Miles will stay

[HuskerDana_rivals188993]

very indifferent on that. has fan support been better since Miles has been here? better facilities yes but fan support idk

also, the big 10 top to bottom this year was a lot better league than 2010 big 12. a Doc team would not go 18-16 in the big 10 this year

Ahhhhhh, but they didn't finish 18-16 in the Big 10. They finished 6-14, as evidenced by their 13 seed in the BIG Tournament. I am sure you already new that, though. It is just that the latter record just doesn't quite fit your agenda.

Congratulations to Tim and the team on a win over the 12 seed and a gutsy performance to come back the next day with a win over a very good Maryland team. I will also give the team the credit that they deserve irt the effort they put forth in a loss today.

Tim also needs to own the transfers, only making the Tournament once, a losing conference over seven years, no tournament wins, and around a .500 win percentage overall.

Your argument to keep Tim on is laughable, at best. You are either a really bad troll, a relative of Tim, or completely delusional.

 

[Mack In Motion]

The best part about not being able to keep a big on the roster is when your results suck all the time, people can offer up the excuse "he just needs a big".

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

I think it's strange to hold off on an announcement until after the NIT. If he's staying, say so. If he's done, say so. Nothing's going to change based on the NIT.

Moos has always said, no matter the sport, he doesn't fire coaches until the season is over.....publicly. The"evaluation process isn't over, technically. That doesn't mean he hasn't made his decision and doesn't have the next head coach waiting in the wings. I doubt it. But I bet he's been in touch with and has his top 5 guys in line. Or at least their agents.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Gotta find a big.

Agreed. But almost every other team has one. Why is that.

I totally agree and I have been chastised for saying that on here for years. That's on the coach imo.

 

[JohnRossEwing]

Why does the Big Ten Network work so hard at supporting lame duck coaches? I couldn't believe Katz said what he did about how Miles should remain the Husker coach because he is such a high character guy and the Huskers have never been and never will be a basketball powerhouse. Katz reminded me of when Big Ten Network's Gary DiNardo passionately called for Riley to keep his job. The same old high character stuff. Makes you wonder if the Big Ten would just as soon see Nebraska not do well in the two biggest sports.

Coaches almost always back coaches.

For Katz, he is working for a company that is literally only covering the Big Ten, you sort of have to make sure that you play the part.

 

[slwags_rivals53212]

Most people thought we were on the bubble last year and we weren’t In fact if I remember we were one of the last 3-4 at large teams to make the NIT.

 

[spinner4_rivals42045]

Why does the Big Ten Network work so hard at supporting lame duck coaches? I couldn't believe Katz said what he did about how Miles should remain the Husker coach because he is such a high character guy and the Huskers have never been and never will be a basketball powerhouse. Katz reminded me of when Big Ten Network's Gary DiNardo passionately called for Riley to keep his job. The same old high character stuff. Makes you wonder if the Big Ten would just as soon see Nebraska not do well in the two biggest sports.

Coaches like Riley and Miles are a journalist dream coach. Nice guys that answer questions with no resistance and don’t require a lot of work cause their teams suck. My wife’s cousin is the main beat writer for a power 5 school, he drunkly told me last year at the family Xmas party that he loves it when the school he covers sucks. He said the amount of time he has to write about them and covers them drops dramatically.

Anyone saying NU should keep a coach because he’s a nice guy and they we will never be good needs to see a psychologist. If that’s the way you think, something isn’t right with your esteem. Could you imagine where Wisconsin football would be if they had they same mindset before they fired the guy that Barry Alvarez replaced.

If Moos has a mind set that “Miles is a nice guy and our basketball team is never going to be great, so let’s just keep Tim” then he needs to give Tim a lifetime contract and tell fans “we are not trying to be a good program, so come to the games or don’t. But don’t expect much from this team” . Seriously, if that’s his mindset, Moos is awful at his job

 

[spinner4_rivals42045]

Can someone define what Katz means when saying “Miles does it right”. I have no Idea what the hell that even means. Tim has a .500 over all record, .400 in conference. Has had a ton of kids transfer out of NU. What the hell does doing it right mean? That he doesn’t cheat? Is that all it takes? Is that the standard in today’s workforce?

If so, I can put a crew together and we won’t cheat. I promise. Hire us. We will take half the salary

 

[schuele]

Can someone define what Katz means when saying “Miles does it right”. I have no Idea what the hell that even means. Tim has a .500 over all record, .400 in conference. Has had a ton of kids transfer out of NU. What the hell does doing it right mean? That he doesn’t cheat? Is that all it takes? Is that the standard in today’s workforce?

If so, I can put a crew together and we won’t cheat. I promise. Hire us. We will take half the salary

Katz is one of those stooges who will kiss Miles's butt for running a clean program, but will never, ever advocate getting rid of any of the cheaters. That way he can stay on the good side of every coach whether they cheat or not.

If Miles is "doing it the right way" but can't win because of the cheats and criminals - then get rid of the cheats and criminals! But don't expect NU to keep Miles forever and play the part of the Washington Generals year after year after year.

 

[ZaneHickey]

Agreed. But almost every other team has one. Why is that.

I totally agree and I have been chastised for saying that on here for years. That's on the coach imo.

I have no idea why most other teams have a serviceable and fairly athletic big man and we don't. When outside shooting is cold, gotta pound it inside the paint. A legit post, along with Roby (high-low post action, on occasion) would be a tough combo.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

I have no idea why most other teams have a serviceable and fairly athletic big man and we don't. When outside shooting is cold, gotta pound it inside the paint. A legit post, along with Roby (high-low post action, on occasion) would be a tough combo.

And why is that so hard. I've heard so many times"there aren't that many true post/center type players. Could be. But like you said, why does everyone else seem to have one? I seriously don't think we valued the position and didn't emphasize the recruiting of the position. That irritates me and baffled.

 

[ZaneHickey]

And why is that so hard. I've heard so many times"there aren't that many true post/center type players. Could be. But like you said, why does everyone else seem to have one? I seriously don't think we valued the position and didn't emphasize the recruiting of the position. That irritates me and baffled.

Will never understand ... even if said guy is a specialist only in defense, rebounding and put-backs. That would be delightful to see.

 

[Harry Caray]

I have no idea why most other teams have a serviceable and fairly athletic big man and we don't. When outside shooting is cold, gotta pound it inside the paint. A legit post, along with Roby (high-low post action, on occasion) would be a tough combo.

Somehow Craig Smith was able to find an athletic 6'11 dude last year after he got hired at Utah State and convinced him to come play in the middle of nowhere BFE Utah in a mid-major conference. If we had a guy like this, the season would have been much different:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4397424

 

[TravisWalker]

BB Lol. Football is all that matters.

 

[Bloody Run Hawk]

Miles sucks man. Get over it. And the B1G isn’t some power conference like you draw it up in your head to be. Outside of the state of Michigan, this conference is pretty weak.

One title in 19 freaking years. The Big 8 was a much better conference in the 90s then this crap and NU did much better in it then Miles ever did

The big ten the most final four appearances since the year 2000 with 12. The big 12 has 7 appearances. The big just can't quite get over the hump in the championship game.

 

[EATAFAT1]

Can someone define what Katz means when saying “Miles does it right”. I have no Idea what the hell that even means. Tim has a .500 over all record, .400 in conference. Has had a ton of kids transfer out of NU. What the hell does doing it right mean? That he doesn’t cheat? Is that all it takes? Is that the standard in today’s workforce?

Perhaps its the elegant way he faceplants after a sincere wave.

 

[ZaneHickey]

Somehow Craig Smith was able to find an athletic 6'11 dude last year after he got hired at Utah State and convinced him to come play in the middle of nowhere BFE Utah in a mid-major conference. If we had a guy like this, the season would have been much different:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4397424

Dreamy.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

Can someone define what Katz means when saying “Miles does it right”. I have no Idea what the hell that even means. Tim has a .500 over all record, .400 in conference. Has had a ton of kids transfer out of NU. What the hell does doing it right mean? That he doesn’t cheat? Is that all it takes? Is that the standard in today’s workforce?

If so, I can put a crew together and we won’t cheat. I promise. Hire us. We will take half the salary

Katz was basically saying Nebraska sucks and will always suck because Nebraska doesn't produce basketball talent so don't even bother trying to be good and keep his best buddy Tim Miles.

 

[red scowl]

Not that it matters, but we are going to get killed by the national media if we fire Miles. Katz summed it up...”Miles is high ethics, high character that ran a clean program, Nebraska will never be a power basketball school and Nebraska should know who they are.” That’s the reality of what we are perceived to be.

Bah! I don't understand this mindset. Katz... don't care. We cannot have a team that regularly is in the big dance? That is a fallacy.

Look at your bracket when you fill it out. Look at the schools. Bah!

 

[schuele]

Can someone define what Katz means when saying “Miles does it right”. I have no Idea what the hell that even means. Tim has a .500 over all record, .400 in conference. Has had a ton of kids transfer out of NU. What the hell does doing it right mean? That he doesn’t cheat? Is that all it takes? Is that the standard in today’s workforce?

If so, I can put a crew together and we won’t cheat. I promise. Hire us. We will take half the salary

Even if Katz's comment is based only on Miles running a clean program, it still rings hollow. Because give him 5 minutes, and Katz will have his nose squarely in the butt crack of a coach who's an off-the-charts heater.

 

[Shimmer003]

Bah! I don't understand this mindset. Katz... don't care. We cannot have a team that regularly is in the big dance? That is a fallacy.

Look at your bracket when you fill it out. Look at the schools. Bah!

It’s hard to be a bottom feeder in a good conference. You basically have to be a top 40 team to make the ncaa tournament to win enough games to make it. When you’re a never has been that is a graveyard of coaching careers in a state that has very little talent, the hill to get to where we want to be is pretty tall and steep. Those are facts. Every program has money these days so trying to “buy” a coach is even difficult. Not saying Nebraska can’t have success, just saying the deck is stacked against us.

 

[red scowl]

It’s hard to be a bottom feeder in a good conference. You basically have to be a top 40 team to make the ncaa tournament to win enough games to make it. When you’re a never has been that is a graveyard of coaching careers in a state that has very little talent, the hill to get to where we want to be is pretty tall and steep. Those are facts. Every program has money these days so trying to “buy” a coach is even difficult. Not saying Nebraska can’t have success, just saying the deck is stacked against us.

I would say Nebraska has never put much importance on winning at basketball. Population and recruiting is a detriment through out all sports. However, we have been successful.

 

[IowaHuskr]

Coaches almost always back coaches.

For Katz, he is working for a company that is literally only covering the Big Ten, you sort of have to make sure that you play the part.

Katz has been quoted as saying he likes Tim Miles because he will give Andy an interview anytime and anywhere Katz asks him. Unfortunately that doesn't translate into a consistently successful college basketball program. The BIG media has always loved him. Go back and check out his first conference media days in Chicago when he was first hired.

 

[HUSKERFAN66]

Katz was basically saying Nebraska sucks and will always suck because Nebraska doesn't produce basketball talent so don't even bother trying to be good and keep his best buddy Tim Miles.

Katz can go back and eat fish heads out of the garbage cans in the alley.

 

[Husker.Wed._rivals]

Katz can go back and eat fish heads out of the garbage cans in the alley.

There used to be a store on 20th and Vinton called Katz Market. It was one of the last mom and pops and got put out of business when Safeway opened a block away. He used to sell me cigarettes when I was 12 if I told him I was buying them for my mom. I wonder if he is a relation?

 

[JohnRossEwing]

There used to be a store on 20th and Vinton called Katz Market. It was one of the last mom and pops and got put out of business when Safeway opened a block away. He used to sell me cigarettes when I was 12 if I told him I was buying them for my mom. I wonder if he is a relation?

Haha! I remember years ago, me and a buddy had to get cigs for his Dad...His Dad wrote us a note saying it was okay because they were for him...It was some little grocery store...sure enough they sold it to us.

 

[Harry Caray]

Can someone define what Katz means when saying “Miles does it right”. I have no Idea what the hell that even means. Tim has a .500 over all record, .400 in conference. Has had a ton of kids transfer out of NU. What the hell does doing it right mean? That he doesn’t cheat? Is that all it takes? Is that the standard in today’s workforce?

If so, I can put a crew together and we won’t cheat. I promise. Hire us. We will take half the salary

Is there any coach in college basketball that gets more praise for accomplishing so little, than Tim Miles? Is there any other P5 Conference coach that gets so much praise despite never winning a single NCAA tournament game? Or even a single NIT game? When Miles was given a 7-year contract 7 years ago, with sparkling new facilities, I think everyone had the expectation we'd win an NCAA tournament game by Year 7. Or at least make the tournament more than once.

If the media thinks our fans our unrealistic - I know Iowa State fans that were ready to fire Prohm a week ago. Today he won his 2nd Big 12 championship in 3 years.

 

[cubsker_rivals142943]

can we hire prohm?

 

[huskerbaseball13]

When are we getting our “we were on the bubble trophy?”

I’m heading to 72nd and dodge to celebrate.

 

[dinglefritz]

Somehow Craig Smith was able to find an athletic 6'11 dude last year after he got hired at Utah State and convinced him to come play in the middle of nowhere BFE Utah in a mid-major conference. If we had a guy like this, the season would have been much different:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4397424

Miles got Jacobsen and Jordy to NU. IF Morrow, Jacobsen and Jordy had stayed, the past 2 seasons probably would have better outcomes. When a backup or troubled player leaves it's understandable. When you have starters transfer out who have to sit out a year, something isn't right. I'm fairly confident that is what is driving Moos's decision right now. We'll see. Morrow's exit doesn't sit well given his status as a legacy Husker athlete. Both Morrow and Jacobsen left for schools closer to home but man Jacobsen leaving was huge.

 

[Baxter48_rivals204143]

Miles got Jacobsen and Jordy to NU. IF Morrow, Jacobsen and Jordy had stayed, the past 2 seasons probably would have better outcomes. When a backup or troubled player leaves it's understandable. When you have starters transfer out who have to sit out a year, something isn't right. I'm fairly confident that is what is driving Moos's decision right now. We'll see. Morrow's exit doesn't sit well given his status as a legacy Husker athlete. Both Morrow and Jacobsen left for schools closer to home but man Jacobsen leaving was huge.

People like to look at star rankings, so seems to me Timmy has way underachieved, he's had more talent than any other Nebraska basketball coach since joe sip, except for possibly née.

 

[dinglefritz]

People like to look at star rankings, so seems to me Timmy has way underachieved, he's had more talent than any other Nebraska basketball coach since joe sip, except for possibly née.

He hasn't kept it around long enough and in fact has had terrible luck with injuries this year. That freshman guard would have helped immensely not to mention losing Cope. Granted though things were not going well before Cope got hurt but we could have turned that around I think. That said, there just seems to be a level of psychological dysfunction with Tim's teams.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Is there any coach in college basketball that gets more praise for accomplishing so little, than Tim Miles? Is there any other P5 Conference coach that gets so much praise despite never winning a single NCAA tournament game? Or even a single NIT game? When Miles was given a 7-year contract 7 years ago, with sparkling new facilities, I think everyone had the expectation we'd win an NCAA tournament game by Year 7. Or at least make the tournament more than once.

If the media thinks our fans our unrealistic - I know Iowa State fans that were ready to fire Prohm a week ago. Today he won his 2nd Big 12 championship in 3 years.

Obviously you havent read all of dingles "IF"s. If you had, youd know tim miles is a good coach, just a lot of "awww shucks" bad luck going on, and IFs....

 

[dinglefritz]

Obviously you havent read all of dingles "IF"s. If you had, youd know tim miles is a good coach, just a lot of "awww shucks" bad luck going on, and IFs....

Go stalk somebody else. Facts are facts chump. Injuries happened. Transfers happen. Maybe the transfers were Miles's fault. Maybe they weren't. IMO, the Jacobsen transfer and Copeland injury ultimately is what will lead to his demise.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Go stalk somebody else. Facts are facts chump. Injuries happened. Transfers happen. Maybe the transfers were Miles's fault. Maybe they weren't. IMO, the Jacobsen transfer and Copeland injury ultimately is what will lead to his demise.

Jacobsen sure got better after leaving, too.
Team sucked with cope.
Keep spoutin ifs and buts. Maybe theyll turn into candies and nuts.

 

[dinglefritz]

Jacobsen sure got better after leaving, too.
Team sucked with cope.
Keep spoutin ifs and buts. Maybe theyll turn into candies and nuts.

No Jacobsen is still what it was at NU. He's a rebounding machine and he still struggles from the field. Obviously he's 2 years older so he's gotten stronger and that helps because he still plays the 5 for ISU. The team sucked when all 3 guys struggled but with Cope normally either Palmer or Cope could carry us. We hit a bad patch there for a few games but I think we would have recovered without the Cope injury. Hell we recovered late even without him and Allen. We beat 2 tourney teams late without Copeland. Let that sink in for a minute before you post again.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

Jacobsen sure got better after leaving, too.
Team sucked with cope.
Keep spoutin ifs and buts. Maybe theyll turn into candies and nuts.

Let it go man. We won, Miles failed and is getting canned. I don't blame Dingle for his longtime support of Miles, differing opinions are good. Keeps this board interesting.

 

[huskerfan1414]

No Jacobsen is still what it was at NU. He's a rebounding machine and he still struggles from the field. Obviously he's 2 years older so he's gotten stronger and that helps because he still plays the 5 for ISU. The team sucked when all 3 guys struggled but with Cope normally either Palmer or Cope could carry us. We hit a bad patch there for a few games but I think we would have recovered without the Cope injury. Hell we recovered late even without him and Allen. We beat 2 tourney teams late without Copeland. Let that sink in for a minute before you post again.

Read your second to last sentence and apply it to yourself.

 

[huskerfan1414]

Let it go man. We won, Miles failed and is getting canned. I don't blame Dingle for his longtime support of Miles, differing opinions are good. Keeps this board interesting.

Ok so does my differing opinion count? Not sure I get your point.
This isnt life and death, its a hobby.

 

[TheNewNU_rivals50820]

Ok so does my differing opinion count? Not sure I get your point.
This isnt life and death, its a hobby.

Sure thing. Have at it then.