops to the North Vietnamese in Vietnam, and Chinese troops defeated American troops in North Korea in the Korean War....you are just getting that the regime is dishonest and an adversary to the U.S? We fell for the age old trap of sharing technology and our nation's wealth so a few billionaires could get exceptionally rich by using china for cheap labor. That cheap labor has given us mostly useless entertainment materials while they have grown exponentially and can now rival us...their party will eventually be their undoing but for now it has been a quick equalizer.
 

yort2000

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You believe all viruses are the common cold, or that all viruses are same thing? Sometimes the ignorance on here is shocking.

Did I say all viruses are the same thing? This virus can be categorized the same as the numerous other cold viruses, because it infects the upper respiratory tract, the virus itself doesn't really do any damage, and it is the body's response to the virus that causes the damage. Those are the facts. Do you have facts that differ from that?
 

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Now the guy at Imperial College, who originally said that 2 million Americans would die, is saying there will be relatively few deaths and it will peak in 2-3 weeks.


As I type this, the US stands at 74,573 cases and 1107 deaths. So a death rate of 1.4%. With our shortage of tests, the percentage would presumably be lower if everyone was tested, but....we are also only about 3 weeks into this, so the death rate still could go up.

Roughly 327 million people in this country, 1.4% is 4.5 million. Even if we went with the estimate that was going around that 56% of the population (183 million) would get the virus, that's still 2.56 million.

Death rates in other countries:

Italy- 10%
Spain- 7.37%
Iran 7.59%
France 5.27%

If no precautions were taking place I've felt 2 million was easily attainable. We have precautions in place, and it isn't slowing.
 

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As I type this, the US stands at 74,573 cases and 1107 deaths. So a death rate of 1.4%. With our shortage of tests, the percentage would presumably be lower if everyone was tested, but....we are also only about 3 weeks into this, so the death rate still could go up.

Roughly 327 million people in this country, 1.4% is 4.5 million. Even if we went with the estimate that was going around that 56% of the population (183 million) would get the virus, that's still 2.56 million.

Death rates in other countries:

Italy- 10%
Spain- 7.37%
Iran 7.59%
France 5.27%

If no precautions were taking place I've felt 2 million was easily attainable. We have precautions in place, and it isn't slowing.
Dam common cold.
 

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As I type this, the US stands at 74,573 cases and 1107 deaths. So a death rate of 1.4%. With our shortage of tests, the percentage would presumably be lower if everyone was tested, but....we are also only about 3 weeks into this, so the death rate still could go up.

Roughly 327 million people in this country, 1.4% is 4.5 million. Even if we went with the estimate that was going around that 56% of the population (183 million) would get the virus, that's still 2.56 million.

Death rates in other countries:

Italy- 10%
Spain- 7.37%
Iran 7.59%
France 5.27%

If no precautions were taking place I've felt 2 million was easily attainable. We have precautions in place, and it isn't slowing.
We're early on and it doesn't appear to be slowing because we just now really got rolling with testing. In fact the Surgeon General AND Cuomo said it appears that they may be peaking earlier in New York than they first thought. Give the things being done a chance to work. I'm pretty confident that this thing will get slowed down. Not stopped but slowed down tremendously and that will save thousands of lives. Places like New Orleans, Houston and Dallas were doing virutually nothing to stop spread so they're going to be 3 weeks down the road probably before they peak then start to fall off. Cases testing positive now are reflective of what was going on 10 days or more ago.
 

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As I type this, the US stands at 74,573 cases and 1107 deaths. So a death rate of 1.4%. With our shortage of tests, the percentage would presumably be lower if everyone was tested, but....we are also only about 3 weeks into this, so the death rate still could go up.

Roughly 327 million people in this country, 1.4% is 4.5 million. Even if we went with the estimate that was going around that 56% of the population (183 million) would get the virus, that's still 2.56 million.

Death rates in other countries:

Italy- 10%
Spain- 7.37%
Iran 7.59%
France 5.27%

If no precautions were taking place I've felt 2 million was easily attainable. We have precautions in place, and it isn't slowing.

Stop basing your numbers off of these confirmed cases. Those are not accurate. Do you really think that there have only been 74K cases in the US? I'd guess that number is minimum 500K for our population size. That alone puts the death rate at .2%. You can do the math from there. This is the problem right now is numbers are just being run off of what we have tested. Wait for the dust to settle a little before you fear monger. There are plenty of people way more educated on this subject than you and I are starting to come out and say our numbers are way higher the death rate a could potentially be substantially lower. This is scary because it is new, seems to spread fast and can wipe the floor with the elderly and the very sick, but pump the breaks.
 

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As I type this, the US stands at 74,573 cases and 1107 deaths. So a death rate of 1.4%. With our shortage of tests, the percentage would presumably be lower if everyone was tested, but....we are also only about 3 weeks into this, so the death rate still could go up.

Roughly 327 million people in this country, 1.4% is 4.5 million. Even if we went with the estimate that was going around that 56% of the population (183 million) would get the virus, that's still 2.56 million.

Death rates in other countries:

Italy- 10%
Spain- 7.37%
Iran 7.59%
France 5.27%

If no precautions were taking place I've felt 2 million was easily attainable. We have precautions in place, and it isn't slowing.

You really think 2mil are going to die from this in the US??
 

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As I type this, the US stands at 74,573 cases and 1107 deaths. So a death rate of 1.4%. With our shortage of tests, the percentage would presumably be lower if everyone was tested, but....we are also only about 3 weeks into this, so the death rate still could go up.

Roughly 327 million people in this country, 1.4% is 4.5 million. Even if we went with the estimate that was going around that 56% of the population (183 million) would get the virus, that's still 2.56 million.

Death rates in other countries:

Italy- 10%
Spain- 7.37%
Iran 7.59%
France 5.27%

If no precautions were taking place I've felt 2 million was easily attainable. We have precautions in place, and it isn't slowing.


1. How do we know it has only been around 3 weeks?
2. Going from 0-60 in testing, of course the numbers are going to ramp since literally no one was tested 3 weeks ago. There is no way of determining the contagion rate, this ramp is just the testing rate.
3. Why don't you have Germany or S. Korea in your death rate numbers?
 

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We're early on and it doesn't appear to be slowing because we just now really got rolling with testing. In fact the Surgeon General AND Cuomo said it appears that they may be peaking earlier in New York than they first thought. Give the things being done a chance to work. I'm pretty confident that this thing will get slowed down. Not stopped but slowed down tremendously and that will save thousands of lives. Places like New Orleans, Houston and Dallas were doing virutually nothing to stop spread so they're going to be 3 weeks down the road probably before they peak then start to fall off. Cases testing positive now are reflective of what was going on 10 days or more ago.
If there is one saving grace of our liberal deceitful media in this country - It that they are making a fortune sensationalizing this this - They have everyone scared shitless except the drunk college student to the point where they are staying home.

Not coming in contact with infected people is the only thing slowing this
 

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We're early on and it doesn't appear to be slowing because we just now really got rolling with testing. In fact the Surgeon General AND Cuomo said it appears that they may be peaking earlier in New York than they first thought. Give the things being done a chance to work. I'm pretty confident that this thing will get slowed down. Not stopped but slowed down tremendously and that will save thousands of lives. Places like New Orleans, Houston and Dallas were doing virutually nothing to stop spread so they're going to be 3 weeks down the road probably before they peak then start to fall off. Cases testing positive now are reflective of what was going on 10 days or more ago.

JMHO we have to get rolling with testing and fast IMHO here. I know people who were "clinically diagnosed" and told to quarantine at home, but has never been tested. Last I knew, Nebraska was the 38th most populated state, but there are only 6 states with less "confirmed cases" than Nebraska. Nebraska 1.9 million people, Iowa 3.1 million people. Nebraska 68 confirmed cases, Iowa 179? Those numbers don't sound proportional.

IMHO Nebraska's numbers due to lack of testing is creating a potential false sense of security.
 

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As I type this, the US stands at 74,573 cases and 1107 deaths. So a death rate of 1.4%. With our shortage of tests, the percentage would presumably be lower if everyone was tested, but....we are also only about 3 weeks into this, so the death rate still could go up.

Roughly 327 million people in this country, 1.4% is 4.5 million. Even if we went with the estimate that was going around that 56% of the population (183 million) would get the virus, that's still 2.56 million. Cuomo even said today that quarantining everybody probably wasn't the best strategy, and he expects many younger people to return to work soon.

Death rates in other countries:

Italy- 10%
Spain- 7.37%
Iran 7.59%
France 5.27%

If no precautions were taking place I've felt 2 million was easily attainable. We have precautions in place, and it isn't slowing.

Again, NYC is not representative of the entire U.S. Even Dr. Fauci and Governor Cuomo are saying not to treat every area of the country like New York City.

 

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1. How do we know it has only been around 3 weeks?
2. Going from 0-60 in testing, of course the numbers are going to ramp since literally no one was tested 3 weeks ago. There is no way of determining the contagion rate, this ramp is just the testing rate.
3. Why don't you have Germany or S. Korea in your death rate numbers?

1. Because we have all been pretty much stuck at home with preventative measures for about 3 weeks. Duh.

2. No kidding, that's why I just put the rates from the available numbers at the exact moment I was typing.

3. Why didn't I put those countries? How many did you want me to put? It's 4.5% for the whole world does that make you feel better? My point was as I noted, IF NO PREVENTATIVE MEASURES WERE BEING TAKEN.
 

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Again, NYC is not representative of the entire U.S. Even Dr. Fauci and Governor Cuomo are saying not to treat every area of the country like New York City.


And would NYC be a pretty good representation with its close density as to what could happen with no precautions being taken? Hmm. Did you also fail to read the last sentence of my post?
 

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Stop basing your numbers off of these confirmed cases. Those are not accurate. Do you really think that there have only been 74K cases in the US? I'd guess that number is minimum 500K for our population size. That alone puts the death rate at .2%. You can do the math from there. This is the problem right now is numbers are just being run off of what we have tested. Wait for the dust to settle a little before you fear monger. There are plenty of people way more educated on this subject than you and I are starting to come out and say our numbers are way higher the death rate a could potentially be substantially lower. This is scary because it is new, seems to spread fast and can wipe the floor with the elderly and the very sick, but pump the breaks.

Did I or did I not state that in my post?
 
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